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Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

Gaul

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Gaul » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00


> SOMEONE NEEDS TO WAKE UP, AND IT IS NOT JUST US.

Someone needs to hit their caps lock key, and its not me.
Vibbar Nar

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Vibbar Nar » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

     I find it interesting that Papy would make the Daytona tracks for
BOTH N3 and LEGENDS available to FAT WALLETS who may not give a second
hoot about their products at the actual track itself, but in the world
of SIM RACING, where WE have shown over the YEARS that we WILL and
HAVE IN FACT PURCHASED THEIR PRODUCTS EACH AND EVERY TIME THEY HAVE
BEEN INTROCUCED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE GET SNUBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     THIS IS AN OUTRAGE OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE!  In the m***sense,
putting the nonpaying individual BEFORE the CUSTOMER SHOWS A TOTAL
LACK OF RESPECT and I think we need to start to putting this in the
perspective.

     What would it hurt if they made THESE DISKS AVAILABLE TO US AS
WELL?         NOTHING, THAT IS WHAT.  It would cost VERY little to
produce extras for the SIM RACING PUBLIC (even to special order if
need be)  BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD NOT ONE PEEP ABOUT THAT FROM ANYONE.
ALL I HAVE HEARD IS THIS PIRACY ISSUE AND  HOGWASH.  IF THEY CAN ISSUE
THE TRACK OUT IF THE "GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS" THEY COULD MAKE THEM
AVAILABLE TO THE DEDICATED SIM-RACERS WHO HAVE SPENT HUNDREDS OF
DOLLARS ON THEIR PRODUCTS OVER THE YEARS AND SHOWN SUPPORT FOR THEM.

SOMEONE NEEDS TO WAKE UP, AND IT IS NOT JUST US.

G_Majo

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by G_Majo » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

lol, Hey think about the people who buy it actually stick it in the computer
and say "wow that is cool to race daytona, hell I think I will go to the
puter store and buy this Nascar 3"    Later on our unsuspecting redneck
loads the game and is ready to play..................."What in sams hell!

Walk Walke

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Walk Walke » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Please go out and find a clue. Once you have it report directly to me. Your
post indicates to me that you have NO CLUE about what's going on here. My
advice: sit back and read this newsgroup for A LONG TIME before you start
posting flames like this.

Thank you and have a nice day.

-/- Walk Walker
holder of a clue...


slopp

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by slopp » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I agree, do people no longer bother to listen before the open their mouths?
I have found tons and tons of answers here on this news group just by
reading - and, hey, what's this....most ng clients have search/find options
to make it easier.

Sure, if something is really not out there and you have made a valiant
effort to look, even if it was something out there last week but no more,
then I really think that is great. But if you just like to jump on and start
posting without regard to everyone else - well, it is like the guy who walks
into a conversation and starts spouting off stuff when he doesn't even know
what the others were talking about.

ANNOYING - but I should expect this from a lazy American who thinks they
should be handed everything on a silver spoon without working for it.

PS - did you ever consider (as pointed out in this here ng) that Papyrus has
no say in the matter? Then again, you are probably the same guy that pitches
a fit with the grocery store clerk because milk cost too much.

LYCOS.COM ROCKS


> Please go out and find a clue. Once you have it report directly to me.
Your
> post indicates to me that you have NO CLUE about what's going on here. My
> advice: sit back and read this newsgroup for A LONG TIME before you start
> posting flames like this.

> Thank you and have a nice day.

> -/- Walk Walker
> holder of a clue...



> >      I find it interesting that Papy would make the Daytona tracks for

Harry Row

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Harry Row » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

[ranting snipped - though understood ;^)

*** to Bill France Jr, et. al.

He is the culprit!

Regards,

Harry
Senior Product Engineer
Delphi Automotive Systems

Stif

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Stif » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Hey it is a free country (here in Canada anyway) nobody is forced to read
his rantings. If a guy wants to rant he has every right.
Al Stiff

> I agree, do people no longer bother to listen before the open their
mouths?
> I have found tons and tons of answers here on this news group just by
> reading - and, hey, what's this....most ng clients have search/find
options
> to make it easier.

> Sure, if something is really not out there and you have made a valiant
> effort to look, even if it was something out there last week but no more,
> then I really think that is great. But if you just like to jump on and
start
> posting without regard to everyone else - well, it is like the guy who
walks
> into a conversation and starts spouting off stuff when he doesn't even
know
> what the others were talking about.

> ANNOYING - but I should expect this from a lazy American who thinks they
> should be handed everything on a silver spoon without working for it.

> PS - did you ever consider (as pointed out in this here ng) that Papyrus
has
> no say in the matter? Then again, you are probably the same guy that
pitches
> a fit with the grocery store clerk because milk cost too much.

> LYCOS.COM ROCKS



> > Please go out and find a clue. Once you have it report directly to me.
> Your
> > post indicates to me that you have NO CLUE about what's going on here.
My
> > advice: sit back and read this newsgroup for A LONG TIME before you
start
> > posting flames like this.

> > Thank you and have a nice day.

> > -/- Walk Walker
> > holder of a clue...



> > >      I find it interesting that Papy would make the Daytona tracks for

rrevv

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by rrevv » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00


>ANNOYING - but I should expect this from a lazy American who thinks they
>should be handed everything on a silver spoon without working for it.

*plonk*

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BigDo

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by BigDo » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

This is getting kinda silly isn't it? Papy had a chance to do a demo for the
the owners of the track and they have to play by those owners rules. Would
you rather EA did it?

If you feel you are not getting your moneys worth from Papyrus products then
don't buy them.


BigDo

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by BigDo » Tue, 22 Feb 2000 04:00:00

As an un-lazy American who works his ass off, I don't appreciate that
remark. Where are you from?

<ka0..

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by <ka0.. » Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:00

He is obviously someone who has never met a middle class American.


Brit Gos

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Brit Gos » Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:00



> > > ANNOYING - but I should expect this from a lazy American who thinks
> they
> > > should be handed everything on a silver spoon without working for
> it.

Everything wouldn't fit on a spoon, silver or otherwise..... spoons are
small..... Sheesh... Even I... a lowly American knows that.....
Later,
Brian
Greg Cisk

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Greg Cisk » Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:00


Duh... Papy knew damn well that we would easily insert the
track into our Nascar3 installations. So all of your caps asside,
you are totally full of shit.

Um... IMHO :-)

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Kirk Lan

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Kirk Lan » Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:00:00

USA! USA! USA!

Without working for it???  And, where, may I ask, are you from?

I personally find it a poor move on Papy's part (though they may have been
blocked by the agreement) not to post the tracks on the net...so long-time
dedicated purchasers like myself (ICR1 and both track packs, N1 and the
track pack, ICR2, N2, N99, GPL, N3, NL, and likely anything in the future,
especially a GPL-based open-wheel sim (hey, even IRL would be OK, it could
be patched)) could download it.  Of course, it seems that they don't care
too much about the huge amount of people downloading it illegally (myself
included - it really should've been in N1) so BE THANKFUL FOR THAT...I
haven't heard of any sites being shut down (at least not yet) for posting
that stuff.  Oh well...this isn't my dream world...of course, if it was, my
'70 GMC pickup would have a blown 502 (No replacement for
displacement...about as American as it gets, no tiny over-head-cam 4-banger
***here) all of my PCs would be running 850 MHz Athlons (overclocked
faster of course) with GeForce video cards (and GPL would fly on them!), I'd
be playing GPL2-based ICR5, and Chevy would produce the 600+ hp prototype
ZL1 that Jon Moss cooked up....Car and Driver TV, watch it...  As it is, my
'70 GMC has a very mild gas-guzzlin 350, my PCs run a Celeron 450 (300a) and
a PII 466 (350) with a G200/V2 and a Rendition, I'm playing GPL and
(whenever money permits) Ferrari 355 Challenge at the arcade, and Chevy is
debating whether to produce the Camaro at all (tho I would rather have it
rest in peace than return as a castrated FWD wannabe...)

*end rant*  *sigh*

Guess I'll have to be content for what I've got...it's better than lots of
other people, poor chumps have to pay $4 a gallon elsewhere...

--
Kirk Lane


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I'm going MIA
Tonight I'm leaving
Going MIA
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Is better than being known"
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Buzz O'De

Daytona tracks and the dedicated PURCHASERS!!!!!!!!!

by Buzz O'De » Thu, 24 Feb 2000 04:00:00

F....O...

>      I find it interesting that Papy would make the Daytona tracks for
> BOTH N3 and LEGENDS available to FAT WALLETS who may not give a second
> hoot about their products at the actual track itself, but in the world
> of SIM RACING, where WE have shown over the YEARS that we WILL and
> HAVE IN FACT PURCHASED THEIR PRODUCTS EACH AND EVERY TIME THEY HAVE
> BEEN INTROCUCED TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, WE GET SNUBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>      THIS IS AN OUTRAGE OF THE HIGHEST DEGREE!  In the m***sense,
> putting the nonpaying individual BEFORE the CUSTOMER SHOWS A TOTAL
> LACK OF RESPECT and I think we need to start to putting this in the
> perspective.

>      What would it hurt if they made THESE DISKS AVAILABLE TO US AS
> WELL?         NOTHING, THAT IS WHAT.  It would cost VERY little to
> produce extras for the SIM RACING PUBLIC (even to special order if
> need be)  BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD NOT ONE PEEP ABOUT THAT FROM ANYONE.
> ALL I HAVE HEARD IS THIS PIRACY ISSUE AND  HOGWASH.  IF THEY CAN ISSUE
> THE TRACK OUT IF THE "GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS" THEY COULD MAKE THEM
> AVAILABLE TO THE DEDICATED SIM-RACERS WHO HAVE SPENT HUNDREDS OF
> DOLLARS ON THEIR PRODUCTS OVER THE YEARS AND SHOWN SUPPORT FOR THEM.

> SOMEONE NEEDS TO WAKE UP, AND IT IS NOT JUST US.


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