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John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

Goy Larse

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by Goy Larse » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:07:06


> I may be wrong about lots of things, but Mr.J.Simmons isn't one of them.
> Lets count how many abusive and rude comments he has made to various
> subscribers to this group over the years, shall we ?
> You sticking up for him is just "good old boy's" shit.  And it stinks.
> Play a new tune.

You're really not a good judge of characters are you, I stick up for
him, if this can be called that, because he's worth it

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

redTe

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by redTe » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:18:49


> > I may be wrong about lots of things, but Mr.J.Simmons isn't one of them.
> > Lets count how many abusive and rude comments he has made to various
> > subscribers to this group over the years, shall we ?
> > You sticking up for him is just "good old boy's" shit.  And it stinks.
> > Play a new tune.

> You're really not a good judge of characters are you, I stick up for
> him, if this can be called that, because he's worth it

I think I'm an excellent judge of character, but then, don't we all.  But
Simmons has proved time and again that he is obnoxious and bigoted, not just
to me personally, but to many others. If you can't see that, then you're the
one with the problem.
Tony Rickar

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by Tony Rickar » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:21:09

You're going to make John cry in a minute, Goy :)

John sticks up for what he believes in. Usenet has a habit of turning
what would be a fun debate between friends in the pub to a full on
brawl. John isn't prepared to lay back and take it and why should he?

In this case I wouldn't agree with John's stance on the post being
deleted but that is hardly going to turn us against each other, yet the
racism ***is just plain abusive and out of order. So don't be
surprised to get some back.

Spot on. Hell I'm gonna cry too...

Tony

John Simmon

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by John Simmon » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:02:54



"wagina men"

ROFLMAO!

Goy's cool, leave him be... :)

John Simmon

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by John Simmon » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:03:54






> >> Bigot:  One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion,
> >> race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ

> >That means everyone here who disagrees with me is a bigot.  I'm
> >offering a differing viewpoint, and they're intolerant.

> >That makes me a persecuted victim.

> >Crap. Now I'm a minority...

> LOL - where's the ACLU when ya need them?  On the other side, you are
> probably eligible for some 'free' government money now!

There's no such thing as free money, and if the government is
involved, they'll want it back - in spades.

:)

Goy Larse

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by Goy Larse » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:11:51


> Goy's cool, leave him be... :)

Coming from an ultra conservative, ultra patriotic redneck like yourself
I'm not sure if that's a compliment, next thing I'll be invited over for
Mountain Oysters....

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

John Simmon

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by John Simmon » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:08:54


says...


> > I may be wrong about lots of things, but Mr.J.Simmons isn't one of them.
> > Lets count how many abusive and rude comments he has made to various
> > subscribers to this group over the years, shall we ?
> > You sticking up for him is just "good old boy's" shit.  And it stinks.
> > Play a new tune.

> You're really not a good judge of characters are you, I stick up for
> him, if this can be called that, because he's worth it

Yeah Ted, and I'll add a carefully constructed response of my own...

NEENER-***IN-NEENER!

I purposefully kept it short for you and yours (all having the
apparent mental capacity of a ball bearing).

Goy is anything but a "good ol' boy".  He's articulate, concise, and
not nearly as much of an *** as I am.

redTe

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by redTe » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:09:48

I'd be very surprised to get some back as the man himself has blocked me
long ago. You see, I had the audacity to argue with him on certain points
and his response to any criticism normally, is to run away. Remember when he
threw his toys out because he was getting whooped on Rascar ? What happened
then ?
I'm aware of the "good old boys" network in here, and I don't give a ***
about it. So, fire away on Simmons' behalf as he can't actually stand up for
himself.

Tony Rickar

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by Tony Rickar » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:12:16

LOL !!

Goy Larse

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by Goy Larse » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:23:20


> I think I'm an excellent judge of character, but then, don't we all.  But
> Simmons has proved time and again that he is obnoxious and bigoted, not just
> to me personally, but to many others. If you can't see that, then you're the
> one with the problem.

Listen mate, I know you have some issues with John about something,
quite honestly I have no idea but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it
had something to do with the lettering on your car not being proper for
a Nascar or something, but really, if you can't see past what you
believe to be obnoxious and bigoted behavior, then you aren't such a
good judge of character as you think you are

I'll be the first to admit that I'm doing some of the same when it comes
to you, a lot of my opinion of you has been formed by the way you've
taken it upon yourself to take cheap shots at John whenever the opp
presents itself, which is probably unfair to you

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

John Simmon

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by John Simmon » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:17:48


says...


> > Goy's cool, leave him be... :)

> Coming from an ultra conservative, ultra patriotic redneck like yourself
> I'm not sure if that's a compliment, next thing I'll be invited over for
> Mountain Oysters....

I can guarantee freshness, too...   :)
Tony Rickar

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by Tony Rickar » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:24:17

Then the thread about his decal post gets very muddled if it is an
opportunity to revisit previous spats. So be it.

No, John stands up for himself whilst we good old boys cringe...

Malc

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by Malc » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:28:43


I don't doubt that he's a decent enough chap, most people are within their
own circle of friends, but there are ways to present oneself and ones
opinions on a public and international forum in a much more diplomatic and
coherent way, that are rather less likely to start a flame war. It's an
important lesson that more people should learn.

I'm not a big NASCAR fan, and I don't really have a strong opinion on the
Toyota debate, but I strongly dissaprove of John reinforcing the current
public (British, at any rate) general opinion that Americans think their
country is the best & feel they must say so at every opportunity. Everyone
thinks their own country is 'the best', but telling a foreigner that won't
change their opinion about their own country, it'll just***them off.

I'll not harp on about freedom like John and others have, I'll just go right
ahead and USE that freedom of speech that he doesn't think I have.

John, if you don't want your message to the world to be misunderstood by, in
Goy's words 'a pretty smart guy' then make it less ambiguous.

There's nothing wrong with not liking Toyotas, I don't particularly like
them either, but there's one hell of a lot wrong with not liking the
Japanese and that's the message you inadvertantly put out. There's no
journalistic spin on a flame war, it's just lots of people reacting in the
predictable way that crowds do.

Crowds have acted this way throughout history. You not caring about other
people's opinions won't change the fact that THEY care about their feelings,
and THEY don't like having them upset by YOU.

Ever heard of the story of "Pandora's Box"?
Ever heard the phrase "An Eye for an Eye"?
Or my personal favourite, "Stiff upper lip old chap."

These are stories you are taught at school, because they are important
social lessons in how to behave.

And Goy, I don't take sides, I'm on MY side. Unlike redTed however, I don't
bear grudges, and I appreciate what you're trying to do.

Malc.

Goy Larse

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by Goy Larse » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:34:02


> I'm aware of the "good old boys" network in here, and I don't give a ***
> about it.

If that really exists, then I'm offended about not having even been
approached, I've been lurking since 95 and posting since 96, I'm a
member of one of the oldest sim racing sites still in existence and I
used to be a very active sim racer

I've earned my dues dammit !!!

Guess I'm not as popular around here as I thought I was, I'm
shocked.........

Joke aside, there's no "good old boys" network in here, some of us has
been around for quite a number of years and know each other well, this
means that sometimes there will be an inside joke or something, or we'll
remeniss (sp) about "old times", which is something you can't be a part
of unless "you were there"

And yes, I guess some of us thinks of some of those others in here who
has been around for as long some of us have as "friends" in some way,
but you're reading way too much into this mate

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

redTe

John's Anti Jap Car tirade...sorry about the new thread

by redTe » Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:31:13

After all this time that's the best you can do ?
Better put me back in your kill-file before get yourself all stressed out
again, Cletus.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention my car is a Nissan GTI. Very nice, very fast and
very Japanese.


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