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more easy to drive than fast of course :)

McKafre De La Rosa
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Try out Jasons setups: http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl/

-don

No problem.  I just post my setups for anyone who might be interested.

I have a combined gas/brake controller and find that I need a little extra
front bite to help around the turns since I cannot induce oversteer easily.

One thing you may find with my Eagle / Rouen setup is that you can
catch up to people on the long bend and rear straight due to the amount
of speed you can carry with the neutral setup.

You can reduce the rear roll bar to produce a slight push and move the
brake bias forward (higher).  Everyone comments on my 51-53% brake
bias as being too neutral as well :-)

My 2 cents,
Jason.

No problem.  I just post my setups for anyone who might be interested.

I have a combined gas/brake controller and find that I need a little extra
front bite to help around the turns since I cannot induce oversteer easily.
I need to shift down to produce 'compression skids' which get my
tail around corners :-)

One thing you may find with my Eagle / Rouen setup is that you can
catch up to people on the long bend and rear straight due to the amount
of speed you can carry with the neutral setup.

You can reduce the rear roll bar to produce a slight push and move the
brake bias forward (higher).  Everyone comments on my 51-53% brake
bias as being too neutral as well :-)

My 2 cents,
Jason.

"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark

Brett

Short answer, yes, the defaults would be a good place to start.
However, like everything else in setting up these cars, you will find
that the effect of each setup change is so subjective that everyone's
perfection is a little different.  It changes from driver to driver
and car to car.

Going beyond the default ratios, you want to set up each the length of
each gear to suit your driving style, eg. how fast you want to enter,
drive, and exit every corner, and which gear at what rev is best
suited to do what you want.  I know I'm leaving out a million things.
I *feel* like how I'm setting up my car is right, but it's very
difficult to put into words.  Mostly because I don't know 100% what
I'm talking about. :) Anyone, feel free to offer some more thorough
advise.

Good luck!

Brett

I do best with Doug Arnao's Ferrari setups and Jason's Eagle setups
(or slight variations thereof). Both are suitable for a
non-trailbraking style. Did anybody else make similar experiences?

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Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

I tried my Ferrari at Silverstone setup yesterday and had one BIG surprise.
I was falling off the track left and right.  It seems my driving style is suited
more towards the non-Ferrari cars or that my setup skills were in their
infancy back then.  The Ferrari was the first car I drove.

The Eagle is my favorite car for kickin' ***:-)

Where can I get Doug Arnao's Ferrari setups?

Thanks,
Jason.

Hi Jason,

I got them from Alison's site, but that was a long time ago when the
site wasn't as big and complicated as it is today. I'm not sure I
could find them these days. ;) Anyway, it's worth a try.

BTW, did I say "Thanks for making your setups available"? No? Then let
me do it now: Thanks for making your setups available. Good job!

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Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

[something about Alison's setups]

Derek, I didn't mean to criticize your advice. It's just one of my pet
theories that there are two kinds of drivers (I'm starting to sound
like Eli Wallach in The Good, the Bad and the Ugly :) , namely those
who trail-brake and those who don't. And that the trail-brakers will
like Alison's setups, whereas the non-trail-brakers will do better
with Jason's setups.

BTW, doesn't have Alison setups for the Eagle as well? It used to be
her favourite car back before GPL was released.

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Wolfgang Preiss   \ E-mail copies of replies to this posting are welcome.

Odd, I trailbrake a lot of the time but I can't live with Alison's or
Doug's setups. I know it's supposed to be good for trailbraking but I
can't drive an understeering car anywhere near as quick as I can a car
with a positive front end. And what about the corners where you don't
need to brake, and where you need to be quick. Like Zandvoort - It has
only a handful of turns where I trailbrake, the majority being ones
where I lift slightly. My best Ferrari lap there with Doug's setup was
1.9s off my best with a modified Ian Lake setup. Might tell you
something about him as well?

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Cheers!
Graeme Nash

http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk
ICQ# 11257824

1998 Xoom GP2 League Champion

Greame,

It gets down to setups being a very personal thing.  I have had trouble
gettting the most out of anyones setups myself.  I really thought that I
would have liked yours or Steve Eymann's setups.  After driving them I
found a big difference in our styles that translates into how we like the
cars setup.  Alisons seem stable but I was actaully faster when i regeared
the defaults.  I do understand there are many people out there who have no
idea what bump and rebound are so the guys and girls who put setups out on
web should be appluaded for doing so, but sometime the driver who downloads
these will hit a limit due to someone else's driving style is different
from there own.  I have some guys who use my setups and love em but, since
their driving style is more flamboyant than mine, I think they will would
be faster if they did more work to make the setup work better for them.

Just my two cents.

--
David Robinson

Egan's Law  

The Pace car will always go 2 MPH slower then your race cars idle in first
gear.

PS.  Greame thanks for the help on getting my slow pc to run GPL.  I have
even run some online races with great success.

i did it ... copied the Glen-Cov-Alison setup to eagle and in my first 6
laps (with 20 laps fuel) i did 3 of them under 1.06.5    (1.06.3, and two
1.06.4 ) :D

i will begin to make it less understeering tightenning the rear bar

thanks!

it really feels like a coventry :)