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by **Mark Croasdal** » Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Make that Honda a straight six and I'm with you all the way. Having seen
what Papyrus have done with the physics in GPL and the amount of data for
the Nurburgring, I am beginning to see simulating the TT as a real
possibility at last.

Mark Croasdale

by **John Bod** » Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:00:00

FANTASTIC idea -- the one area lacking for motorcycle sims, though, is
a decent controller. Surely somebody like TSW or ECCI has thought of
what it would take to produce a decent motorcycle controller with
handlebars and a throttle grip instead of a throttle pedal. Bicycle
frames are soooo inexpensive that anybody with a little gumption
should be able to capture the market as a cottage industry, it would
seem.

Once the controllers become available, look for motorcycle sims to
take off the way driving sims are now.

-- JB

by **Neil Mouneimn** » Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:00:00

As long as it could fit in bevel-drive Ducatis, I'd be all over it. I doubt
anyone could get the sound right, but I'd like to see them try.

Neil M.

>All you guys go on about how dangerous the 66-67 F1 cars were. How about
>a sim for Old bikes like Manx Norton's. MV Augusta's and V4 Honda's etc.
>Imagine racing around the Isle of Man or the Nurburing on 2 inch wide
>tyres with drum brakes!

>And the sound's...pure music to a petrol head.

by **Hans** » Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:00:00

THE BIKE THAT BEAT EM ALL: Vincent Black Shadow.

nothin beat it till the 70's.

Charles Buscher
Guru_Hans
Team Guru NROS Racing sponsored by Guru *** Systems.
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>I think Eric is thinking of the 50cc twins such as the Suzuki and Honda of
>the era. They may have had 18 gears but the 250-6 didn't. The 50cc Honda
>parallel twin (four stroke) was revved to over 23,000 rpm in race
>conditions. A 125cc 5 cylinder was built but not developed because of
rule
>changes.

>Mark Croasdale

by **Mark C Dod** » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00

My dad has got some BBC records of bike just screaming down the straights at
famouse circuits during the 50's and 60's. Perfect for making smaples from.
Plus there are enough restored bikes still racing for them to get modern
samples.

> As long as it could fit in bevel-drive Ducatis, I'd be all over it. I doubt
> anyone could get the sound right, but I'd like to see them try.

> Neil M.

> >All you guys go on about how dangerous the 66-67 F1 cars were. How about
> >a sim for Old bikes like Manx Norton's. MV Augusta's and V4 Honda's etc.
> >Imagine racing around the Isle of Man or the Nurburing on 2 inch wide
> >tyres with drum brakes!

> >And the sound's...pure music to a petrol head.

by **Mark C Dod** » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00

The V6 MV Augusta raced recently at Phillip island by Giacomo Agostini could
be heard miles away. Can't remember what a straight 6 Honda sounds like.

Have you ever seen V4 Victory with Hailwood racing around the Isle Of Man on
the V4 Honda? One of the earliest, and best, examples of onboard camera work.

> Make that Honda a straight six and I'm with you all the way. Having seen
> what Papyrus have done with the physics in GPL and the amount of data for
> the Nurburgring, I am beginning to see simulating the TT as a real
> possibility at last.

> Mark Croasdale

by **Mark C Dod** » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00

And if the sim is realistic the British bike can leave big puddles of oil
whenever they stop for a few minutes!

> THE BIKE THAT BEAT EM ALL: Vincent Black Shadow.

> nothin beat it till the 70's.

> Charles Buscher
> Guru_Hans
> Team Guru NROS Racing sponsored by Guru *** Systems.
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/***.com
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> >I think Eric is thinking of the 50cc twins such as the Suzuki and Honda of
> >the era. They may have had 18 gears but the 250-6 didn't. The 50cc Honda
> >parallel twin (four stroke) was revved to over 23,000 rpm in race
> >conditions. A 125cc 5 cylinder was built but not developed because of
> rule
> >changes.

> >Mark Croasdale

by **Mike Buckle** » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00

that bike rocks, isn't there still a world record attempt going on with
2 Vincent Black Lightning engines strung together in a frame? seem to
recall something in the club mag about it a while ago.. but i'm a bit
out of touch now

--
Mike Buckley
Cotswold Pig Development Co Ltd
Tel: 44 (0)1472 371591 Fax: 44 (0)1472 371208

by **Micha** » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Great video, but I'm pretty sure that was "Yer Maun" Joey Dunlop riding
the V4 Honda.

I love his "this bit's really quack..." as the village walls streak past
at 180mph+

- Michael

by **Peter Wedla** » Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Hi Michael

Thanks for reminding me about V4 Victory, just had to sit down and watch it
again ! Joeys lap around Isle of Man is awesome...especially the quack bits !

Cheers
Pete

>> Have you ever seen V4 Victory with Hailwood racing around the Isle Of Man on
>> the V4 Honda? One of the earliest, and best, examples of onboard camera work.

>Great video, but I'm pretty sure that was "Yer Maun" Joey Dunlop riding
>the V4 Honda.

>I love his "this bit's really quack..." as the village walls streak past
>at 180mph+

>- Michael

by **Mark C Dod** » Wed, 14 Apr 1999 04:00:00

It was Joey. DUH....I watcheed another one produced by Duke marketing with Mike in
it and an onboard...can;t remember the name of it though.

> > Have you ever seen V4 Victory with Hailwood racing around the Isle Of Man on
> > the V4 Honda? One of the earliest, and best, examples of onboard camera work.

> Great video, but I'm pretty sure that was "Yer Maun" Joey Dunlop riding
> the V4 Honda.

> I love his "this bit's really quack..." as the village walls streak past
> at 180mph+

> - Michael

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