For a deeper explanation of the performance differences betw. the various
Detonators, I recommend:
http://f1gamers.com/cgi-bin/f1/link.pl?http://www.guru3d.com/detonato...
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> Thanks for being stud-muffin enuf to admit it! <BG>
> "Iain Mackenzie" <iain.macken...@REMOVE.ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:NVyv7.17253$jE3.2173029@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > Steve
> > Where did GPL come into this??? I know this is RAS, but that's taking
ot
> a
> > bit too far!!!! You mean F1 2001 obviously. Well, see another post from
> me
> > on the difference it made getting rid of the 21.81 drivers.
> > Iain
> > "Stephen Smith" <ssmit...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3ntv7.620157$EF2.86863420@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
> > > Calm down, John; Thomas there wasn't asking what planet *you* were
> from--I
> > > think his comments were directed at Iain. I don't think Iain has had
> much
> > > experience with GPL and his GF2/21.xx Det combo; a lot of people
> including
> > > me had trouble there and went back to the earlier drivers. He seems
> > miffed
> > > at the VERY IDEA that the latest drivers aren't giving him the best
> > > performance.
> > > The other point seems to be that he'd rather have bad FF than no
> feedback
> > at
> > > all. One of the F1 2001 designers seemed acutely embarrassed at the
FF
> > > implementation in F1CS and said he'd rather have no FF than bad FF,
> > > promising a patch to solve the problem later on. Of course, a lot of
> > people
> > > are still waiting for the patch for F1 2000. The only FF I've seen
(or
> > > felt) that does anything to help you drive the car is Papy's (in GPL &
> > N4),
> > > altho the implementation in Mobil 1 Rally Championship was
near-great--I
> > > loved how *all* feeling went away when you were skating across a patch
> of
> > > the dreaded Black Ice (no, not the firewall).
> > > --Steve
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Bodin" <jbodin_nos...@iquest.net>
> > > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
> > > Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:49 PM
> > > Subject: Re: F1 2001 - first impressions!?!
> > > > For better video performance, try running in windowed mode -- set
the
> > > > parameter in the config.ini file to "1" (instead of "0"). This is a
> > > > known problem with newer Detonator drivers.
> > > > You might also want to visit the High Gear forums -- a LOT of people
> > > > over there disagree with most of your assessment, it seems,
including
> > > > a lot of F1RC, GP3, and GPL fans.
> > > > -- JB
> > > > On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:08:04 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"
> > > > <iain.macken...@REMOVE.ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > > > >Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!
> > > > >1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds
> > like
> > > a
> > > > >scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!
> > > > >2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and
> > > overly
> > > > >filtered - whether running @ 1280 or 640. Frame rate seems OK at
any
> > res,
> > > > >EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and
> > feels
> > > > >like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.
> > > > >3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite
> trying
> > > > >several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The
> > back
> > > end
> > > > >comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description
> just
> > > > >causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the
> car
> > > at
> > > > >all.
> > > > >4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering
> over
> > > any
> > > > >button.
> > > > >5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars
> > finish
> > > > >each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to
> race
> > > in
> > > > >any way competitively for previous reasons.
> > > > >6) Mirrors don't work at all!
> > > > >7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there
> is
> > no
> > > > >excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF
> from
> > > F1CS.
> > > > >8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make
> it
> > > > >unplayable.
> > > > >I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong
somewhere,
> as
> > I
> > > > >have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find.
If
> > > things
> > > > >don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.
> > > > >GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing
> to
> > > worry
> > > > >about from F1 2001.
> > > > >Shall we wait for the patch?
> > > > >(BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb
> RAM)
> > > > >Iain
> > > "John Bodin" <jbodin_nos...@iquest.net> wrote in message
> > > news:3bbe0f8f.19256218@nntp.ext.ray.com...
> > > > The planet of pathetic driver mismatches, I think -- why else would
> > > > you use Detonator drivers that are optimized for the GeForce3 with a
> > > > GeForce2 Ultra?
> > > > Alternate answer: The plant of people who have not yet learned the
> > > > advantages of running F1 2001 in windowed mode if you're using newer
> > > > Detonator drivers . . .
> > > > :-p
> > > > ;-)
> > > > -- JB
> > > > On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 19:26:29 GMT, "Thomas Heineman"
> > > > <thomas.heinemanREMOVES...@home.se> wrote:
> > > > >What planet are you from?
> > > > >Thomas
> > > > >"Iain Mackenzie" <iain.macken...@REMOVE.ntlworld.com> skrev i
> > meddelandet
> > > > >news:TNlv7.11849$jE3.1544199@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com...
> > > > >> Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very
poor!
> > > > >> 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding
sounds
> > > like a
> > > > >> scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!
> > > > >> 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal
and
> > > overly
> > > > >> filtered - whether running @ 1280 or 640. Frame rate seems OK at
> any
> > > res,
> > > > >> EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks
and
> > > feels
> > > > >> like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.
> > > > >> 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite
> > trying
> > > > >> several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car!
The
> > > back
> > > > >end
> > > > >> comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any
description
> > just
> > > > >> causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with
the
> > car
> > > at
> > > > >> all.
> > > > >> 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when
hovering
> > over
> > > > >any
> > > > >> button.
> > > > >> 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5
cars
> > > finish
> > > > >> each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable
to
> > race
> > > in
> > > > >> any way competitively for previous reasons.
> > > > >> 6) Mirrors don't work at all!
> > > > >> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA,
there
> > is
> > > no
> > > > >> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF
> > from
> > > > >F1CS.
> > > > >> 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and
make
> > it
> > > > >> unplayable.
> > > > >> I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong
> somewhere,
> > as
> > > I
> > > > >> have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find.
> If
> > > > >things
> > > > >> don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.
> > > > >> GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have
nothing
> > to
> > > > >worry
> > > > >> about from F1 2001.
> > > > >> Shall we wait for the patch?
> > > > >> (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP,
512Mb
> > RAM)
> > > > >> Iain
