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by **dan_loren..** » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Okay, I know this is a dumb question because all new sims seem to
require state of the art computers nowadays but I was just wondering if
my computer has *any* chance of running Grand Prix 3 smoothly at
800*600 resolution. I noticed that the minimum computer is 266 mgz so I
doubt it. But anyway my computer specs :

PII 333 mgz with 128 MB memory
Voodoo 3 3000 AGP video card
Win 95

I must say that I *hate* choppy graphics on my sims so I'm really
wondering if there would be any way to have smooth 30FPS while keeping
decent grapics in the game at 800*600.

Hey, don't make fun of me too much guys I'm poor! ;-)

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by **jbo..** » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

It should ROCK on your system -- I've witnessed GP3 run on a TRULY
ancient Pentium Pro 200 machine in SOFTWARE mode (no hardware
acceleration), and it actually looked and played very nicely. People
with midrange machines (in the PII/K6 300+ range and 12 - 16 MB
graphics cards) should be just fine.

-- JB

> Okay, I know this is a dumb question because all new sims seem to
> require state of the art computers nowadays but I was just wondering
if
> my computer has *any* chance of running Grand Prix 3 smoothly at
> 800*600 resolution. I noticed that the minimum computer is 266 mgz so
I
> doubt it. But anyway my computer specs :

> PII 333 mgz with 128 MB memory
> Voodoo 3 3000 AGP video card
> Win 95

> I must say that I *hate* choppy graphics on my sims so I'm really
> wondering if there would be any way to have smooth 30FPS while keeping
> decent grapics in the game at 800*600.

> Hey, don't make fun of me too much guys I'm poor! ;-)

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by **Douglas Elliso** » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

But you're never gonna get 30 fps...it only goes up to 25 - same as GP2 etc!

> It should ROCK on your system -- I've witnessed GP3 run on a TRULY
> ancient Pentium Pro 200 machine in SOFTWARE mode (no hardware
> acceleration), and it actually looked and played very nicely. People
> with midrange machines (in the PII/K6 300+ range and 12 - 16 MB
> graphics cards) should be just fine.

> -- JB

> > Okay, I know this is a dumb question because all new sims seem to
> > require state of the art computers nowadays but I was just wondering
> if
> > my computer has *any* chance of running Grand Prix 3 smoothly at
> > 800*600 resolution. I noticed that the minimum computer is 266 mgz so
> I
> > doubt it. But anyway my computer specs :

> > PII 333 mgz with 128 MB memory
> > Voodoo 3 3000 AGP video card
> > Win 95

> > I must say that I *hate* choppy graphics on my sims so I'm really
> > wondering if there would be any way to have smooth 30FPS while keeping
> > decent grapics in the game at 800*600.

> > Hey, don't make fun of me too much guys I'm poor! ;-)

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by **jbo..** » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

And I believe the standard frame rate for motion pictures is 24 frames
per second, so GP3's 25 fps should be adequate, to say the least. Yes,
more is better, but beyond certain limits, the difference is not even
noticeable.

-- JB

> But you're never gonna get 30 fps...it only goes up to 25 - same as
GP2 etc!

> > It should ROCK on your system -- I've witnessed GP3 run on a TRULY
> > ancient Pentium Pro 200 machine in SOFTWARE mode (no hardware
> > acceleration), and it actually looked and played very nicely.
People
> > with midrange machines (in the PII/K6 300+ range and 12 - 16 MB
> > graphics cards) should be just fine.

> > -- JB

> > > Okay, I know this is a dumb question because all new sims seem to
> > > require state of the art computers nowadays but I was just
wondering
> > if
> > > my computer has *any* chance of running Grand Prix 3 smoothly at
> > > 800*600 resolution. I noticed that the minimum computer is 266
mgz so
> > I
> > > doubt it. But anyway my computer specs :

> > > PII 333 mgz with 128 MB memory
> > > Voodoo 3 3000 AGP video card
> > > Win 95

> > > I must say that I *hate* choppy graphics on my sims so I'm really
> > > wondering if there would be any way to have smooth 30FPS while
keeping
> > > decent grapics in the game at 800*600.

> > > Hey, don't make fun of me too much guys I'm poor! ;-)

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by **Greg Cisk** » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

So should any other game that is several years old.

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> Guido..

> > Okay, I know this is a dumb question because all new sims seem to
> > require state of the art computers nowadays but I was just wondering if
> > my computer has *any* chance of running Grand Prix 3 smoothly at
> > 800*600 resolution. I noticed that the minimum computer is 266 mgz so I
> > doubt it. But anyway my computer specs :

> > PII 333 mgz with 128 MB memory
> > Voodoo 3 3000 AGP video card
> > Win 95

> > I must say that I *hate* choppy graphics on my sims so I'm really
> > wondering if there would be any way to have smooth 30FPS while keeping
> > decent grapics in the game at 800*600.

> > Hey, don't make fun of me too much guys I'm poor! ;-)

> > --
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by **Guido Neuf??glis** » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I've got a PII, 233 Mhz and couldn't wait until friday so i downloaded the
the warez version. When the game starts it automatically sets up the games
for your hardware. It plays perfect!
Can't wait until friday to buy the game!

Guido..

by **Bendit** » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

>And I believe the standard frame rate for motion pictures is 24 frames
>per second, so GP3's 25 fps should be adequate, to say the least. Yes,
>more is better, but beyond certain limits, the difference is not even
>noticeable.

The most important thing is not getting below the 25 fps; it's keeping
it at a consistent 25 fps, even in traffic or at the start. I still think 25
fps is too low, as I think 24 fps for motion pictures is too low; you may
notice at the cinema when the camera pans things get blurry quickly (but
this might be due to other factors, too). GPL's 36 is much better, or any of
Ratbag's games. :)

Bendito;

by **ymenar** » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> > I've got a PII, 233 Mhz and couldn't wait until friday so i downloaded
the
> > the warez version. When the game starts it automatically sets up the
games
> > for your hardware. It plays perfect!

> So should any other game that is several years old.

Heheheheh nice one ;-D

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by **David Butte** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

<snip>

There was some complicated explanation here of this a while ago, but I
belive that in some circumstances UK films run at 25fps, and in others
at 24fps (possibly one is for TV; the other for cinema - I can't
remember offhand).

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by **jbo..** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> >And I believe the standard frame rate for motion pictures is 24
frames
> >per second, so GP3's 25 fps should be adequate, to say the least.
Yes,
> >more is better, but beyond certain limits, the difference is not even
> >noticeable.

> The most important thing is not getting below the 25 fps; it's
keeping
> it at a consistent 25 fps, even in traffic or at the start. I still
think 25
> fps is too low, as I think 24 fps for motion pictures is too low; you
may
> notice at the cinema when the camera pans things get blurry quickly
(but
> this might be due to other factors, too). GPL's 36 is much better, or
any of
> Ratbag's games. :)

> Bendito;

EXACTLY! More is better, but the key is stability -- you want a
CONSTANT frame rate most of all, with no surging or lagging. GPL is
much smoother at 36 fps than it is at 25 fps (I think it's noticeable,
but just barely), so I would have to agree with you on this point as
well. Ratbag's stuff is pretty much beyond compare, though!

;-)

Speaking of which, you wouldn't happen to be THE Bendito Mescalini,
would you??

:-D

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by **jbo..** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

> > I've got a PII, 233 Mhz and couldn't wait until friday so i
downloaded the
> > the warez version. When the game starts it automatically sets up
the games
> > for your hardware. It plays perfect!

> So should any other game that is several years old.

Aw, cut 'em some slack, Greg -- it's not like Crammond produced an IRL
game or anything!

;-)

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by **Bendit** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

>Speaking of which, you wouldn't happen to be THE Bendito Mescalini,
>would you??

'Tis I indeed! From Powerslide ace to lame GPL newbie. :)

Bendito;

by **Martin D. Pa** » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

(David Buttery) mangled uncounted electrons thus:

>>And I believe the standard frame rate for motion pictures is 24
>>frames per second
><snip>

>There was some complicated explanation here of this a while ago, but I
>belive that in some circumstances UK films run at 25fps, and in others
>at 24fps (possibly one is for TV; the other for cinema - I can't
>remember offhand).

Exactly. That's why made-for-cinema movies run shorter on TV
(discounting editorial cuts) than they do in the cinema...

Martin D. Pay
Sometime movie buff...

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