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TSW and non papy games..

David Ciemn

TSW and non papy games..

by David Ciemn » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 09:54:05

Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB adapter.
Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar heat and a
few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of the games
read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks in NHeat.
Can't get those darn pedals to work?

any thoughts?

DC

Lynn Hughe

TSW and non papy games..

by Lynn Hughe » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 10:33:15

Did you calibrate it correctly in the start/settings/control panel area of
windows?


Dave Henri

TSW and non papy games..

by Dave Henri » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 11:18:57

  Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so IF you
have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control panel, NH
should have no problem seeing them.
  (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you cliking on
the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
dave henrie

David Ciemn

TSW and non papy games..

by David Ciemn » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 12:00:05

Yes Lynn..it is calibrated correctly.

DC


> Did you calibrate it correctly in the start/settings/control panel area of
> windows?



> > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB adapter.
> > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar heat and
a
> > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of the
games
> > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks in
> NHeat.
> > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > any thoughts?

> > DC

David Ciemn

TSW and non papy games..

by David Ciemn » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 12:05:38

wheel is set up properly in windows. Click on the black oval in game, asks
me to depress throttle...dead. Same with brake.

DC

>   Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so IF you
> have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control panel, NH
> should have no problem seeing them.
>   (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you cliking on
> the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
> dave henrie


> > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB adapter.
> > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar heat and
a
> > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of the
games
> > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks in
> NHeat.
> > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > any thoughts?

> > DC

floyd

TSW and non papy games..

by floyd » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 13:25:44

I haven't played Heat in ages but maybe it only accepts combined axis pedals
and your's are set to split axis?  Just a thought.


Dave Henri

TSW and non papy games..

by Dave Henri » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 13:40:19

  I'll check with out league and see if anyone there uses TSW pedals...
dave henrie


> wheel is set up properly in windows. Click on the black oval in game, asks
> me to depress throttle...dead. Same with brake.

> DC


> >   Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so IF
you
> > have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control panel,
NH
> > should have no problem seeing them.
> >   (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you cliking
on
> > the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
> > dave henrie


> > > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB
adapter.
> > > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar heat
and
> a
> > > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of the
> games
> > > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks in
> > NHeat.
> > > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > > any thoughts?

> > > DC

David Ciemn

TSW and non papy games..

by David Ciemn » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 19:33:17

thanks Dave..your always in here helping out. TSW wheel also. TEI states the
only thing with some games is the combined axis must be used. I have tried
everything though.

DC


>   I'll check with out league and see if anyone there uses TSW pedals...
> dave henrie



> > wheel is set up properly in windows. Click on the black oval in game,
asks
> > me to depress throttle...dead. Same with brake.

> > DC


> > >   Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so IF
> you
> > > have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control
panel,
> NH
> > > should have no problem seeing them.
> > >   (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you
cliking
> on
> > > the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
> > > dave henrie


> > > > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB
> adapter.
> > > > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar heat
> and
> > a
> > > > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of the
> > games
> > > > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks
in
> > > NHeat.
> > > > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > > > any thoughts?

> > > > DC

Glen Pittma

TSW and non papy games..

by Glen Pittma » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 21:16:26

I remember using my clutch pedal with Heat, so I know it accepts split axis.
I am using a TSW2 and have had no troubles outside of F1-2001 before I
purchased the USB adapter.  Since then, everything has worked fine, but I
haven't tried the Heat game in ages.


> I haven't played Heat in ages but maybe it only accepts combined axis
pedals
> and your's are set to split axis?  Just a thought.



> > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB adapter.
> > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar heat and
a
> > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of the
games
> > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks in
> NHeat.
> > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > any thoughts?

> > DC

Dave Henri

TSW and non papy games..

by Dave Henri » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 22:28:50


   Yeah the results are NOT encouraging.  No TSW pedals but one guy had
Redline pedals and could not get them to work with split axis either.   I
think this is the reason Papyrus always included the generic driver, to
allow those wheels that don't use DX to work properly.  Kudos to Papy.
  Does that Rockfire adapter help in this area?  And...can you try a dual
boot setup?
dave henrie



> >   I'll check with out league and see if anyone there uses TSW pedals...
> > dave henrie



> > > wheel is set up properly in windows. Click on the black oval in game,
> asks
> > > me to depress throttle...dead. Same with brake.

> > > DC


> > > >   Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so
IF
> > you
> > > > have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control
> panel,
> > NH
> > > > should have no problem seeing them.
> > > >   (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you
> cliking
> > on
> > > > the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
> > > > dave henrie


> > > > > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB
> > adapter.
> > > > > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar
heat
> > and
> > > a
> > > > > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of
the
> > > games
> > > > > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks
> in
> > > > NHeat.
> > > > > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > > > > any thoughts?

> > > > > DC

David Ciemn

TSW and non papy games..

by David Ciemn » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 03:44:04

excuse the ignorance..."can you try a dual
boot setup?" please explain in regards to the game.

USB adapter is of no help with this problem.

Thanks again...

Dave "wish I could run a few truck races C.




> > thanks Dave..your always in here helping out. TSW wheel also. TEI states
> the
> > only thing with some games is the combined axis must be used. I have
tried
> > everything though.

> > DC

>    Yeah the results are NOT encouraging.  No TSW pedals but one guy had
> Redline pedals and could not get them to work with split axis either.   I
> think this is the reason Papyrus always included the generic driver, to
> allow those wheels that don't use DX to work properly.  Kudos to Papy.
>   Does that Rockfire adapter help in this area?  And...can you try a dual
> boot setup?
> dave henrie



> > >   I'll check with out league and see if anyone there uses TSW
pedals...
> > > dave henrie



> > > > wheel is set up properly in windows. Click on the black oval in
game,
> > asks
> > > > me to depress throttle...dead. Same with brake.

> > > > DC


> > > > >   Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so
> IF
> > > you
> > > > > have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control
> > panel,
> > > NH
> > > > > should have no problem seeing them.
> > > > >   (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you
> > cliking
> > > on
> > > > > the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
> > > > > dave henrie


> > > > > > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB
> > > adapter.
> > > > > > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar
> heat
> > > and
> > > > a
> > > > > > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of
> the
> > > > games
> > > > > > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the
trucks
> > in
> > > > > NHeat.
> > > > > > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > > > > > any thoughts?

> > > > > > DC

Dave Henri

TSW and non papy games..

by Dave Henri » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 04:19:21


  Ok lets back up a little.  What operating system do you have?  (win98?
XP?)  Can you choose between single axis and/or split axis on your pedals?
  I was assuming you had XP so when I referred to dual booting, that meant
having BOTH win98 and XP installed on your system.(different partions of the
harddrive)  But I better be sure first.
dave henrie

Nigel Nichol

TSW and non papy games..

by Nigel Nichol » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 02:26:10

I am Redline pedals and I agree with Dave about some games refusing work in
split axis mode. EA Sports F12001 is one of them.  Doesn't matter what
driver I use. Custom, is the only one that tends to work at all well.
However with all Papy games (Indy1 to N2002)  I can have them set to dual or
single with either the Generic or DirectX  drivers and they work perfectly
as expected.  Viper Racing was another that work very well. GP2 did, GPL
does, clutch and all. Screamer 2 work very well.  Even Racer in it's infancy
works very well in Split axis mode. These games can be run either through
the game port or the Rockfire USB adapter, it doesn't matter. The Rockfire
just make all axis very stable.
So in defence of my RRC pedals that I make I beleive it is the controller
coding that is at fault with the odd game. Windows "sees" the RRC in any
mode I wish to set them in. They calibrate correctly and tests well in
Windows yet go to F12001, select the Windows controller and , bam , nothing
works right.  Run them as a custom unit and all is well bar they have to be
in single axis mode.  EA's V8 Challenge is also a little dodgy to setup.
As far as I'm concern some sims are way over complicated in their controller
setups.  Papy simple have it right.

Cya
Nigel
Redline Race Controls
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~lakewood/Redline2.htm




> > thanks Dave..your always in here helping out. TSW wheel also. TEI states
> the
> > only thing with some games is the combined axis must be used. I have
tried
> > everything though.

> > DC

>    Yeah the results are NOT encouraging.  No TSW pedals but one guy had
> Redline pedals and could not get them to work with split axis either.   I
> think this is the reason Papyrus always included the generic driver, to
> allow those wheels that don't use DX to work properly.  Kudos to Papy.
>   Does that Rockfire adapter help in this area?  And...can you try a dual
> boot setup?
> dave henrie



> > >   I'll check with out league and see if anyone there uses TSW
pedals...
> > > dave henrie



> > > > wheel is set up properly in windows. Click on the black oval in
game,
> > asks
> > > > me to depress throttle...dead. Same with brake.

> > > > DC


> > > > >   Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so
> IF
> > > you
> > > > > have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control
> > panel,
> > > NH
> > > > > should have no problem seeing them.
> > > > >   (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you
> > cliking
> > > on
> > > > > the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
> > > > > dave henrie


> > > > > > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB
> > > adapter.
> > > > > > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar
> heat
> > > and
> > > > a
> > > > > > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of
> the
> > > > games
> > > > > > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the
trucks
> > in
> > > > > NHeat.
> > > > > > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > > > > > any thoughts?

> > > > > > DC

Philste

TSW and non papy games..

by Philste » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:25:57

Weird... I ran Heat, GPL, SCGT, Viper racing, Colin McRae 2 with both my
old TSW 2 and new TSW stock without any problems. I never got rid of
that damn dead zone in Nascar Heat, but that's another ball game.

What's your os?


> wheel is set up properly in windows. Click on the black oval in game, asks
> me to depress throttle...dead. Same with brake.

> DC


> >   Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so IF you
> > have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control panel, NH
> > should have no problem seeing them.
> >   (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you cliking on
> > the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
> > dave henrie


> > > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB adapter.
> > > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar heat and
> a
> > > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of the
> games
> > > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks in
> > NHeat.
> > > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > > any thoughts?

> > > DC

--
Philippe "Philster" Sergerie
David Ciemn

TSW and non papy games..

by David Ciemn » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 07:42:54

sorry for being vague..98se. Sorry Dave I kind of figured that is what you
meant. No just one OS.

Another funny thing has happened  since hooking up my TSW GT with the
converter and usb adapter. While in N2002, (usually while in tight traffic)
my controller goes dead. the car immediately loses power and all steering is
lost. After everyone swears at me I go to *** options (98se) and my
controller id has moved on it's own to id 2. I switch to id 1 and sometime
down the road it will happen again. this is very odd.  Off topic but I am
getting it off my chest.

F1 2001 my controller did not work but in f1 2002 it did. I know sometimes
it is the game's fault but I am getting kind of upset that I spent a ton of
money on a high end wheel and it seems to only work real well in papy games.
Maybe TEI has to make some changes down the road. I am just speculating. I
could have spent a lot less to get a lower quality wheel but my old logi wff
worked in every game I tried.

Oh well..thanks for you thoughts.

Dave C.


> Weird... I ran Heat, GPL, SCGT, Viper racing, Colin McRae 2 with both my
> old TSW 2 and new TSW stock without any problems. I never got rid of
> that damn dead zone in Nascar Heat, but that's another ball game.

> What's your os?


> > wheel is set up properly in windows. Click on the black oval in game,
asks
> > me to depress throttle...dead. Same with brake.

> > DC


> > >   Heat gets all it's joystick/wheel info directly from windows, so IF
you
> > > have your wheel properly setup in the *** controllers control
panel, NH
> > > should have no problem seeing them.
> > >   (just to be sure, when in Heat, in the controls page, are you
cliking on
> > > the black oval that displays the current setting for each axis?)
> > > dave henrie


> > > > Hi all..I can hook up my TSW via the gameport or through a USB
adapter.
> > > > Works great in papy games but I cannot get it to work in Nascar heat
and
> > a
> > > > few other games. the wheel itself is often recognized by none of the
> > games
> > > > read the pedals. Very puzzling IMO. I would like to run the trucks
in
> > > NHeat.
> > > > Can't get those darn pedals to work?

> > > > any thoughts?

> > > > DC

> --
> Philippe "Philster" Sergerie


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