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2 - Driving around Jan is an adventure.  Not because of his driving, I'd trust
him on my bumper all day.  Jan, I worry about driving near you because your car
keeps blinking out.  When the car in front of you at 180+mph disappears for up
to 3 seconds at a time, it doesn't do much for your mental health.  I was
always scared to make a move, and I suspect that's what also slowed up DGF and
JS.  I'd made it past you, but then got bogged down by Sean

After I got caught up in the wreck, my top speed was only 145mph.  I parked it,
rather than become an obstacle every 3-5 laps...  Grrr...
Maybe I should just park it for the rest of the season.  My accident-avoidance
skills don't seem to be as good as they used to be.  I keep getting caught in
other people's wrecks...sigh.

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2 - Driving around Jan is an adventure.  Not because of his driving, I'd trust
him on my bumper all day.  Jan, I worry about driving near you because your car
keeps blinking out.  When the car in front of you at 180+mph disappears for up
to 3 seconds at a time, it doesn't do much for your mental health.  I was
always scared to make a move, and I suspect that's what also slowed up DGF and
JS.  I'd made it past you, but then got bogged down by Sean

After I got caught up in the wreck, my top speed was only 145mph.  I parked it,
rather than become an obstacle every 3-5 laps...  Grrr...
Maybe I should just park it for the rest of the season.  My accident-avoidance
skills don't seem to be as good as they used to be.  I keep getting caught in
other people's wrecks...sigh.

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Larry

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As I've stated before, I don't race in RASCAR. That being said, I'm not sure
my opinion means one damn iota to you. However, I am going to give it.

My advice to you is not simply give up and quit. Judging from seeing several
racers in reality, I can attest that by only getting more seat-time will
your knowledge and reaction times get better. I don't want to put you down,
but getting caught up in other peoples wrecks is a two-fold deal. First,
there's a factor of luck. The second being your skills. You can control the
second. If you see warp in a online race, back off and/or take a different
line. A wreck? Slow down and/or get down in the grass if you have to. Real
drivers do it, and there's no embarassment if you or anyone else does.

Even the best drivers have bad days and bad streaks. You're not excluded.
Just pick up, apply what you've learned and go back out next week and try
your damnest to race cleanly and quickly.

If that doesn't help, then look at it this way: At least online, you're not
tearing up a $100+k machine AND you don't have to apologize to your
sponsors.

We're always gonna have problems with warp, until everyone has broadband.
It's just part of the game and can't be helped.

If you love racing, man, then I'd advise you to get back into your saddle.
I'm sure your fellow drivers wouldn't want to race without you.

BTW: Thank you for supporting these group of drivers. Without you, or them
without you, RASCAR wouldn't exist. I hope you get to understand that you're
part of a team, and you should have the driver and hosting/logistical
support of everyone who runs in the "league". Vice versa of that, as well.

-Will

I was leading that draft and there was no slowing for lap traffic, it just
wasn't possible without causing a chain reaction wreck. As long as everyone
held there line I did what you are supposed to do and drove around them. The
key is holding your line. Was a fun race until things went sour.(-:

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I bumped the wall coming out of turn four early on, and the top six
left me like I was sitting still.  The F9 display showed that I had
damage from the wall.  I saw a couple of people spin, but the sim
never threw a caution flag, so I asked if cautions were even on.

No, what slowed me up was that because he was blinking in and out,
the sim never could tell itself that we were in a drafting situation,
so I cruised around behind him for quite a while as if I was by
myself.

That wreck was partialy my fault. I had bumped Dave as we were coming
through turn 2, and I immediately backed off so I could turn in a
little more. Pete was trying to pass on the inside and clipped me.

I was eliminated. The motor was gone.

No Eldred.  You simply can't do that because you're in charge.  
There's an unwritten rule around here somewhere that says admins
can't quit racing simply because they think they're too slow or too
accident prone.

You didn't seem to benefit from cars drafting you, even when Bryan and
Eldred were directly behind you (and not warping), I was getting more help
from you, 3 carlenghts ahead, than you were getting from them.

That was a situation which, IMO, had no potential for going right in the
online environment. Had we been caught while up to speed, maybe, but with us
tripping over Sean there was no way that was going to remain incident free.

That motor damage stuff is bad karma, but it's also a powerfull deterrent
with regard to dumb moves. Mine was gone too, thanks to wonky connection and
slow reaction on my part.

Too right, everyone gets periods where one can't buy a break.

Jan.
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Indeed... if you show no indication of wanting to pass I can't let you go.
For the hint to be strong enough for you I'd have to slow too much, possibly
allowing drivers I don't want ahead or around me too close. You don't have
to hit me (please don't), but if you don't knock I can't open the door,
sorry.

RASCAR is now scheduled at an unfortunate time with regard to internet
conditions over here. Last night was terrible again... I actually had a few
clock smashes and cars winking out on my side. Most of the time though, it's
a one way deal. I.e. I can keep an eye on you guys. I can see what you're
doing the whole time and I'll make sure I don't involve you in anything. You
just gotta trust me and go for the move. If it's not the last few laps I
won't make a fuss, even if I'm not aware I'm warping.

Jan.
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Closing speed was indeed surprising... I thought I might make it around Sean
before we were run over, but suddenly they were there. Just kept it low, but
failed to spot the #31 when I wanted to move back up the racetrack... close
call there.

That was an exercise in frustration, true. I'd seen John ding the wall and
being shot out the back of the lead draft, as I was about to lose the
benefit as well I decided not to pass him and try to draft back up.

There were two problems with this strategy: 1) John, either through me
warping or damage he received (I think it's the latter because he didn't
seem to benifit much from having non-warping cars behind him either) wasn't
getting a benifit from me being behind him and 2) he wasn't working the
bottom of the racetrack.
As my connection was going through a really rough patch I didn't dare pass
because it would be too hard for him to follow me closely.
All the while the leaders were running at least 5mph faster than us, so
eventually, when having 3 cars behind John didn't seem to bring him any
benefit I decided to pass hoping you and Bryan would follow suit and I could
cycle around to the back.
You didn't and also failed to get some speed into John.
Then we got up to DGF and I kept behind him hoping I could boost his speed
enough for him to drop ahead of your train and lead. This didn't work either
 and put John back in the lead... <sigh>

Dave then proceded to try and draft John up passed you and, when that didn't
work, *finally* switched and drafted you up past John. Now we're cooking...
speeds are back up above 185mph at last and maybe we can stay on the lead
lap untill the leaders have to break up to pit. Then you go and trip over
Sean and leave me***.... aaargh!! >:-/

Also, when you get into a single file draft: WORK THE BOTTOM!! -There's
absolutely no need to use the whole track even if you're running 197mph.
Middle lane out of the tri-oval at worst.

And there's me thinking I'm the inexperienced superspeedway racer going into
this... sheesh!! ;-)

That's still 5mph faster than mine. I thought that was below safe minimum
speed too.

Don't be silly... it's just some bad luck. Besides, I'd have no-one to
race with ;-(

Jan.
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Larry

To be honest, I wasn't sure what was going on there. Things weren't being
done correctly.

David G Fisher

After about 10 laps or so, when Dave got persueded up into the wall I had to
brake to avoid both cars.  Because of this I lost the lead draft of which
there was about 5 or 6 of us and we were hauling ass and mowin' em down too.

I was all by myself for several laps until the second draft pack of about 4
cars caught me.  Of course they blew by me like I was standing still, but I
was able to snag onto the back of the draft with them.

I ran around with them at the tail of this pack for about 10 laps, and it
was driving me nuts.  We were dropping to like 185 in the corners, and we
were losing .5 to 1 second a lap to the lead pack.

This was when I asked if those guys were damaged.  I didn't get an answer,
so I don't know if they were or not.

I finally had enough, and though I would have prefered to just stay in line
and catch up to the lead draft, it wasn't gonna happen so I started passing
the other 4 cars.  I think I passed all of them in 1 lap.

From that point, with me in front of the pack, we stayed up to around 192 in
the corners and we stopped bleeding time off to the lead pack, and in fact
picked up a second or so before a yellow FINALLY came out (what was up with
that?  you couldn't buy a yellow that race) and everything was back to
normal.

-Larry

When the skirmish happened behind me (almost took me out), Mike was nice
enough to let me by at the line and I got my lap back.

Of course it all went down the drain for me later. :-)

Nice wins you've had lately.

David G Fisher