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Modem recommendations

Douglas Elliso

Modem recommendations

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 01:35:10

Anyone got recommendations for the best dial up modem for sim racing.

I currently have a serial port Supra Express 56e - I also have a PCI
internal jobbie ( software - not hardware)

Which would be the better of the two, and if I should consider another
modem - which one?

Cheers

Doug

Martin Granbe

Modem recommendations

by Martin Granbe » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:03:51

On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:35:10 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"


>I currently have a serial port Supra Express 56e - I also have a PCI
>internal jobbie ( software - not hardware)

>Which would be the better of the two, and if I should consider another
>modem - which one?

The Supra should be the better one of the two. Software modems are
always taking *some* CPU power away. However, these days with fast
CPUs I wonder if it makes much difference.

I've heard that USB modems might be better than an external one, but I
doubt the difference is that big. If you decide on an USB modem, make
sure it isn't a winmodem (many are).

Have a look at Alison's GPL online F.A.Q, she has lots of info about
this. Can't find the link right now.

Cheers,

/Martin
who has a Supra somewhere collecting dust...

Rob Adam

Modem recommendations

by Rob Adam » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:05:13


EEK! Software modem BAD!!!  :)

Any good-quality hardware modem should work for online racing. Also, a 56K
modem is often WORSE for *** than a 33.6K (or even 28K) modem - that
additional speed is accomplished with various compression schemes, which are
often unnecessary as the game has already compressed its packets in its own
way. 56K is also more dependent on line quality, and may retransmit in an
attempt to get that throughput.

Before I got ADSL, I bought a used 33.6 internal hardware modem for $25 at
my local computer store and it worked great. I'm sure an external modem is
fine too, as long as it's not a software one. I just didn't want the extra
clutter.

Rob Adam

Modem recommendations

by Rob Adam » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:07:52

I tried a USB modem back in the old days. It improved the connection
enormously (much less warping) but my frame rates took a huge dive (on a PII
333 with SLI'd Voodoo 2's). Thinking about it now, it must have been a
winmodem, although I'm sure I would have checked. I kept it for a week then
shelved it and bought a 33.6K internal hardware modem, which worked great
until I finally got ADSL.

Douglas Elliso

Modem recommendations

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:09:32

I have 2 version of my dial up account - one has compression turned off :D

Doug

Morgan Boo

Modem recommendations

by Morgan Boo » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:14:53

Doug...can't you network to some dense sap down in Newfoundpool with
cable/dsl....?

;-))

Morgan

Douglas Elliso

Modem recommendations

by Douglas Elliso » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:35:08


Phoned BT  - No ADSL at my exchange.

Phoned NTL - No cable model at my exchange.

1.5 miles from the centre of a 150,000+ city - and no broadband.

Great isnt it

Doug

Goy Larse

Modem recommendations

by Goy Larse » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:49:30


> Anyone got recommendations for the best dial up modem for sim racing.

> I currently have a serial port Supra Express 56e - I also have a PCI
> internal jobbie ( software - not hardware)

> Which would be the better of the two, and if I should consider another
> modem - which one?

Have you looked at ISDN.....latency will be a little lower, usually
about 30-50ms lower, and if you need extra bandwidth, you can usually
use both ISDN channels and get a 128k connection, for a price, it's not
broadband, but it might be enough to get decent MP in F1-2002 on a good
server

Over here I'm paying 55/3 months for my ISDN connection, plus used time
of course, regular analogue phone line is about 40/3 months, passive
ISDN modems run about the same price as software modems

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

DB

Modem recommendations

by DB » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:38:51

Stay with the external Supra modem IMO.

Force you're connection speed to 26400
disable compression
enable error correction
force serial port to 56k no autobaud

This worked pretty good for me.

Good Luck
Dave


Larr

Modem recommendations

by Larr » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:10:12

Most people won't go with my recommendation due to the cost, but this is
something that I, personally, have never waivered on.

When it comes to Modems, there's only one king of hill.  The 3COM/US
Robotics Courier V.56 Everything.

It's an industrial/corporate class modem that's built better than anything
else out there.

It is also, unfortunately, expensive.  The last one I bought was $250.

A lot of ISP's use Courier Rack-Mounts for incomming connections.

-Larry


Larr

Modem recommendations

by Larr » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:12:00

Oh, and WHATEVER you do, do NOT get a WinModem.  Just about everything on an
internal PCI card these days is a WinModem.  There is one (maybe two)
exceptions to this but true hardware internal modems are extremely difficult
to find.

Absolutely, positively get a true HARDWARE based modem.  This means it will
most likely be an external.

The USR Courier I recommend, of course, is a true hardware modem.

-Larry


Larr

Modem recommendations

by Larr » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:13:25

That's pretty good advice...

-Larry


Larr

Modem recommendations

by Larr » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:14:22

The best online *** I ever experienced was over ISDN.

Unfortunately, it cost $120 per 60/B-Channel hrs where I am :(

Verizon SUCKS!

-Larry



> > Anyone got recommendations for the best dial up modem for sim racing.

> > I currently have a serial port Supra Express 56e - I also have a PCI
> > internal jobbie ( software - not hardware)

> > Which would be the better of the two, and if I should consider another
> > modem - which one?

> Have you looked at ISDN.....latency will be a little lower, usually
> about 30-50ms lower, and if you need extra bandwidth, you can usually
> use both ISDN channels and get a 128k connection, for a price, it's not
> broadband, but it might be enough to get decent MP in F1-2002 on a good
> server

> Over here I'm paying 55/3 months for my ISDN connection, plus used time
> of course, regular analogue phone line is about 40/3 months, passive
> ISDN modems run about the same price as software modems

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "The Pits" http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> --Groucho Marx--

Goy Larse

Modem recommendations

by Goy Larse » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:24:03


> The best online *** I ever experienced was over ISDN.

> Unfortunately, it cost $120 per 60/B-Channel hrs where I am :(

> Verizon SUCKS!

Off peak hours here is about a dollar an hour I guess, but with
companies like Tiscali and such you can pay a fixed fee for 150 hours or
something a month, about 50 dollars I think

Yes, ISDN is excellent for *** as a client, latency is about as low
as you get unless your sitting right next to the server on a major
backbone, bandwidth is of course limited, but then again any decent
multiplayer code won't use the full 64k available in the first place,
let alone the 128k available if needed

Not that I'm going back to ISDN from my ADSL :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

Leo Landma

Modem recommendations

by Leo Landma » Wed, 12 Jun 2002 05:33:00



How can I see if I have my PCI jobby is a WinModem or not?

Bye,
Leo


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