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by **BRH** » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 10:25:43

Awhile ago, there was a thread in which someone suggested using Tiny
Personal Firewall, instead of Zone Alarm, for online racing (VROC
specifically). VROC wouldn't work with ZA.

Although I've gotten VROC to work with Tiny Firewall still active, I
sonmetime get some annoying pop-ups that either lock someone out, if I'm
hosting, of lock me out if I try to join a race.

I may know PC's somewhat, but the lingo of online connectivity eludes
me. So, can someone provide me the settings they use in Tiny's
firewall, when using VROC?

Thanks!
--
Bert

by **STP** » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 18:26:41

If you set the slider to the "don't bother me" setting that should allow all
activity with no popups at all. Just put it in the middle while not ***.
I haven't tried Tiny with any online games yet, but that should take care of
it.

by **Jens H. Kruus** » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 19:24:21

Firewall Administration -> Advanced -> Add

These settings work for me: http://www.simracing.dk/kruuse/tiny.gif

When I'm racing I remove the tick in "Ask me for action when no rule is
found".

/Jens

by **BRH** » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 23:30:48

I believe that setting means you've effectively turned off the firewall. If
so, that defeats what I'm trying to do -- Race/Host successfully while still
being reasonably secure.

> > Awhile ago, there was a thread in which someone suggested using Tiny
> > Personal Firewall, instead of Zone Alarm, for online racing (VROC
> > specifically). VROC wouldn't work with ZA.

> > Although I've gotten VROC to work with Tiny Firewall still active, I
> > sonmetime get some annoying pop-ups that either lock someone out, if I'm
> > hosting, of lock me out if I try to join a race.

> > I may know PC's somewhat, but the lingo of online connectivity eludes
> > me. So, can someone provide me the settings they use in Tiny's
> > firewall, when using VROC?

> > Thanks!
> > --
> > Bert

> If you set the slider to the "don't bother me" setting that should allow all
> activity with no popups at all. Just put it in the middle while not ***.
> I haven't tried Tiny with any online games yet, but that should take care of
> it.

--
Bert

by **BRH** » Mon, 03 Dec 2001 23:37:05

Jens, I think that you hit on the solution, Thanks.

I don't understand all the gobbledy-gook on that screen, (of course mine
doesn't match yours exactly, as it contains non-GPL/VROC stuff, as well)
but never noticed the tickbox before.

I'll try unticking it while racing from now on.

Thanks again.

> Firewall Administration -> Advanced -> Add

> These settings work for me: http://www.simracing.dk/kruuse/tiny.gif

> When I'm racing I remove the tick in "Ask me for action when no rule is
> found".

> /Jens

> > Awhile ago, there was a thread in which someone suggested using Tiny
> > Personal Firewall, instead of Zone Alarm, for online racing (VROC
> > specifically). VROC wouldn't work with ZA.

> > Although I've gotten VROC to work with Tiny Firewall still active, I
> > sonmetime get some annoying pop-ups that either lock someone out, if
> I'm
> > hosting, of lock me out if I try to join a race.

> > I may know PC's somewhat, but the lingo of online connectivity eludes
> > me. So, can someone provide me the settings they use in Tiny's
> > firewall, when using VROC?

> > Thanks!
> > --
> > Bert

--
Bert

by **Jan Verschuere** » Tue, 04 Dec 2001 00:08:44

Depends on how Tiny works... I use AtGuard and it has a setting where it
just blocks all prohibited traffic without warning/telling the user
(non-interactive mode). The events are just logged (and the packetts binned,
I guess).

There's two ways you can go about hosting and racing through a firewall...
you either set WinVROC and GPL up as "trusted" applications, i.e. you
instruct the firewall to let these two make any kind of communication they
want, or you "open up" their respective ranges of ports on the firewall
(these ranges are outlined in the VROC online FAQ, IIRC). This depends on
how this Tiny firewall works.

Jan.
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"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

by **STP** » Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:20:34

I don't think it stops it from working, it just stops the popup alerts.
Maybe I'm wrong though because I only just started to use it and am not sure
how it works exactly yet.

by **STP** » Tue, 04 Dec 2001 15:27:01

Are you using this firewall on WinXP? If so, do you know what all the ***
does that XP wants to allow to connect to the internet? I stopped the
"Generic Host Processes for Win32 services" from allowing to connect because
under ZoneAlarm it said it wanted to act as a server on my machine. I don't
need no server on my machine. I'm just using a dialup connection. If I
disallow it everything still works fine so what is this stuff for? XP loads
a bunch of stuff for just a basic modem connection to the internet that
Win98 didn't so I would like to know exactly what all this stuff does.

by **Hans** » Tue, 04 Dec 2001 17:37:04

STP heeft geschreven in bericht ...

Maybe this XP page can help you, scroll a bit down to the tabel.
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Above link is meant to set up a *** PC under XP

And this one is for XP settings as Internetgateway
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Hans van Dam
Ultimate GPL Linkspage
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Mirrorpage
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

by **STP** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 01:17:14

Yes, I've already been to that website and have them printed out. I'm
curious to know what all those processes do that show up under Tiny's filter
rules. Things like Loopback, Microsoft DS etc.

by **Jens H. Kruus** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 08:50:28

I'm using Win2k. And I have blocked most of the garbage either through
Tiny or (much preferred) by not starting the annoying Services. The rest
of my Firewall filters are limited to specific ports and/or ip-adresses.
I have a few blocks in place to prevent silly questions, eg. on the web
only ads or out-of-site counters use port 81, so I have a little block
for that. Whenever I install a new application that requires Internet
access, I allow it to do so in a restricted way query by query. At some
point a pattern emerges and allows me to make a few general but
restrictive rules for that application.

Cheers,
Jens

by **STP** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 09:59:56

OK, thx. I know XP has more ***going on than Win2K but what stuff do you
block in Tiny besides IEetc.? I'm talking the stuff that get's loaded even
beofore you open any email, browser etc. Win98 sure was simpler in this area
over XP.

by **REDLINE42** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:39:04

STP Here is a good site to get the low down on WinXP's Experience, I have
many more sites many from the beta days.
But do to the nature of the net these days I've haven't checked to see which
are still active, but this site is pretty good.

http://www.xp-erience.org/index.php

This site had a utility to turn of all the spyware of XP but it was not up
as of this writing. :-(
http://0815-ftp.ath.cx/depth.htm

Here is the text of the details page of this utility if this will be of any
help. XP wants to connect for all the automatic updates and help/support for
the average computer lamo. All of these can be turned off, either through
options or in the registry. One thing that you don't want to have active is
"Remote Control of This Computer", etc. All of my experience is with WinXP
Professional, so I don't know anything about the Home version.

WinXP Anti-SPY

Here you can find a Description of the things which are done by the Program
and what should manually be done to have the same effect:

Media Player: Don't Acquire licenses automatically - Open the Media
Player->Extras->Options... Click the tab 'Player', look at the group box
'Internet settings' and uncheck 'Acquire licenses automatically'.

Media Player: No identification by internet sites - Open the Media
Player->Extras->Options... Click the tab 'Player' ,look at the group box
'Internet settings' and uncheck 'Allow identification by internet sites'

Media Player: don't download codec's automatically - Open the Media
Player->Extras->Options... Click the tab 'Player', look at the group box
'Automatic Updates' and uncheck 'Download Codec's Automatically'

Error report: Don't report errors - Open the Explorer, right-click on 'My
Computer' and select 'Properties', click on the Tab 'Advanced' and click the
button 'Error reports', in the upcoming dialog uncheck all 3 items and
select 'Disable Error reports'

Explorer: No Remote desktop support - Open the Explorer, right-click on 'My
Computer' and select 'Properties', click on the Tab 'Remote' and uncheck all
Items (there are 2 of them).

IE6: No check for updates - Open the Explorer, select 'Control Panel' and
double click on 'Internet Options', select tab 'Advanced' uncheck 'Automatic
check for Updates'.

Internet time: Don't synchronize automatically - Double click on the clock
in the system tray, select 'Internet time' and uncheck 'Synchronize with
Timeserver'.

Services: Don't start service for Error reporting anymore - Open the
Explorer, select 'Control Panel' double click on 'Administration' double
click on 'Services' double click the entry 'Automatic Error reports' and
select 'Disabled' as 'Start type'.

Services: Don't start service for automatic updates anymore - Open the
Explorer, select 'Control Panel' double click on 'Administration' double
click on 'Services' double click the entry 'Automatic Updates' and select
'Disabled' as 'Start type'.

Services: Don't start service for timeserver anymore - Open the Explorer,
select 'Control Panel' double click on 'Administration' double click on
'Services' double click the entry 'Windows Timeserver' and select 'Disabled'
as 'Start type'.

Regsvr32: Unregister Regwizc.dll - Select Start->Run, enter in the upcoming
dialog box 'regsvr32 /u regwizc.dll' and press return. A message box should
pop up, telling you that regwizc.dll was registered successfully.

Regsvr32: Unregister licdll.dll - Select Start->Run, enter in the upcoming
dialog box 'regsvr32 /u licdll.dll' and press return. a message box should
pop up, telling you that licdll.dll was registered successfully

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by **REDLINE42** » Wed, 05 Dec 2001 13:45:01

Oh and by the way do continue to use Tiny firewall, (or any firewall that
reports outgoing packets), as the WinXP firewall is a little short on this,
or is harder to figure out.

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 07 Dec 2001 10:45:38

>When I'm racing I remove the tick in "Ask me for action when no rule is
>found".

So what does it do? Allow the action? Deny it? It has to make SOME choice,
right?<G>

Eldred
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