rec.autos.simulators

by **David Ciemn** » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:21:37

Hi all ..just a comment on the AI in gpl and N4. My comments are aimed at N4
but I will go after gpl while I am here. I did some offline time over the
the last few days and you can't race these things worth a darn. I think
Nascar heats AI are better. You try to pass or run some laps with them
(papy) they bump or take you out. It is not a test of your driving skill,
Ridiculous..there must be a better way to configure the AI cars.

Venting..

DC

by **Dave Henri** » Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:40:23

Every sim has spots on each track where humans pretty much must learn to
let the AI go...trial and error is the only way to find them. Heat took
a-lot of Heat for it's AI behaivior when it first was released. They have
been patching it for over a year now....
I agree the original N4 AI were especially *** if YOU made a mistake.
dave henrie

by **David Ciemn** » Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:54:31

Well said..Online play is a higher priority IMO..

DC

> The main problem with the AI model is that it hasn't changed in 5+
> years. Papy still uses one set of *.lp files to govern how every AI
> car drives, so you end up seeing cars behave identically around the
> track. This is especially noticeable when you wreck in front of a
> train of 10 cars and all 10 cars slow to a stop in perfect
> synchronization.

> Still a great sim mind you (and GPL too), I just wish more $$ was
> spent on improving all aspects of the game itself than on chasing down
> licensing agreements with drivers/sponsors.

> On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 04:21:37 GMT, "David Ciemny"

> >Hi all ..just a comment on the AI in gpl and N4. My comments are aimed at
N4
> >but I will go after gpl while I am here. I did some offline time over the
> >the last few days and you can't race these things worth a darn. I think
> >Nascar heats AI are better. You try to pass or run some laps with them
> >(papy) they bump or take you out. It is not a test of your driving skill,
> >Ridiculous..there must be a better way to configure the AI cars.

> >Venting..

> >DC

by **Don Burnett** » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 07:57:51

Personally I feal Heat's ai are way too arcadish, just shove em out of your
way and they are fine.
While I wish the collision detection was maybe a little more forgiving in
N4, I think their ai are way closer to realistic than Heat's.

Don Burnette

by **David Ciemn** » Fri, 12 Oct 2001 19:14:14

Don the patched version of the craftsmen truck series may have some
adjustments to the AI. Not sure though :o/

DC

> Personally I feal Heat's ai are way too arcadish, just shove em out of
your
> way and they are fine.
> While I wish the collision detection was maybe a little more forgiving in
> N4, I think their ai are way closer to realistic than Heat's.

> Don Burnette

> > Hi all ..just a comment on the AI in gpl and N4. My comments are aimed
at
> N4
> > but I will go after gpl while I am here. I did some offline time over
the
> > the last few days and you can't race these things worth a darn. I think
> > Nascar heats AI are better. You try to pass or run some laps with them
> > (papy) they bump or take you out. It is not a test of your driving
skill,
> > Ridiculous..there must be a better way to configure the AI cars.

> > Venting..

> > DC

rec.autos.simulators

Papy's AI STINK!

Papy's AI STINK!

Papy's AI STINK!

Papy's AI STINK!

Papy's AI STINK!

Papy's AI STINK!