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Also, I have looked into every PLR file I can find (in the 'save' as well as
'saveRH02' folders) and I have the Antilock Brakes="0" setting there as
well.

So what's going on? ... I would really like to drive these things without
any ABS assistance ... why can't I switch OFF? If anyone can offer a
suggestion then I'd love to hear it.

ps. I take it that you guys CAN lock the brakes up?

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Also I just tested my calibration in Windows (in control panel -> joysticks)
and everything seems perfect. Everything is centered and pushing the pedals
all the way down utilises the whole 'test' window.

Though, good to hear that YOU can lock-up 'cos that means I should be able
to set it to do that here. Can you see if it's a 'real' lock-up where once
locked-up you can turn the wheel to either extreme and the car will just
plough straight. Does it do that?
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Joao Gonzalez

Jason

I will try it with ALL aids OFF. I wonder whether that means I need to
switch OFF the traction-control as all I have set is traction-control on
LOW and stability on HIGH. Everything else is OFF.

Thoguh, if that is the case then it will be annoying if I cannot have
traction control without ABS as that's the way I want to drive it and I
don't enjoy it that much with the traction control set to OFF (seems to
behave most realistically with the traction control on low IMHO).
Interstigly enough my enjoyment has lessened lately because I have the
ABS ON ... I would love to have this game the way I like it. Wonder why
it won't let me :-(

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hmmm, I like this better if it will work. I'll take a look and see if I
can turn it up to 100%.

So am I reading tyhis right? You can set it via the setup whether the ABS
is on/off or what effectiveness it has - correct? If I am reading it
correclty then setting the 'brake pressure' to less then 100% will
introduce some sort of ABS to the car.

I'm not sure if I like that 'feature' as it means that some people can be
driving with the ABS ON just by tunning their setups. So if someone
claims that they did that or that laptime with the 'aids' OFF then they
still could have had ABS :-(

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It's virtually impossible to lock up the wheels on an F1 car at high speed
due to the enormous downforce.  You'll notice that it's still possible to
lock them at low speed.  If not, you need to make sure that your pedals are
depressing fully.  Check the red bar in the joystick setup making sure it
goes all the way up.

Increasing the brake pressure makes the wheels lock up more readily but
unfortunately the option isn't available in the car setup screens.  The
setting is in the car setup save files (they're just text files) but I
highly recommend downloading the advanced setup menu addon available at
http://f12k2.relaygames.com

Cheers
Damien

P.S. The brakes on F1 cars are designed so that they don't exert so much
pressure as to lock them at high speeds.  The driver is able to jump on the
brakes fully and then only back off them as he enters the corner.

Thanks Damien, but what I had was that you could not lock the brakes up at
any speed or conditions - just like ABS in the car. I could come into a
corner slam the brakes and the car would spill follow an arc around a corner
instead of spearing straight of the track.

On advice from some of the earlier posters I started fiddling with the
'aids' options to see what effect they had (even though I already had ABS =
OFF). I managed to trace it down to the 'stability' option - if you have it
set on anything else but OFF then the ABS is ON as well (even though the
menu does not show it). It does not matter if you set the 'stability' on
'low' or 'high' as either option has got the ABS fully switched ON ... I
spent the last 2 hours trying it (and other option).

So I had to switch the stability to OFF and locking-up brakes is now easy
... seems like I'm locking up fairly often now and I'm happy with that as it
now comes up to me to brae late into corners. Though, I'm not happy with the
way the car/game feels with the 'stability' switched OFF as not touching the
ripple-strips is a game of pot-luck. By that I mean that I have no feedback
on when the car is going to step out when on the curbs ... sometimes it does
not and sometimes it takes me for a 360. I was not enjoying the game much
like this as I felt like there was no feedback at all and that I have no way
of learning to catch these spins ... all I can do is not touch the
ripple-strips or go slower. Neither option appeals to me.so I switched on
the 'opposite lock assist' and even though I have knowing that the game is
assisting my opposite-lock, it does feel better when driving as I feel like
there is a slight moment of 'progression' when the car is about to lets go
and I can actually respond. I spill spin often but I do feel like I knew
that the spin was going to come and that makes a difference to me. I don't
mind spinning if I 'felt' the spin coming and just did not
correct/compensate well enough.

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Thanks, I'll check it out.

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I think it's not really the brakes but the amount of down-force at high
speeds that makes the brakes harder to lock-up - there is just so much grip
with all that downforce and that results to more grip  for the tyres.
Though, either way, now I can brake the way you described above and that
makes the experience so much for satisfying and enjoyable.

Thanks again.

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"Damien Smith"
 but I
    Damien, I dloaded the advanced menu's and saw the extra page.(brake wear
etc.)  But the readme and the dload page also stated a track monitor was
part of the package.  How does it work??  I see nothing to enable it or what
screen to go to for viewing.
dave henrie