rec.autos.simulators

Heya Edward.  If you want better help, create a newsgroup server called
"localnews.ten.net" and subscribe to the TEN.games.simulations.nascar
newsgroup. There's about 100message per day there and it's THE place for
NROS discussion ;)

You can type by pressing "T", typing your message and after pressing enter
to send it. Some people developped the skill of typing and racing at the
same time, but it's recommanded to only chat while your in the pits because
of the risk of those maneuvers ;)

No it's not nessecary.  About nobody does this, but normally always say when
you exit the pits with your Autochat messages (CTRL + Fxx).

Yes and no.  You can paint the cars to what you want (always keep the good
car numbers), but it doesn't mean you will always be in the car you want to.
They are assigned by the entry of people, so if your the 15th car to enter
you will be assigned with the 15th car in the list. It's a little more
complicated because of people exiting/boots, etc...

Yes as I said it's better to do so.  Also always exit the pits staying on
the apron of the track until after the turn.

It's a series of macros that you have in a file called autochat.msg in your
Nascar2 folder. To use them as I said press Control + the Fxx keys.  To edit
them open "autochat.msg" with notepad, but always save it as a *.msg not a
txt file.

There's some level of driver skill on the NROS.  Pickup races as you did
have mostly bad drivers who don't have much skills and thus create wrecks.
By winning against those easy fields (normally 0-15 skill races) you will
move up skill and rank and access to better drivers.

The best thing is to check out the LPI of the people (right-click on their
names in the "Who's here" list).  If it's under 20, watch out they aren't
really safe.  A good LPI  (laps per incident) is normally above 30-35.

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.racesimcentral.net/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I didn't think so.... Although an "Exiting Pits" is appreciated so
drivers know a car is coming onto track.

Other people will see paint scheme that they have. You'll see paint
scheme that YOU have. Don't change car numbers from what Papyrus
assigns. If you paint a Late Show with David Letterman car only YOU will
see that car. (unless you 'give' someone that car to go in their carset)

Yip

It is a text file in you Nascar2 directory. The lines correspond with
the Function keys (F1-F9 I think). You can put custom messages in the
autochat.msg file and 'talk' while racing with a keystroke (control
F1-Control F9). Basically, you'd want IMPORTANT messages like "I'm
exiting pits" or "Pass High".... Open AUTOCHAT offline with a txt editor
like NOTEPAD.

That is a big reason why I haven't been there in a LONG time. I should
cancel if I'm not going to use it. It is no fun to start a race and have
some Jockey try to win on lap 1. Just because you ~can~ drop low and
drag race into T1 (all out of shape and on apron) doesn't mean that you
have to! THAT maneuver generally ends the race for everyone behind the
'apron driver' :-(

Hope I helped...
Alan
http://www.kiva.net/~akh/simshop.html

            Jeff Smith
       "Custom" on Ten
        ---WFO Racing---
 www.srscom.com/wforacing
           ICQ 3360121

Things like this can be avoided easily.

1) Create a passworded race to only allow a select group of safe drivers to
join

2) Create a race (or join one) that has a higher than 0-15 set of skill
level. Be sure that in a 4-15 Nazareth there is no bad drivers.

3) Join a league. Pickup racing is full of people who are there only to have
fun, and don't mind wreck or getting wrecked. By joining a user created
league (over 100) or accessing to the Nascar sanctioned online series
(registration should start next month) you won't have trouble joining a safe
environment of racing.

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Is it expected that you announce your presence when you join a
race/practice?

Can you run your own car(paint schemes)?

Should you announce entry and exit from pit road? Some people do....

What is autochat?

Is it normal for people to crash so much? I joined 2 races at Tally cause
it's an easy place to get around and I like it, too, and wound up finshing
2nd in the first race and winning the second race cause the front guys
couldn't keep from taking each other out.....I thought, hell, this is too
easy.....it was, 2 races at the rock today straightened me out, but still,
lot's of crashin'.

Anyway, this is the coolest thing I've done in a while, can't wait to try
VROC and GPL.                                                   TIA, Ed

Ed White         DJ and Rusty in '99   GO#2  &  #88

You may run any carset you like.  But the other drivers will see only the cars
from there carsets.  It;s best to use the nros set so that everyone knows who;s
who.

Auto chat are the F-keys.  F1 thru F6, i believe.  when you hit them in a race
they automatically chat on the screen.  You may change them by going into
nascar 2 in windows explorer and double click on the file AUTOCHAT.  it will go
to notepad and you may change whatever they say to whatever you want them to
say.

Unfortunaely it is way too common for the crashes.  Problem is that no one can
get hurt so they drive like it.  too bad.  it ruins what could be so much fun.

Mike

The ***agers seem to be good at it.  We 40 year olds hit the wall every
time :)

Always announce entry and exit from Pit road.

Autochat is programming things (like pit exits and entries) into the
F1-F10 keys (you must hold Control key down when pressing a function key
for autochat).

The text file to modify for this is in the nascar 2 directory.

Taladega is one of the most crash-prone tracks on NROS.  It is an LPI
killer if you race there a lot.  The laps are long, and low in count.

The most common reason for crashes is patience.  About 60% of Dega
racers seem to think they need to be in first place by the end of the
first lap.

Another common reason is braking.  For some reason, a lot of folks
refuse to brake at Dega.  They figure they will either get lucky and
steer around, or smash thru whatever is in front of them in the process.
Oddly enough, these are the boneheads that *** the most when they
crash.

Vent Mode On
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Finally, another big cause for incidents at Dega are those races with
the temp set at a TOTALLY UNREALISTIC 40 DEGREE'S.  I wish people would
knock that shit off!  They are willing to give up any kind of stability
in turns 3 and 4 just for that little extra rush of speed at the end of
the back strait.  It's stupid, and it causes nothing but wrecks, wrecks,
wrecks in turns 3 and 4.  Realistic, fun races at Dega start at 70
degree's.  The best races I've ever been in were at 86 degree's.
Vent Mode Off
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It's a shame, but higher level's at Dega don't always mean cleaner
races.  Some of the stupidest, dirtiest, crashiest (?) races I've been
in have been 13-15 skill races.  Everyone thinks their Dale Earnhardt:)

Overall, in the lower skill levels, you will see more crashes.

My advice is to _always_ avoid the wreck.  I don't care if you have to
slow down and lose a position.  IMHO, missing the wreck, protecting your
LPI, and maintaining the respect of your fellow drivers is job #1.  The
wins will come with time.

Oh, that brings up one bad thing, though.  The more carefull you are,
and the more likely you are to brake to steer around the accidents, the
more likely you are to get smashed in the ass end by the bonehead behind
you that, as discussed above, refuses to use brakes at any cost and
would just as well crash out a gaggle of cars as to commit the ultimate
sin of losing a position on the track.

Don't know if this helps, but I sure feel better now :)

-Larry

You do have to take into account racers that run at Dega a lot.  Dega is
*** on your LPI because there are lots of wrecks you get caught up in
that you have nothing to do with, and the track is so long there aren't
many laps that click off to help raise it back up.

I have over 20,000 laps and I don't know how many hundreds of races at
Dega, and my LPI overall suffers because I like racing there.

Track-by-track LPI's are the most important, IMHO.  Overall LPI's can be
misleading.

BTW - I was there right beside you this weekend when [name deleted]
caused us all that trouble at Nashville :(

-Larry