rec.autos.simulators

by **Larr** » Tue, 02 Jan 2001 07:09:12

While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put into Internet
Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is this
problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of us CRAZY!

First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying to
configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting (thus
opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to my Windows
2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in setting up
port assignments.

Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP and IP port
4555, and it still doesn't work.

Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He seems to be in
hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able to find,
anywhere.

I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2. What
happened?

Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000 Server,
acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_ what you
did to get this working.

Thanks!

-Larry

by **Jason** » Tue, 02 Jan 2001 14:04:12

Sounds to me (with little info), that your problem may lie in IP forwarding.
From what you have explained... your win2k Serv. is your gateway. Which
means that you are running your *** box behind that, and simply using
your win2k box as a gateway.

So my question is:

Have you setup forwarding to your local game machine?

The reason is simple... you can setup win2k as a proxy... but your firewall
must be configured to recognize that your 192.xxx.xxx.xxx machine is the one
sending/requesting the info on that port. Hence, if your gateway machine
(the one holding the firewall) is NOT the actual machine requesting that
info, your firewall will deny access.

Basically put... configure your 4555 port on your gateway to forward to your
*** machine... should work.

If that fails... reply, and we'll work it out.

Cheers,

Schumi

P.S. I am NOT the IRF creator just have tons of experience with
proxies/gateways and firewalls.

by **Jeff Cause** » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 00:58:46

Larry,

The author had a problem with the IRF server responding on a different IP
address than what it was receiving on. This meant firewalls were viewing
the return information as an attack since it was coming in from a different
IP than what the IRF program on your computer sent out. I saw a message
from him indicating he had fixed it so that it was sending and receiving on
the same IP now, so the problem should be fixed. Also note that version
2.2.1 has been released.

Hope this helps clear it up. It should be working now.

Jeff Causey
FrogDog Racing
www.frogdogracing.com

by **Larr** » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:45:51

Jason,

As I indicated in my original message, I opened up port 4555 via IP and UDP
(since it's up in the air as to which it is) and that did not resolve
anything...

I'd post a clipping of my Win2K server settings window, but I don't want to
get mugged :)

Thanks :)

-Larry

> Sounds to me (with little info), that your problem may lie in IP
forwarding.
> From what you have explained... your win2k Serv. is your gateway. Which
> means that you are running your *** box behind that, and simply using
> your win2k box as a gateway.

> So my question is:

> Have you setup forwarding to your local game machine?

> The reason is simple... you can setup win2k as a proxy... but your
firewall
> must be configured to recognize that your 192.xxx.xxx.xxx machine is the
one
> sending/requesting the info on that port. Hence, if your gateway machine
> (the one holding the firewall) is NOT the actual machine requesting that
> info, your firewall will deny access.

> Basically put... configure your 4555 port on your gateway to forward to
your
> *** machine... should work.

> If that fails... reply, and we'll work it out.

> Cheers,

> Schumi

> P.S. I am NOT the IRF creator just have tons of experience with
> proxies/gateways and firewalls.

> > While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put into
> Internet
> > Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is this
> > problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of us
CRAZY!

> > First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying to
> > configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting (thus
> > opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to my
> Windows
> > 2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in
setting
> up
> > port assignments.

> > Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP and IP
> port
> > 4555, and it still doesn't work.

> > Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He seems to
be
> in
> > hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able to
find,
> > anywhere.

> > I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2. What
> > happened?

> > Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000 Server,
> > acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_ what
you
> > did to get this working.

> > Thanks!

> > -Larry

by **Larr** » Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:46:34

Jeff,

I've been using 2.2.1...

Thanks :)

-Larry

> Larry,

> The author had a problem with the IRF server responding on a different IP
> address than what it was receiving on. This meant firewalls were viewing
> the return information as an attack since it was coming in from a
different
> IP than what the IRF program on your computer sent out. I saw a message
> from him indicating he had fixed it so that it was sending and receiving
on
> the same IP now, so the problem should be fixed. Also note that version
> 2.2.1 has been released.

> Hope this helps clear it up. It should be working now.

> Jeff Causey
> FrogDog Racing
> www.frogdogracing.com

> > While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put into
> Internet
> > Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is this
> > problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of us
CRAZY!

> > First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying to
> > configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting (thus
> > opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to my
> Windows
> > 2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in
setting
> up
> > port assignments.

> > Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP and IP
> port
> > 4555, and it still doesn't work.

> > Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He seems to
be
> in
> > hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able to
find,
> > anywhere.

> > I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2. What
> > happened?

> > Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000 Server,
> > acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_ what
you
> > did to get this working.

> > Thanks!

> > -Larry

by **Jason** » Thu, 04 Jan 2001 04:14:12

Have you thought about using an NAT system behind the firewall?

> Jason,

> As I indicated in my original message, I opened up port 4555 via IP and
UDP
> (since it's up in the air as to which it is) and that did not resolve
> anything...

> I'd post a clipping of my Win2K server settings window, but I don't want
to
> get mugged :)

> Thanks :)

> -Larry

> > Sounds to me (with little info), that your problem may lie in IP
> forwarding.
> > From what you have explained... your win2k Serv. is your gateway. Which
> > means that you are running your *** box behind that, and simply using
> > your win2k box as a gateway.

> > So my question is:

> > Have you setup forwarding to your local game machine?

> > The reason is simple... you can setup win2k as a proxy... but your
> firewall
> > must be configured to recognize that your 192.xxx.xxx.xxx machine is the
> one
> > sending/requesting the info on that port. Hence, if your gateway machine
> > (the one holding the firewall) is NOT the actual machine requesting that
> > info, your firewall will deny access.

> > Basically put... configure your 4555 port on your gateway to forward to
> your
> > *** machine... should work.

> > If that fails... reply, and we'll work it out.

> > Cheers,

> > Schumi

> > P.S. I am NOT the IRF creator just have tons of experience with
> > proxies/gateways and firewalls.

> > > While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put into
> > Internet
> > > Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is this
> > > problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of us
> CRAZY!

> > > First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying to
> > > configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting
(thus
> > > opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to my
> > Windows
> > > 2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in
> setting
> > up
> > > port assignments.

> > > Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP and
IP
> > port
> > > 4555, and it still doesn't work.

> > > Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He seems to
> be
> > in
> > > hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able to
> find,
> > > anywhere.

> > > I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2. What
> > > happened?

> > > Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000
Server,
> > > acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_ what
> you
> > > did to get this working.

> > > Thanks!

> > > -Larry

by **Tinke** » Fri, 05 Jan 2001 21:38:53

Larry,
Like you I have been frustrated for some time but recently spotted a post
suggesting JD had done some more work on 2.2.1
I've downloaded it again and re-installed (noticed that the exe date is now
22/12 dated)
I've changed nothing on my router and it now works. As before, I've got
ports open for the the 4555, 4301 and info port 2005 (both UDP & TCP). DHCP
is active on my router, as before and a software firewall is in place.
I'm back in business, so DL the latest and try again.

Tinker

> Jeff,

> I've been using 2.2.1...

> Thanks :)

> -Larry

> > Larry,

> > The author had a problem with the IRF server responding on a different
IP
> > address than what it was receiving on. This meant firewalls were
viewing
> > the return information as an attack since it was coming in from a
> different
> > IP than what the IRF program on your computer sent out. I saw a message
> > from him indicating he had fixed it so that it was sending and receiving
> on
> > the same IP now, so the problem should be fixed. Also note that version
> > 2.2.1 has been released.

> > Hope this helps clear it up. It should be working now.

> > Jeff Causey
> > FrogDog Racing
> > www.frogdogracing.com

> > > While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put into
> > Internet
> > > Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is this
> > > problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of us
> CRAZY!

> > > First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying to
> > > configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting
(thus
> > > opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to my
> > Windows
> > > 2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in
> setting
> > up
> > > port assignments.

> > > Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP and
IP
> > port
> > > 4555, and it still doesn't work.

> > > Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He seems to
> be
> > in
> > > hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able to
> find,
> > > anywhere.

> > > I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2. What
> > > happened?

> > > Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000
Server,
> > > acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_ what
> you
> > > did to get this working.

> > > Thanks!

> > > -Larry

by **Larr** » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:31:22

Schumi,

That's the first thing I did. I've forwarded port 4555 (both UDP and IP,
since there seems to be some confusion as to which it actually is).

Still no joy.

This is really getting annoying :)

-Larry

> Sounds to me (with little info), that your problem may lie in IP
forwarding.
> From what you have explained... your win2k Serv. is your gateway. Which
> means that you are running your *** box behind that, and simply using
> your win2k box as a gateway.

> So my question is:

> Have you setup forwarding to your local game machine?

> The reason is simple... you can setup win2k as a proxy... but your
firewall
> must be configured to recognize that your 192.xxx.xxx.xxx machine is the
one
> sending/requesting the info on that port. Hence, if your gateway machine
> (the one holding the firewall) is NOT the actual machine requesting that
> info, your firewall will deny access.

> Basically put... configure your 4555 port on your gateway to forward to
your
> *** machine... should work.

> If that fails... reply, and we'll work it out.

> Cheers,

> Schumi

> P.S. I am NOT the IRF creator just have tons of experience with
> proxies/gateways and firewalls.

> > While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put into
> Internet
> > Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is this
> > problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of us
CRAZY!

> > First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying to
> > configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting (thus
> > opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to my
> Windows
> > 2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in
setting
> up
> > port assignments.

> > Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP and IP
> port
> > 4555, and it still doesn't work.

> > Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He seems to
be
> in
> > hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able to
find,
> > anywhere.

> > I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2. What
> > happened?

> > Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000 Server,
> > acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_ what
you
> > did to get this working.

> > Thanks!

> > -Larry

by **Larr** » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:34:05

Tinker,

Wow, I'll try that. A version change without a version change. Neat :(

Thanks!

-Larry

> Larry,
> Like you I have been frustrated for some time but recently spotted a post
> suggesting JD had done some more work on 2.2.1
> I've downloaded it again and re-installed (noticed that the exe date is
now
> 22/12 dated)
> I've changed nothing on my router and it now works. As before, I've got
> ports open for the the 4555, 4301 and info port 2005 (both UDP & TCP).
DHCP
> is active on my router, as before and a software firewall is in place.
> I'm back in business, so DL the latest and try again.

> Tinker

> > Jeff,

> > I've been using 2.2.1...

> > Thanks :)

> > -Larry

> > > Larry,

> > > The author had a problem with the IRF server responding on a different
> IP
> > > address than what it was receiving on. This meant firewalls were
> viewing
> > > the return information as an attack since it was coming in from a
> > different
> > > IP than what the IRF program on your computer sent out. I saw a
message
> > > from him indicating he had fixed it so that it was sending and
receiving
> > on
> > > the same IP now, so the problem should be fixed. Also note that
version
> > > 2.2.1 has been released.

> > > Hope this helps clear it up. It should be working now.

> > > Jeff Causey
> > > FrogDog Racing
> > > www.frogdogracing.com

> > > > While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put into
> > > Internet
> > > > Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is
this
> > > > problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of us
> > CRAZY!

> > > > First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying to
> > > > configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting
> (thus
> > > > opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to my
> > > Windows
> > > > 2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in
> > setting
> > > up
> > > > port assignments.

> > > > Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP and
> IP
> > > port
> > > > 4555, and it still doesn't work.

> > > > Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He seems
to
> > be
> > > in
> > > > hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able to
> > find,
> > > > anywhere.

> > > > I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2. What
> > > > happened?

> > > > Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000
> Server,
> > > > acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_
what
> > you
> > > > did to get this working.

> > > > Thanks!

> > > > -Larry

by **Larr** » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 04:32:38

Win2K's ICS already uses NAT.

I could use the more heavy-duty NAT built into Remote Access and Routing,
but it's the same thing with just more features. Features I don't really
need.

-Larry

> Have you thought about using an NAT system behind the firewall?

> > Jason,

> > As I indicated in my original message, I opened up port 4555 via IP and
> UDP
> > (since it's up in the air as to which it is) and that did not resolve
> > anything...

> > I'd post a clipping of my Win2K server settings window, but I don't want
> to
> > get mugged :)

> > Thanks :)

> > -Larry

> > > Sounds to me (with little info), that your problem may lie in IP
> > forwarding.
> > > From what you have explained... your win2k Serv. is your gateway.
Which
> > > means that you are running your *** box behind that, and simply
using
> > > your win2k box as a gateway.

> > > So my question is:

> > > Have you setup forwarding to your local game machine?

> > > The reason is simple... you can setup win2k as a proxy... but your
> > firewall
> > > must be configured to recognize that your 192.xxx.xxx.xxx machine is
the
> > one
> > > sending/requesting the info on that port. Hence, if your gateway
machine
> > > (the one holding the firewall) is NOT the actual machine requesting
that
> > > info, your firewall will deny access.

> > > Basically put... configure your 4555 port on your gateway to forward
to
> > your
> > > *** machine... should work.

> > > If that fails... reply, and we'll work it out.

> > > Cheers,

> > > Schumi

> > > P.S. I am NOT the IRF creator just have tons of experience with
> > > proxies/gateways and firewalls.

> > > > While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put into
> > > Internet
> > > > Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is
this
> > > > problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of us
> > CRAZY!

> > > > First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying to
> > > > configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting
> (thus
> > > > opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to my
> > > Windows
> > > > 2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in
> > setting
> > > up
> > > > port assignments.

> > > > Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP and
> IP
> > > port
> > > > 4555, and it still doesn't work.

> > > > Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He seems
to
> > be
> > > in
> > > > hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able to
> > find,
> > > > anywhere.

> > > > I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2. What
> > > > happened?

> > > > Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000
> Server,
> > > > acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_
what
> > you
> > > > did to get this working.

> > > > Thanks!

> > > > -Larry

by **Larr** » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 05:43:43

This _may_ have fixed my problem. Not sure, though. Something did :) See
my other post for how I configured Win2K Server.

-Larry

> Tinker,

> Wow, I'll try that. A version change without a version change. Neat :(

> Thanks!

> -Larry

> > Larry,
> > Like you I have been frustrated for some time but recently spotted a
post
> > suggesting JD had done some more work on 2.2.1
> > I've downloaded it again and re-installed (noticed that the exe date is
> now
> > 22/12 dated)
> > I've changed nothing on my router and it now works. As before, I've got
> > ports open for the the 4555, 4301 and info port 2005 (both UDP & TCP).
> DHCP
> > is active on my router, as before and a software firewall is in place.
> > I'm back in business, so DL the latest and try again.

> > Tinker

> > > Jeff,

> > > I've been using 2.2.1...

> > > Thanks :)

> > > -Larry

> > > > Larry,

> > > > The author had a problem with the IRF server responding on a
different
> > IP
> > > > address than what it was receiving on. This meant firewalls were
> > viewing
> > > > the return information as an attack since it was coming in from a
> > > different
> > > > IP than what the IRF program on your computer sent out. I saw a
> message
> > > > from him indicating he had fixed it so that it was sending and
> receiving
> > > on
> > > > the same IP now, so the problem should be fixed. Also note that
> version
> > > > 2.2.1 has been released.

> > > > Hope this helps clear it up. It should be working now.

> > > > Jeff Causey
> > > > FrogDog Racing
> > > > www.frogdogracing.com

> > > > > While I certainly appreciate all the effort the author has put
into
> > > > Internet
> > > > > Race Finder, and certainly appreciate what it offers us, there is
> this
> > > > > problem with 2.2 and above and Firewalls that is driving many of
us
> > > CRAZY!

> > > > > First, I was using a LinkSYS Router. After a long time of trying
to
> > > > > configure it to work, and not willing to stay with the DMZ setting
> > (thus
> > > > > opening my whole machine to the internet) I decided to go back to
my
> > > > Windows
> > > > > 2000 Server as my Gateway/Firewall as it is much more flexible in
> > > setting
> > > > up
> > > > > port assignments.

> > > > > Well, guess what. Same problem. I've tried opening up both UDP
and
> > IP
> > > > port
> > > > > 4555, and it still doesn't work.

> > > > > Does anyone know how to reach the author of this program? He
seems
> to
> > > be
> > > > in
> > > > > hiding somewhere as there is no contact info that I've been able
to
> > > find,
> > > > > anywhere.

> > > > > I understand none of these issues existed before version 2.2.
What
> > > > > happened?

> > > > > Or, even better, if anyone has successfully set up Windows 2000
> > Server,
> > > > > acting as the Internet Sharing gateway, please tell me _exactly_
> what
> > > you
> > > > > did to get this working.

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > -Larry

by **David Kar** » Tue, 09 Jan 2001 08:15:45

To the original poster of this thread:

As a courtesy to others, please remember to put the name or the initials of
the game the post concerns at the front of the subject line (i.e. GPL,
F1CS2K, N4, N3, Nascar Heat, Rally Masters, etc.).

It makes setting up newsreader filters a lot easier.

Sincere thanks,
David

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