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GPL on a Laptop...?

Art McEwe

GPL on a Laptop...?

by Art McEwe » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 02:56:00

My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard
D3D or 3DFX boards?    If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig
machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll?
Goy Larse

GPL on a Laptop...?

by Goy Larse » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:13:03


> My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard
> D3D or 3DFX boards?    If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig
> machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll?

1 ?

Either that or you will start using SPF instead...:-), seriously though,
I don't think you can expect too much from most of the "mobility"
chipsets, however, Toshiba has a model with the GeForce2GO (or
something) chipset, which is basically a 16 MB Geforce2 MX I believe,
I'm sure other brands have a model or two with this chip as well

Over here it's known as "Toshiba Satellite 3000-400", P3-900 with 128 MB
RAM, 14" TFT screen and an onboard CD-RW/DVD drive, nice toy if you have
the money for it, or have someone else foot the bill of course :-)

Beers and cheers
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Cliff Roma

GPL on a Laptop...?

by Cliff Roma » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 03:18:33

Some laptops have the Geforce2Go installed in them


<_>

GPL on a Laptop...?

by <_> » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 06:45:40


>Some laptops have the Geforce2Go installed in them

The latest ATi mobile chips are Radeon-based.

I got good performance in Half-Life (3D FPS game, pretty graphically
demanding) on a ThinkPad with Celeron 433 and ATi Rage Pro video.  That ATi
Rage was old tech even at that time.  A modern chipset will do *much*
better.

You shouldn't have trouble running GPL on a modern laptop with ATi Radeon
(can't remember the name for mobile Radeon) and the D3D patch.

You will notice that the relatively low redraw (not refresh) rate of a TFT
panel may smear some graphics.  TFT isn't great for fast movement and don't
even consider DSTN screens.

Dale.

Biz

GPL on a Laptop...?

by Biz » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 08:04:52

A fellow GPLemans'er....

Art, Noone to my knowledge has ever put 3dfx based chipsets on notebooks,
and if they did, it certainly isn't happening anymore since the demise of
3dfx.  There is really no such thing as a D3D based card, thats software
based, meaning any decent video card with good driver support will support
D3D.  The faster the card is and the more memory it has will help determine
how good an fps u can get, and notebooks are not known for good *** fps
due to lack of vid memory and slower power-saving chipset versions.  How the
heck r you going to cart around your wheel/pedal combo?

--
Biz

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alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash


Jeff Vince

GPL on a Laptop...?

by Jeff Vince » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 09:52:58

On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:56:00 -0400, "Art McEwen"


>My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard
>D3D or 3DFX boards?    If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig
>machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll?

   I've been kicking around a similar idea myself.  No 3Dfx, but check
out laptops with either the NVidia GeForce 2Go chip (preferred) or the
ATI Mobility Radeon for good D3D performance.  

   The Dell Inspiron 8100 looks particularly good for this.  P3-M
866MHz to 1.2GHz (w/133MHz bus), GeGorce 2Go 16 or 32meg, 256meg RAM,
1400x1050 or 1600x1200 res 14" or 15" screens, combo DVD/CD-RW, etc.
For around $2000 with a 1GHz and the lower res screen.  Check the
review at (and note the 95 FPS achieved in Quake III Arena):
http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,530581,00.html

   Comments?

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

BIG A

GPL on a Laptop...?

by BIG A » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 11:45:33

Dell Inspiron 8100
15" UXGA screen
P3 - 1 Ghz
32 meg Geforce2Go
256 meg SDRAM
20 gig HD

36 fps full detail 16 bit tracks and cars (where available) at 1024x768 . At
the back of the grid at Monaco it starts at 24 fps builds up to 36 quickly.
Very playable

As is GP3 and CMR2

Allan F. Cousin


> On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:56:00 -0400, "Art McEwen"

> >My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with onboard
> >D3D or 3DFX boards?    If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig
> >machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll?

>    I've been kicking around a similar idea myself.  No 3Dfx, but check
> out laptops with either the NVidia GeForce 2Go chip (preferred) or the
> ATI Mobility Radeon for good D3D performance.

>    The Dell Inspiron 8100 looks particularly good for this.  P3-M
> 866MHz to 1.2GHz (w/133MHz bus), GeGorce 2Go 16 or 32meg, 256meg RAM,
> 1400x1050 or 1600x1200 res 14" or 15" screens, combo DVD/CD-RW, etc.
> For around $2000 with a 1GHz and the lower res screen.  Check the
> review at (and note the 95 FPS achieved in Quake III Arena):
> http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,530581,00.html

>    Comments?

> "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Art McEwe

GPL on a Laptop...?

by Art McEwe » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 22:25:09

Beauty, Dell was on the short list already ;)


> Dell Inspiron 8100
> 15" UXGA screen
> P3 - 1 Ghz
> 32 meg Geforce2Go
> 256 meg SDRAM
> 20 gig HD

> 36 fps full detail 16 bit tracks and cars (where available) at 1024x768 .
At
> the back of the grid at Monaco it starts at 24 fps builds up to 36
quickly.
> Very playable

> As is GP3 and CMR2

> Allan F. Cousin



> > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:56:00 -0400, "Art McEwen"

> > >My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with
onboard
> > >D3D or 3DFX boards?    If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig
> > >machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll?

> >    I've been kicking around a similar idea myself.  No 3Dfx, but check
> > out laptops with either the NVidia GeForce 2Go chip (preferred) or the
> > ATI Mobility Radeon for good D3D performance.

> >    The Dell Inspiron 8100 looks particularly good for this.  P3-M
> > 866MHz to 1.2GHz (w/133MHz bus), GeGorce 2Go 16 or 32meg, 256meg RAM,
> > 1400x1050 or 1600x1200 res 14" or 15" screens, combo DVD/CD-RW, etc.
> > For around $2000 with a 1GHz and the lower res screen.  Check the
> > review at (and note the 95 FPS achieved in Quake III Arena):
> > http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,530581,00.html

> >    Comments?

> > "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
> > nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
> > a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Stephen Ferguso

GPL on a Laptop...?

by Stephen Ferguso » Sat, 20 Oct 2001 23:47:49

Consider also the Toshiba Satellite 3000.  It drops a good 2 lbs from the
weight of the Dell, is quite a bit slimmer.  The LCD panel is only XGA,
which means you lose some real estate for desktop work, but XGA would pretty
much be the sweet spot for games and the GeForce2Go.  Running the Dell UXGA
panel at XGA introduces some fuzziness.  Games will actually look crisper on
the XGA panel run at its native resolution.

A friend of mine in Canada just picked up a close-out Satellite, PIII-800 or
so, GeForce2Go, for $2400.

Stephen


> Beauty, Dell was on the short list already ;)



> > Dell Inspiron 8100
> > 15" UXGA screen
> > P3 - 1 Ghz
> > 32 meg Geforce2Go
> > 256 meg SDRAM
> > 20 gig HD

> > 36 fps full detail 16 bit tracks and cars (where available) at 1024x768
.
> At
> > the back of the grid at Monaco it starts at 24 fps builds up to 36
> quickly.
> > Very playable

> > As is GP3 and CMR2

> > Allan F. Cousin



> > > On Thu, 18 Oct 2001 13:56:00 -0400, "Art McEwen"

> > > >My office is buying me a new laptop, are there any out there with
> onboard
> > > >D3D or 3DFX boards?    If not, what frame rate can I expect on a 1Gig
> > > >machine with say an onboard ATI rage and software.dll?

> > >    I've been kicking around a similar idea myself.  No 3Dfx, but check
> > > out laptops with either the NVidia GeForce 2Go chip (preferred) or the
> > > ATI Mobility Radeon for good D3D performance.

> > >    The Dell Inspiron 8100 looks particularly good for this.  P3-M
> > > 866MHz to 1.2GHz (w/133MHz bus), GeGorce 2Go 16 or 32meg, 256meg RAM,
> > > 1400x1050 or 1600x1200 res 14" or 15" screens, combo DVD/CD-RW, etc.
> > > For around $2000 with a 1GHz and the lower res screen.  Check the
> > > review at (and note the 95 FPS achieved in Quake III Arena):

http://www.zdnet.com/supercenter/stories/overview/0,12069,530581,00.html

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