rec.autos.simulators

by **John Bod** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 04:54:13

The planet of pathetic driver mismatches, I think -- why else would
you use Detonator drivers that are optimized for the GeForce3 with a
GeForce2 Ultra?

Alternate answer: The plant of people who have not yet learned the
advantages of running F1 2001 in windowed mode if you're using newer
Detonator drivers . . .

:-p

;-)

-- JB

On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 19:26:29 GMT, "Thomas Heineman"

>What planet are you from?

>Thomas

>> Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

>> 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds like a
>> scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

>> 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and overly

>> EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and feels
>> like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

>> 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite trying
>> several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The back
>end
>> comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description just
>> causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the car at
>> all.

>> 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering over
>any
>> button.

>> 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars finish
>> each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to race in
>> any way competitively for previous reasons.

>> 6) Mirrors don't work at all!

>> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is no
>> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
>F1CS.

>> 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
>> unplayable.

>> I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, as I
>> have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
>things
>> don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

>> GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
>worry
>> about from F1 2001.

>> Shall we wait for the patch?

>> (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb RAM)

>> Iain

by **<_>** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 05:23:08

>I said it then and I'll say it now: I am NOT going to downgrade video
>drivers to run one specific game when all the other games on my HD run
>BETTER with the new drivers than with the old

Hell yeah! Testify!

You said it, Rob.

Dale.

by **Greg Cisk** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:52:23

I am quite surprised at this. I also saw F1 2001 at the SAP tent
at the USGP. It looked essentially the same as F1 2000 CS. The
framerate was fine and there were no issues like this at all.

--

> Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds like a
> scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and overly

> EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and feels
> like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite trying
> several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The back
end
> comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description just
> causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the car at
> all.

> 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering over
any
> button.

> 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars finish
> each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to race in
> any way competitively for previous reasons.

> 6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is no
> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
F1CS.

> 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
> unplayable.

> I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, as I
> have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
things
> don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
worry
> about from F1 2001.

> Shall we wait for the patch?

> (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb RAM)

> Iain

by **Greg Cisk** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:53:22

Hey Ian... Duh :-)

--

> For better video performance, try running in windowed mode -- set the
> parameter in the config.ini file to "1" (instead of "0"). This is a
> known problem with newer Detonator drivers.

> You might also want to visit the High Gear forums -- a LOT of people
> over there disagree with most of your assessment, it seems, including
> a lot of F1RC, GP3, and GPL fans.

> -- JB

> On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:08:04 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"

> >Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> >1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds like
a
> >scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> >2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and
overly

> >EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and feels
> >like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> >3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite trying
> >several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The back
end
> >comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description just
> >causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the car
at
> >all.

> >4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering over
any
> >button.

> >5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars finish
> >each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to race
in
> >any way competitively for previous reasons.

> >6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> >7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is no
> >excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
F1CS.

> >8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
> >unplayable.

> >I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, as I
> >have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
things
> >don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> >GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
worry
> >about from F1 2001.

> >Shall we wait for the patch?

> >(BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb RAM)

> >Iain

by WB » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:51:43

ALLOT of people agree with him there to :P

>You might also want to visit the High Gear forums -- a LOT of people
>over there disagree with most of your assessment, it seems, including
>a lot of F1RC, GP3, and GPL fans.

>-- JB

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:54:36

Nonsense!! the 21.821 drivers have been a big improvement on my GF2 Ultra
in everything else. It's a F1 2001 problem.
Iain

> The planet of pathetic driver mismatches, I think -- why else would
> you use Detonator drivers that are optimized for the GeForce3 with a
> GeForce2 Ultra?

> Alternate answer: The plant of people who have not yet learned the
> advantages of running F1 2001 in windowed mode if you're using newer
> Detonator drivers . . .

> :-p

> ;-)

> -- JB

> On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 19:26:29 GMT, "Thomas Heineman"

> >What planet are you from?

> >Thomas

> >> Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> >> 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds
like a
> >> scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> >> 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and
overly

res,
> >> EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and
feels
> >> like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> >> 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite trying
> >> several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The
back
> >end
> >> comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description just
> >> causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the car
at
> >> all.

> >> 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering over
> >any
> >> button.

> >> 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars
finish
> >> each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to race
in
> >> any way competitively for previous reasons.

> >> 6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> >> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is
no
> >> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
> >F1CS.

> >> 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
> >> unplayable.

> >> I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, as
I
> >> have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
> >things
> >> don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> >> GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
> >worry
> >> about from F1 2001.

> >> Shall we wait for the patch?

> >> (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb RAM)

> >> Iain

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:56:13

Greg
I had big hopes for this sim, but give me F1 2000 CS any day.
Iain

> I am quite surprised at this. I also saw F1 2001 at the SAP tent
> at the USGP. It looked essentially the same as F1 2000 CS. The
> framerate was fine and there were no issues like this at all.

> --

> > Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> > 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds like
a
> > scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> > 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and
overly

res,
> > EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and
feels
> > like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> > 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite trying
> > several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The back
> end
> > comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description just
> > causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the car
at
> > all.

> > 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering over
> any
> > button.

> > 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars
finish
> > each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to race
in
> > any way competitively for previous reasons.

> > 6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> > 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is
no
> > excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
> F1CS.

> > 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
> > unplayable.

> > I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, as
I
> > have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
> things
> > don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> > GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
> worry
> > about from F1 2001.

> > Shall we wait for the patch?

> > (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb RAM)

> > Iain

by **Morgan Boo** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 08:01:45

Iain..from reading all your posts here and in forums,and also studying most
of the other guys posts in fair detail...i have a definite conclusion.

PC's are not your forte in life,dont ever think they are.

...now what's that saying...?....tools..?....craftsmen..?...forgot..

Morgan

> Nonsense!! the 21.821 drivers have been a big improvement on my GF2 Ultra
> in everything else. It's a F1 2001 problem.
> Iain

> > The planet of pathetic driver mismatches, I think -- why else would
> > you use Detonator drivers that are optimized for the GeForce3 with a
> > GeForce2 Ultra?

> > Alternate answer: The plant of people who have not yet learned the
> > advantages of running F1 2001 in windowed mode if you're using newer
> > Detonator drivers . . .

> > :-p

> > ;-)

> > -- JB

> > On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 19:26:29 GMT, "Thomas Heineman"

> > >What planet are you from?

> > >Thomas

meddelandet

> > >> Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> > >> 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds
> like a
> > >> scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> > >> 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and
> overly

> res,
> > >> EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and
> feels
> > >> like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> > >> 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite
trying
> > >> several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The
> back
> > >end
> > >> comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description
just
> > >> causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the
car
> at
> > >> all.

> > >> 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering
over
> > >any
> > >> button.

> > >> 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars
> finish
> > >> each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to
race
> in
> > >> any way competitively for previous reasons.

> > >> 6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> > >> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there
is
> no
> > >> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF
from
> > >F1CS.

> > >> 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make
it
> > >> unplayable.

> > >> I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere,
as
> I
> > >> have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
> > >things
> > >> don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> > >> GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing
to
> > >worry
> > >> about from F1 2001.

> > >> Shall we wait for the patch?

> > >> (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb
RAM)

> > >> Iain

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:51:28

Sorry, you're very wrong there. The 21.81 (not 20.xx) drivers were a big
leap forward from the 12.90s I was previously using on everything except F1
2001.
Iain

> > Jeez, nVidea seems to have done a pretty good job of getting Detonators
to
> > work w. everything from ancient TNTs to GF3s; dozens of cards in all.
The
> > very latest drivers are meant more for the GF3s, so small wonder the
older
> > cards aren't happy. Big deal. I just want my video card to work; I
don't
> > care with which drivers.

> As far as I can tell he downgraded his drivers when he installed the 20.XX
> versions, being a completely pointless exercise in itself!

> cheers
> John

by **Simon Brow** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 08:32:09

That's remarkably reminiscent of another game. What was it called again?
Oh yes, F1 2000.

> Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds like a
> scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and overly

> EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and feels
> like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite trying
> several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The back
end
> comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description just
> causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the car at
> all.

> 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering over
any
> button.

> 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars finish
> each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to race in
> any way competitively for previous reasons.

> 6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is no
> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
F1CS.

> 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
> unplayable.

> I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, as I
> have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
things
> don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
worry
> about from F1 2001.

> Shall we wait for the patch?

> (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb RAM)

> Iain

by **Alan Bernard** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 08:48:14

You must be a GPL fanatic. Everything you've complained about, except one
thing, has anything to do with the game being good or not so good.

Irrlevant.

> 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and overly

> EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and feels
> like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

Disagree but still not relevant, as long as frame rate doesn't affect the
play of the game.

Though I disagree with this at least this one thing is actually to the game
itself.

Sound is irrating, I agree. But this, again, is irrelevant.

Disagree-- can't see how any of the above reasons could be the reason for
your being "unable to race in any way competitive", except for reason three.

Try going to 16 bit. The mirrors work for me, just fine, though not at 32
bit.

Who cares.

That's probably your system's set up.

Seeing that it appears that you are wanting desparately to find things wrong
with F1 2001-- my suspicion is that you're a GPL snob-- I have no doubt that
you will find things. Oveall, I think most of your complaints have nothing
to do with the way the game plays as a simulation.

A GPL snob with a little bit of anti-EA peppered in?

I'm running on XP also. I've not noticed what you've noticed, especially
with the graphic's gliches.

Alanb

by **Todd Sorense** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 09:50:24

That's really too bad since F1 2000 Cs is not all that great. Here's hoping
for 2002!

Todd

> Greg
> I had big hopes for this sim, but give me F1 2000 CS any day.
> Iain

> > I am quite surprised at this. I also saw F1 2001 at the SAP tent
> > at the USGP. It looked essentially the same as F1 2000 CS. The
> > framerate was fine and there were no issues like this at all.

> > --

> > > Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> > > 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds
like
> a
> > > scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> > > 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and
> overly

> res,
> > > EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and
> feels
> > > like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> > > 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite
trying
> > > several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The
back
> > end
> > > comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description
just
> > > causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the
car
> at
> > > all.

> > > 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering
over
> > any
> > > button.

> > > 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars
> finish
> > > each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to
race
> in
> > > any way competitively for previous reasons.

> > > 6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> > > 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is
> no
> > > excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
> > F1CS.

> > > 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
> > > unplayable.

> > > I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere,
as
> I
> > > have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
> > things
> > > don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> > > GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
> > worry
> > > about from F1 2001.

> > > Shall we wait for the patch?

> > > (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb
RAM)

> > > Iain

by **Dave Ryerso** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 10:02:49

On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 23:48:14 GMT, "Alan Bernardo"

>> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is no
>> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
>F1CS.

>Who cares.

Me! for one. You ever try a racing game on a FFB wheel when there are
no forces? No? Well, it sucks - to put it bluntly.

by **Haqsa** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 10:20:12

> On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 23:48:14 GMT, "Alan Bernardo"

> >> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there
is no
> >> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF
from
> >F1CS.

> >Who cares.

> Me! for one. You ever try a racing game on a FFB wheel when there are
> no forces? No? Well, it sucks - to put it bluntly.

I have FF turned off in SCGT and F1CS2K because it is so bad in those
games. All I could ever feel were bumps and collisions, there was no
centering feel, no change in stiffness due to weight transfer, no loss
of aligning torque when you exceed the traction limit. In short, none
of the things that make FF worth having in a racing sim. So I for one
am glad to see that the crappy FF will not be back in F1 2001. The fact
that they didn't put FF in the PC release means we won't get it until
they are satisfied that they have done it right. As for using an FF
wheel without forces, it's very simple to do. In those games I have
turned on a centering spring in the wheel's profiling software, and they
work just fine that way. Plus unlike a non-FF wheel you can tune the
stiffness to your liking. Perhaps your wheel has that capability too.

by **Stephen Smit** » Sun, 07 Oct 2001 10:45:35

Calm down, John; Thomas there wasn't asking what planet *you* were from--I
think his comments were directed at Iain. I don't think Iain has had much
experience with GPL and his GF2/21.xx Det combo; a lot of people including
me had trouble there and went back to the earlier drivers. He seems miffed
at the VERY IDEA that the latest drivers aren't giving him the best
performance.

The other point seems to be that he'd rather have bad FF than no feedback at
all. One of the F1 2001 designers seemed acutely embarrassed at the FF
implementation in F1CS and said he'd rather have no FF than bad FF,
promising a patch to solve the problem later on. Of course, a lot of people
are still waiting for the patch for F1 2000. The only FF I've seen (or
felt) that does anything to help you drive the car is Papy's (in GPL & N4),
altho the implementation in Mobil 1 Rally Championship was near-great--I
loved how *all* feeling went away when you were skating across a patch of
the dreaded Black Ice (no, not the firewall).

--Steve

----- Original Message -----

Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: F1 2001 - first impressions!?!

> For better video performance, try running in windowed mode -- set the
> parameter in the config.ini file to "1" (instead of "0"). This is a
> known problem with newer Detonator drivers.

> You might also want to visit the High Gear forums -- a LOT of people
> over there disagree with most of your assessment, it seems, including
> a lot of F1RC, GP3, and GPL fans.

> -- JB

> On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 18:08:04 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"

> >Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> >1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds like
a
> >scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> >2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and
overly

> >EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and feels
> >like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> >3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite trying
> >several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The back
end
> >comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description just
> >causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the car
at
> >all.

> >4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering over
any
> >button.

> >5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars finish
> >each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to race
in
> >any way competitively for previous reasons.

> >6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> >7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is no
> >excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
F1CS.

> >8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
> >unplayable.

> >I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, as I
> >have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
things
> >don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> >GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
worry
> >about from F1 2001.

> >Shall we wait for the patch?

> >(BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb RAM)

> >Iain

> The planet of pathetic driver mismatches, I think -- why else would
> you use Detonator drivers that are optimized for the GeForce3 with a
> GeForce2 Ultra?

> Alternate answer: The plant of people who have not yet learned the
> advantages of running F1 2001 in windowed mode if you're using newer
> Detonator drivers . . .

> :-p

> ;-)

> -- JB

> On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 19:26:29 GMT, "Thomas Heineman"

> >What planet are you from?

> >Thomas

> >> Well, I've just got F1 2001 and my first impressions are very poor!

> >> 1) Sound is terrible. Tyre sounds are like static, skidding sounds
like a
> >> scraping sound, engines sound like demented bees!

> >> 2) Graphics are very poor. Looks like a cartoon - very unreal and
overly

res,
> >> EXCEPT for the fact that every 5 seconds or so everything looks and
feels
> >> like travelling through treacle for 1-2 seconds.

> >> 3) Control seems to be almost nil. My Ferrari FF wheel despite trying
> >> several settings just doesn't seem to be able to drive the car! The
back
> >end
> >> comes round if you breath too hard, and braking of any description just
> >> causes instability. There is no feeling of being in touch with the car
at
> >> all.

> >> 4) Menus have a very irritating sound which comes up when hovering over
> >any
> >> button.

> >> 5) Having tried about 10 quick races at Imola, only about 4-5 cars
finish
> >> each time. Can't give any assessment of AI because I am unable to race
in
> >> any way competitively for previous reasons.

> >> 6) Mirrors don't work at all!

> >> 7) There is no FF! Despite the deadlines no doubt set by EA, there is
no
> >> excuse for this. They could have used the (less than perfect) FF from
> >F1CS.

> >> 8) Twice now, the graphics corrupt at the start of a race, and make it
> >> unplayable.

> >> I really hope that there is something fundamentally wrong somewhere, as
I
> >> have only scratched the surface. God knows what else I'll find. If
> >things
> >> don't improve in a couple of days, then it's going back.

> >> GP3 2000, F1RC (despite some AI probs) and even F12KCS have nothing to
> >worry
> >> about from F1 2001.

> >> Shall we wait for the patch?

> >> (BTW I'm running on 1.4 Athlon, GF2 Ultra, 21.80 Dets on XP, 512Mb RAM)

> >> Iain