rec.autos.simulators

by **Andre Warrin** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:53:16

>>Err.. if you turn off that autoshift, you GPLRank will drop rapidly in
>>no-time. Autoshift in GPL is baaaaad!!!!

>>Andre

>I know, I know ... Autoshift is taboo, but this is the ring we're talking
>about here! I shift manually everywhere else, but it's still not a 'right
>brain' thing for me so I sortakinda just memorize shift points/patterns. I'm
>thinking that's gonna mighty fun at the ring :-)

It's not taboo, do whatever you please :) , but autoshift in GPL is
simply a MAJOR disadvantage!! Actually this is the first time I hear
someone say he's using autoshift in GPL :)

Andre

by **istof** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:02:15

>It's not taboo, do whatever you please :) , but autoshift in GPL is
>simply a MAJOR disadvantage!! Actually this is the first time I hear
>someone say he's using autoshift in GPL :)

>Andre

and here's the second person. i am playing with a joypad and its just
too hard at the moment to change gears manually. theres not much
point in me even bothering until i can drive the ring without spinning
or crashing anyway. i play manual on the other tracks to get used to
manual gearchanging.

Regards,
Ian

by **Andre Warrin** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:17:46

>>It's not taboo, do whatever you please :) , but autoshift in GPL is
>>simply a MAJOR disadvantage!! Actually this is the first time I hear
>>someone say he's using autoshift in GPL :)

>>Andre

>and here's the second person. i am playing with a joypad and its just
>too hard at the moment to change gears manually. theres not much
>point in me even bothering until i can drive the ring without spinning
>or crashing anyway. i play manual on the other tracks to get used to
>manual gearchanging.

>Regards,
>Ian

With a.. with a joypad? Do yourself a favor buddy, wheels are so cheap
nowadays, get one, it makes life to much easier :)

Andre

by **istof** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:08:03

hehe

a microsoft ff wheel costs about R1600 here in cape town. gpl is
currently available for R99. i would like to buy a wheel, but
basically the wheel costs about 7 times the cost of a new game. (gpl
is a budget game, of course).

if you consider that i can afford to buy less than 5 games a year,
then you realise the magnitude of the problem. with nascar4, gp3
addon, f1rc (if it is improved by the patches), wsc (!), etc all due
out sooner or later, i guess I can struggle on with my joypad a little
while longer. i had thrustmaster t2 a long time ago, which has gone
to its final resting place in peripheral heaven. i don't want another
wheel like that so a more modern wheel is going to cost quite a bit.

i do intend to buy one, obviously, but sometimes life has other
priorities. at least that's what my wife says...

sorry to sound so depressing, it was not my intention.

regards,
ian

by **Andre Warrin** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:54:25

>>>Ian

>>With a.. with a joypad? Do yourself a favor buddy, wheels are so cheap
>>nowadays, get one, it makes life to much easier :)

>>Andre
>hehe

>a microsoft ff wheel costs about R1600 here in cape town. gpl is
>currently available for R99. i would like to buy a wheel, but
>basically the wheel costs about 7 times the cost of a new game. (gpl
>is a budget game, of course).

>if you consider that i can afford to buy less than 5 games a year,
>then you realise the magnitude of the problem. with nascar4, gp3
>addon, f1rc (if it is improved by the patches), wsc (!), etc all due
>out sooner or later, i guess I can struggle on with my joypad a little
>while longer. i had thrustmaster t2 a long time ago, which has gone
>to its final resting place in peripheral heaven. i don't want another
>wheel like that so a more modern wheel is going to cost quite a bit.

>i do intend to buy one, obviously, but sometimes life has other
>priorities. at least that's what my wife says...

>sorry to sound so depressing, it was not my intention.

>regards,
>ian

Yep, the ff wheels are still quite expensive, but a non-ff wheel is
very cheap, at least here in Holland. A good non-ff wheel cost here
about 100 guilders, which is the price of a new game.
Perhaps you can find a cheap used wheel on Ebay or something like
that? An analogue joystick would be an alternative, you can get those
really cheap, and it works much better in racing games than a joypad..

PS Your wife -is- right :)

Andre

by **istof** » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:51:13

>Yep, the ff wheels are still quite expensive, but a non-ff wheel is
>very cheap, at least here in Holland. A good non-ff wheel cost here
>about 100 guilders, which is the price of a new game.
>Perhaps you can find a cheap used wheel on Ebay or something like
>that? An analogue joystick would be an alternative, you can get those
>really cheap, and it works much better in racing games than a joypad..

>PS Your wife -is- right :)

>Andre

Hooi Andr

My boss is dutch so we have a bit in common. 300 Guilders is about
R400 here and that's sounds about right for the Genius Wheels that
they sell here.

In Suid Afrika praat ons ook Afrikaans, en dit is redelik naby aan
Nederlands en seker verstaanbaar vir jou.

I am using an analog joypad at least. It is a Playstation dual shock
stick running off the parallel port :). I fried the dual shock motors
though, by running 12 volts into the stick instead of 5, but it works
fine in analog, with no rumble effects. The only problem is that it
is tooo sensitive. I have to be very careful not to overcorrect. I
am losing a lot of time to it.

I could buy an el cheapo wheel for about a quarter of the MS FF one,
so I might do that instead. I figure though that if I am patient, I
should be able to pick up a very good wheel in about 3-4 months time
if I organise my finances and save up for it.

I can use the time until then to learn the tracks even more.

Regards,
Ian

by **Andre Warrin** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:30:06

>Hooi Andr

Hoi Ian :)

That Genius wheel is non-ff I assume, so you pay 300 guilders for a
non-ff wheel? And a Microsoft ff-wheel is R1600, so 1200 Guilders??
Man, I hope you earn a lot of money there :(

Ja dat gaat best zo :)

Oh ok, at least you can drive with that. Playing GPL with a digital
joypad is near to impossible :)

As I said, check out sites like Ebay, you often find very cheap used
hardware there, including wheels..

Best of luck :)

Andre

by **Eldre** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:15:27

What's *his* rank, -30?<g>
Ian...?

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by **Eldre** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:15:28

And he's -ve doing it, dammit... :(

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by **Ian** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:21:38

uh Eldred,

my rank is +190.
where did you get the -30 from?

maybe I mentioned I believe I could knock another 30 seconds off my
gplrank the moment i get a wheel :)

i'm planning an *** on my ringtime (and gplrank) right now :)

regards,
ian

>Warringa) writes:

>>>I know, I know ... Autoshift is taboo, but this is the ring we're talking
>>>about here! I shift manually everywhere else, but it's still not a 'right
>>>brain' thing for me so I sortakinda just memorize shift points/patterns.
>>I'm
>>>thinking that's gonna mighty fun at the ring :-)

>>It's not taboo, do whatever you please :) , but autoshift in GPL is
>>simply a MAJOR disadvantage!! Actually this is the first time I hear
>>someone say he's using autoshift in GPL :)

>And he's -ve doing it, dammit... :(

>Eldred

by **Don Scurlo** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:35:51

>>>Err.. if you turn off that autoshift, you GPLRank will drop rapidly in
>>>no-time. Autoshift in GPL is baaaaad!!!!

>>>Andre

>>I know, I know ... Autoshift is taboo, but this is the ring we're talking
>>about here! I shift manually everywhere else, but it's still not a 'right
>>brain' thing for me so I sortakinda just memorize shift points/patterns. I'm
>>thinking that's gonna mighty fun at the ring :-)

>It's not taboo, do whatever you please :) , but autoshift in GPL is
>simply a MAJOR disadvantage!! Actually this is the first time I hear
>someone say he's using autoshift in GPL :)

>Andre

Leo's autoshift Ring time is 8:19.23. Seems to work for him.

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GPLRank -12.11

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http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

by **Leo Gre** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:41:23

>>>>Err.. if you turn off that autoshift, you GPLRank will drop rapidly in
>>>>no-time. Autoshift in GPL is baaaaad!!!!

>>>>Andre

>>>I know, I know ... Autoshift is taboo, but this is the ring we're talking
>>>about here! I shift manually everywhere else, but it's still not a 'right
>>>brain' thing for me so I sortakinda just memorize shift points/patterns. I'm

>>>thinking that's gonna mighty fun at the ring :-)

>>It's not taboo, do whatever you please :) , but autoshift in GPL is
>>simply a MAJOR disadvantage!! Actually this is the first time I hear
>>someone say he's using autoshift in GPL :)

>>Andre

>Leo's autoshift Ring time is 8:19.23. Seems to work for him.

Thanx ... I try :-)

by **Eldre** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 05:33:14

>uh Eldred,

>my rank is +190.
>where did you get the -30 from?

>maybe I mentioned I believe I could knock another 30 seconds off my
>gplrank the moment i get a wheel :)

>i'm planning an *** on my ringtime (and gplrank) right now :)

>regards,
>ian

Hehe... Leo just reported that he still used autoshift, but he has a -12 or so
rank. The joke was that you're using a joypad, and you'd probably be -30...get
it? Nevermind, GPL has turned me into a paranoid lunatic... Keep playing it,
you might understand why... :)

Eldred
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Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
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by **Ian** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 05:33:09

hi,

did my best lap so far at the ring.

improved by 15 seconds to 9:36. still using the joypad :)

however, in training mode, that lap came thru as XXX. Did i go
offroad too much or what? i can't normally keep the car on the track
all the time at the best of times so I don't know what the problem is.

in sections of the track such as the bit before the pits, i try and
'straighten' the curves by putting a wheel on the grass. if I do that
too much or go too far off, am i penalised for the lap? my guess is
yes. how far do you go before you are penalised and is there an
warning when you do it. I was very annoyed when I got to the pitboard
and didn't get a time :( I would have liked to improve my Gplrank by
15 seconds. I was ranked 1976 (+191) about 2 days ago and now I've
been bumped back to 1980 (+181). Another 15 seconds should move me up
a bit. Darn. Its refreshing to see how many people are still
submitting laps though, so I can't complain.

i basically worked out the time by subtracting the the session clock
at the start and end of the lap.

i'm a bit pissed off at myself as I had to shift-r at least twice
during the lap.

if its in the manual, somebody please tell me and I can read up on
that. i last read the manuals the day my baby was born 'bout 7 months
ago and I needed some reading material while my wife was in labour :)

regards,
all.

by **Thom j** » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 06:52:14

You sure do Leo!! Wow!! Amazing using auto-shift.. May I ask what
chassis you are using?? Tia... Thom_j.

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