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RASCAR 100 at Dover

Phil Le

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Phil Le » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:09:00

We've just finished an excellent race at Dover.  Here is the result:

F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS
1 1 128 AchimT 127.364 100 57* 185 Running
2 5 6 Mitch_A -15.30 100 19 175 Running
3 7 307 Jan Verschueren -16.40 100 0 165 Running
4 3 22 Phil Lee -25.01 100 7 165 Running
5 6 49 ZZ Busch -2L 98 0 155 Running
6 8 12 epickett -2L 98 0 150 Running
7 4 17 DaveGF -3L 97 0 146 Running
8 2 07 Burd_Turglar -3L 97 17 147 Running  (aka BowtNetterToDo aka Ginger
Fletcher)
9 11 311 J_Pancoast -64L 36 0 138 Running

The full race summary is available here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

There were 2 caution periods.  The first came after 43 laps.  Everyone
pitted for tyres with Achim sent to the back of the longest line for an
unsafe pit exit.  The second catuion came out with 29 laps to go.  All the
leaders pitted except me.  I was in 4th position, the last car on the lead
lap, and decided to gamble on my tyres making it to the end.  Unfortunately
this proved to be the wrong decision.  I was passed a couple of laps after
the restart and dropped back quickly.

The race was excellent.  I particularly enjoyed a spell of very close racing
with Ginger and Mitch. Congrats to Achim on your win.

Phil Lee
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Phil Le

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Phil Le » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 08:10:39

Oops, posted last week's results.  Here are the real results:

http://www.racesimcentral.com/results/RASCAR/RAS_100_Dover_06Apr02.html

Phil Lee
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Joachim Trens

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Joachim Trens » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:48:13


...

Although I knew about this rule, I'd forgotten that I have to go to the
backstraight to rejoin. A stupid mistake. Did it better the 2nd time.

I wonder, is this rule the same at all tracks, or are there exceptions?

Achim

John Pancoas

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by John Pancoas » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:30:58

  Same for all in terms of their is a rule.  The SS you can merge before the
backstretch, but the key anywhere is until you here your spotter say merge,
don't.

-John




> ...
> > Everyone pitted for tyres with Achim sent to the back
> > of the longest line for an unsafe pit exit

> Although I knew about this rule, I'd forgotten that I have to go to the
> backstraight to rejoin. A stupid mistake. Did it better the 2nd time.

> I wonder, is this rule the same at all tracks, or are there exceptions?

> Achim

David G Fishe

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by David G Fishe » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 10:59:26


down a couple of laps as yellow comes out right afterward.


lap in second place. I weave all over the track and end up causing Jan to
bump me....race over.

That's three out of the five races ruined by screen freezes, two on the last
lap.

Now that my cry baby whining is over, :-) I want to say that the r.a.s.
races have been TREMENDOUS. Really excellent driving by everyone. I honestly
can't think of one moment in any race where I've been upset with another
driver or thought someone did something stupid or silly. Looking forward to
next week already.

Thanks Eldred for hosting.

David G Fisher


Richard

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Richard » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:03:00

I started in the pits. When you start in the pits, are you automatically
down a lap? I never could get that lap back.

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David G Fishe

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by David G Fishe » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:22:03

I don't know what happens there. Why did you start in the pits? I had to
start form the pits last week in the Bristol race when the "start" button
wouldn't turn green after warm up was finished.

David G Fisher



Dave Henri

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Dave Henri » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:27:29

  I'm not 100% sure, but starting in the pits means you either didn't finish
qualifying in time or didn't clik into the race itself in time...
dave henrie


> I don't know what happens there. Why did you start in the pits? I had to
> start form the pits last week in the Bristol race when the "start" button
> wouldn't turn green after warm up was finished.

> David G Fisher



> > I started in the pits. When you start in the pits, are you automatically
> > down a lap? I never could get that lap back.

> > --
> > Richard "ZZ" Busch

> > Member:
> > Screamers Racing League
> > GPL Rank + 22.059
> > MoGPL Rank + 369.86

> > http://www.ZZBusch.com
> > ----------------
> > Busch Motorsports:
> > Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward
> > -----------------
> > Busch Carpentry:
> > Plans? Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?
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Joachim Trens

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Joachim Trens » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:22:20

Thanks for this valuable info, John.

As you guys may have noticed I have little oval racing experience (I got
that status of 5 on SW's by winning few races against many), which is why
pitstops and similar aspects to me are close to unknown on oval type of
tracks. I've of course read the manual and kept an open eye on comments from
experienced oval racers, but that's just not the same as a good measure of
personal experience.

Achim


>   Same for all in terms of their is a rule.  The SS you can merge before
the
> backstretch, but the key anywhere is until you here your spotter say
merge,
> don't.

> -John





> > ...
> > > Everyone pitted for tyres with Achim sent to the back
> > > of the longest line for an unsafe pit exit

> > Although I knew about this rule, I'd forgotten that I have to go to the
> > backstraight to rejoin. A stupid mistake. Did it better the 2nd time.

> > I wonder, is this rule the same at all tracks, or are there exceptions?

> > Achim

Joachim Trens

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Joachim Trens » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:33:16

Hi Dave,

yes, that is true. However, it could IMO also be an indication that for some
reason, the datalink between your system and the host didn't work for a
moment, and the race was started before the two could re-establish proper
communication.

I wonder, could this also lead to the screen freezes David is experiencing?

Achim


>   I'm not 100% sure, but starting in the pits means you either didn't
finish
> qualifying in time or didn't clik into the race itself in time...
> dave henrie


> > I don't know what happens there. Why did you start in the pits? I had to
> > start form the pits last week in the Bristol race when the "start"
button
> > wouldn't turn green after warm up was finished.

> > David G Fisher



> > > I started in the pits. When you start in the pits, are you
automatically
> > > down a lap? I never could get that lap back.

> > > --
> > > Richard "ZZ" Busch

> > > Member:
> > > Screamers Racing League
> > > GPL Rank + 22.059
> > > MoGPL Rank + 369.86

> > > http://www.ZZBusch.com
> > > ----------------
> > > Busch Motorsports:
> > > Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward
> > > -----------------
> > > Busch Carpentry:
> > > Plans? Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?
> > > -----------------

Joachim Trens

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Joachim Trens » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 20:31:13

Hi Richard,

I am not sure this is the same on all tracks, but this issue existed already
in N4. I noticed it at Watkins Glen for example.

It is my impression that it happens on tracks where you don't cross the s/f
line when starting from the pits. The first lap that gets counted is the
first lap you do after crossing the s/f line the first time. If that line is
in a track location where you don't cross it when starting from the pits,
this 'out'lap isn't counted.

I think quite a few drivers must have reported this to Papy, and I was
surprised to see this in N2002 as well. From this fact I concluded that this
is obviously how it's supposed to be, i.e. how it's in real Nascar -
everyone starting from the pits is a lap down at certain tracks. Is that so?

Achim



David G Fishe

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by David G Fishe » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:02:52


I get them while off line too so that shouldn't be the cause.

David G Fisher

Richard

RASCAR 100 at Dover

by Richard » Mon, 08 Apr 2002 21:58:54

  I'm not 100% sure, but starting in the pits means you either didn't finish
qualifying in time or didn't click into the race itself in time...

I finished Qualifying, but had to get up from my wheel and maybe didn't push
the button early enough. I was up only 20 secs.
I'm just wondering why, when I saw the green flag fall and I was told to go,
I was a lap down?
Is it because I didn't do the pace lap?

--
Richard "ZZ" Busch

Member:
Screamers Racing League
GPL Rank + 22.059
MoGPL Rank + 369.86

http://www.ZZBusch.com
----------------
Busch Motorsports:
Remember racecar is racecar spelled backward
-----------------
Busch Carpentry:
Plans? Oh, you mean that napkin sketch?
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