rec.autos.simulators

I also think we should make sure everyone has practiced, maybe set up a
practice race in this thread, and talk about some key do's and don'ts in the
race.

In some other threads people who I *know* are excellent drivers are finding
the fast setup to push badly in traffic and what's strange is I don't find
that at all. I'm starting to wonder if it isn't all controller related, and
how it's set up within N2003. It might explain why so many people have such
different views of the Jasper setups as well. I posted here
http://www.racesimcentral.net/;a 12 lap replay from a race I did
last night and I have no trouble holding the low line or the outside line in
as tight traffic as you can get (even a bit of the middle line at the end).
I used the low line to move to the front and then moved to the
outside to see how it felt, and I didn't find the fast setup to push me into
the wall at
all. For those who do find the fast setup to push, it's got to be how your
controller is set up, or how the game works with your controller IMO.

IMO, some key issues with the SS races are (no big surprises):

Take it easy on the first few laps until the tires warm up because it's
inevitable that cars will wash up in the turns and cause an accident on cold
tires if you push too hard for position. If you're on the oustide, give the
inside guy a LOT of room in the beginning of the race or after pit stops. If
you have to, *very, very* gently touch the
brake as you enter a turn in order to keep from washing up into someone. All
you have to do is barely kiss the brake to keep the car under control and on
the low line. Not enough for anyone behind you to even notice a change in
your speed.

It is *not* important to run at the front of the pack for the first two
thirds of the race so there's no need for risky passing and causing an
accident just to move from fourth to third on lap 22. If the field breaks
apart, the chasing field should *stay in line and work together* to catch up
or at least stay as close as possible. It's frustrating as hell to be in the
chase group and have people constantly fighting each other for a worthless
position which only breaks up the draft and slows the group down, while the
lead pack pulls away.

Simple stuff, but I'm always surprised at how much of it is forgotten by
people when I race on the SS tracks.

David G Fisher

    Pete

David G Fisher

I've run it on a couple of races online and until the guy dropped the temp
to 58 deg all was well.  Everyting went to ***after that, though :)

If it is a controller issue for some, I almost guarantee it is the
sensitivity setting.  The default setting is WAY too non-linear, which makes
the cars feel extremely goofy until you have the wheel turned like 3/4 of
the way around.  By that time, it kicks in, and the other end swaps around.

I run 100% linear, but I could understand some folks wanting to run 97 or so
to get an extra bit of 'loosness' into the wheel at the SS tracks.  To me,
the steering hasn't been right since N4 when they went to the ratio system
of GPL in the setups.  Even at 32:1 the steering is far to sensitive on SS
tracks.  For me to feel like the days of N3, I'd need probably 50:1
available :)  I think some try to imitate this by setting a large proportion
of non-linear into the steering sensitivy in the controller setup, and
that's really not a great way to go.  It's better to live with the
over-sensitive nature at these tracks.

Larry

    Pete

Hear, hear!  Superspeedway racing 101.

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ed_

Now we've added two more and inflamed the situation. Concealing weapons of mass
destruction is less controversial...

Cheers
Tony

David G Fisher

My concern is T4 after the tars wear a bit.  The low line may have to blip
the throttle or tap the brakes to keep from pushing into the outside line If
there even is an outside line.  In the pickups it's hold the bottom at all
costs just like previous versions.  That corner kinda reminds me of the
dog-leg at dega in N1.  You will meet in the middle if youre not careful :)

Mitch

There was a point behind the humour, though I am sure it will settle back
down. Getting the setup choice right for fixed setup racing for a mixed
ability group would seem a priority for those planning to race, hence
your original post.

Cheers
Tony

Give us a break Dave, the Europeans haven't even got the game yet. What are
we gonna say about driving Daytona in NR2003?

On top of that, personally, I'm not all that hot at Super Speedways. I've
only been comfortable once there, that was following Francois Menard around
in one of the early races.

Jan.
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I wish I had NR2003, so I could join you guys.  Alas, more things are
important these days for me.  Blasphemy, I know...

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Will that do?

In RASCAR I'd settle for that... <g>

Seriously, I think a large portion of the WC drivers would be more than
happy to tag along with an accomplished speedway racer for most of the 500
too.

There's time... the game's not going to get replaced in a hurry.

Jan.
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