rec.autos.simulators

> Kerry

> > Just got my 3d glasses last night. Plugged them in this morning, tried
em
> > out for approximately an hour.
> >       Set up went just fine. The drivers installed perfectly. The setup
> > screens  are added to your display properties sheets. ( Using Win98).
> > Leaving everything on default I entered N2002 and immediaely had to
adjust
> > the stereo seperation. There are two images that need to be merged in
> order
> > to provide an accurate representation of depth. I was seeing two tachs
> > spread pretty far apart. The stereo separation keys allow you to bring
the
> > images closer together. Fully merged gives the least depth perception
and
> > fully seperated is way too exagerated. You have to play with it to get a
> > comfortable perspective that doesn't hurt your eyes.
> >   Okay, got it set and went driving. It's 3d. You look out the window
net
> > and there is depth. You look out the windscreen and there is depth (
> though
> > I got the visual impression that the nose of my car ended about a foot
> from
> > the windscreen).  The tach hangs in the air in front of you, the speed
> > ticker floats as well. The rearview mirror looks like you can hang a
pair
> of
> > dice from it. Pretty cool.
> >   Okay, so I drove in heavy traffic to see if the perspective was real
or
> an
> > illusion that might cause wrecks. Daytona night, full field, starting at
> the
> > back. Drove the whole race in traffic, nose to tail, packed like
sardines
> > and never touched a soul. Drove Richmond, same.
> >    It takes a bit of an adjustment on the eyes. After about an hour I
got
> a
> > low grade headache so I adjusted the settings back to beginner. Could be
> > allergies so I'm not real sure yet.
> >    I run a 17 inch monitor, Geforce 2 mx400 on a P3 866, 256megs o' ram.
I
> > set the sim resolution to 640x480 ( I know) so I could use a 100 refresh
> > rate. Tell you what, the rez didn't bother me at all. 800x600 was okay
as

> > well. Using OpenGL my frame rates didn't seem affected significantly.
> Maybe
> > a 10 percent drop at most. Haven't tried D3D.
> >    Love the things so far. Haven't done GPL yet but will after work
> tonight.
> > More info to come.
> > Gavel

> I have these glasses as well now, very cool. With GPL it felt like you could
> actually reach out and grab the tail pipe of the car in front of you.

> Phillip

> > Where can you find info on these things?

> > Kerry

> > > Just got my 3d glasses last night. Plugged them in this morning, tried
>  em
> > > out for approximately an hour.
> > >       Set up went just fine. The drivers installed perfectly. The setup
> > > screens  are added to your display properties sheets. ( Using Win98).
> > > Leaving everything on default I entered N2002 and immediaely had to
>  adjust
> > > the stereo seperation. There are two images that need to be merged in
>  order
> > > to provide an accurate representation of depth. I was seeing two tachs
> > > spread pretty far apart. The stereo separation keys allow you to bring
>  the
> > > images closer together. Fully merged gives the least depth perception
>  and
> > > fully seperated is way too exagerated. You have to play with it to get a
> > > comfortable perspective that doesn't hurt your eyes.
> > >   Okay, got it set and went driving. It's 3d. You look out the window
>  net
> > > and there is depth. You look out the windscreen and there is depth (
>  though
> > > I got the visual impression that the nose of my car ended about a foot
>  from
> > > the windscreen).  The tach hangs in the air in front of you, the speed
> > > ticker floats as well. The rearview mirror looks like you can hang a
>  pair
>  of
> > > dice from it. Pretty cool.
> > >   Okay, so I drove in heavy traffic to see if the perspective was real
>  or
>  an
> > > illusion that might cause wrecks. Daytona night, full field, starting at
>  the
> > > back. Drove the whole race in traffic, nose to tail, packed like
>  sardines
> > > and never touched a soul. Drove Richmond, same.
> > >    It takes a bit of an adjustment on the eyes. After about an hour I
>  got
>  a
> > > low grade headache so I adjusted the settings back to beginner. Could be
> > > allergies so I'm not real sure yet.
> > >    I run a 17 inch monitor, Geforce 2 mx400 on a P3 866, 256megs o' ram.
>  I
> > > set the sim resolution to 640x480 ( I know) so I could use a 100 refresh
> > > rate. Tell you what, the rez didn't bother me at all. 800x600 was okay
>  as

> > > well. Using OpenGL my frame rates didn't seem affected significantly.
>  Maybe
> > > a 10 percent drop at most. Haven't tried D3D.
> > >    Love the things so far. Haven't done GPL yet but will after work
>  tonight.
> > > More info to come.
> > > Gavel

> > http://www.simracingworld.com/html/srw/hreviews/edimensional/ and there
> are
> > enough popups for sure <G>

> > I have these glasses as well now, very cool. With GPL it felt like you
> could
> > actually reach out and grab the tail pipe of the car in front of you.

> > Phillip

> I wonder about possible screen flicker. I can spot a monitor running at 60
> Hz by it's flickering, from 75 Hz onwards I'm fine. Since the refresh rate
> is divided among the left and right images, would I need something like
150
> Hz on the monitor to be comfortable? Or is it only the combined refresh
rate
> that counts?

> Bart Westra

> The articles about edimension glasses are impressive. But since Im
> soon going to buy geforce3/4 bundled with Asus 3D -glasses Id like to
> know how different these glasses really are. For what Ive read the
> glasses seem to use exact technique (And the Asus glasses are not so
> great Ive heard).

> If someone has a link to any comparisons between those two or other 3D
> -glasses and would be kind enought to submit the url I would
> appreciate it.

> Cheers,
> LM

> > A pair came with my Geforce 4 but when I try to run N2k in 3d it flickers so
> > bad it looks like a strobe light and thats at 120hz. I hear there is a bug
> > with geforce 4 and 3d glasses. I wish they would release the 28.32 stereo
> > drivers for the geforce 4.

> > I have these glasses as well now, very cool. With GPL it felt like you
>  could
> > actually reach out and grab the tail pipe of the car in front of you.

> > Phillip

> I wonder about possible screen flicker. I can spot a monitor running at 60
> Hz by it's flickering, from 75 Hz onwards I'm fine. Since the refresh rate
> is divided among the left and right images, would I need something like 150
> Hz on the monitor to be comfortable? Or is it only the combined refresh rate
> that counts?

> Bart Westra

> > The articles about edimension glasses are impressive. But since Im
> > soon going to buy geforce3/4 bundled with Asus 3D -glasses Id like to
> > know how different these glasses really are. For what Ive read the
> > glasses seem to use exact technique (And the Asus glasses are not so
> > great Ive heard).

> > If someone has a link to any comparisons between those two or other 3D
> > -glasses and would be kind enought to submit the url I would
> > appreciate it.

> > Cheers,
> > LM

> > > A pair came with my Geforce 4 but when I try to run N2k in 3d it
flickers so
> > > bad it looks like a strobe light and thats at 120hz. I hear there is a
bug
> > > with geforce 4 and 3d glasses. I wish they would release the 28.32
stereo
> > > drivers for the geforce 4.

> I actually asked about the difference as well.  From the information
> I've picked up browsing the edimensional reviews, sites have said
> there is no comparrison to other brands.  Besides the fact that the
> ASUS glasses look rather bulky and annoying, I've read in other
> newsgroups they just don't perform very well and are very flickering.
> I did a lot of homework on these glasses before I threw down my
> hundred bucks, so i'll try and pass along any information i have.  I
> know simhq.com has a review that said the edimensional glasses are
> better than the other brands and overclockersrip.com also said the
> ASUS ones were junk compared to these.  That and the very fast
> response from edimensioanl with answers to my questions pushed me over
> the edge.

> > > I have these glasses as well now, very cool. With GPL it felt like you
> >  could
> > > actually reach out and grab the tail pipe of the car in front of you.

> > > Phillip

> > I wonder about possible screen flicker. I can spot a monitor running at
60
> > Hz by it's flickering, from 75 Hz onwards I'm fine. Since the refresh
rate
> > is divided among the left and right images, would I need something like
150
> > Hz on the monitor to be comfortable? Or is it only the combined refresh
rate
> > that counts?

> > Bart Westra

> It actually doesn't split it totally in half, you should be fine if
> you can get a normal rate of at least 85Hz.  I use mine between 85Hz
> and 100 and it looks very clear with virtually no flicker at all,
> especially at 100hz.