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The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

John Cal

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by John Cal » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
that #3 car...")

    John

Brian Fo

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Brian Fo » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00


> Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
> REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
> that #3 car...")

>     John

NO.

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When I die, I want to go peacefully, like my grandfather in his sleep,
not screaming like the other passengers in his car.

David Spark

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by David Spark » Sat, 14 Sep 1996 04:00:00


>Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
>REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
>that #3 car...")

>    John

NO. Papyrus has said multiple times, "No flipping cars".

What is this fascination with wrecks anyway? Go buy Need For Speed or one
of other arcade games if you want wrecks. Geez...

Dave (davids) Sparks
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Ron R.

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Ron R. » Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:00:00



>>Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
>>REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
>>that #3 car...")

>>    John
>NO. Papyrus has said multiple times, "No flipping cars".
>What is this fascination with wrecks anyway? Go buy Need For Speed or one
>of other arcade games if you want wrecks. Geez...

Of course if he's british he may have meant the same thing as "bleedin
wrecks" Uh, let me rephrase that..... No pun intended.
Ron R II

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Randy Byr

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Randy Byr » Sun, 15 Sep 1996 04:00:00



> > Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
> > REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
> > that #3 car...")

> >     John

> NO.

> --
> Brian Fox
>                        The Fox Den:  Nascar and ICR2
>                      http://www.4w.com/pages/fox AND/OR
>                    http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/1238

> When I die, I want to go peacefully, like my grandfather in his sleep,
> not screaming like the other passengers in his car.

The #3 car WILL be included in NASCAR2 :-) YES!!

Ty
<Ty's NASCAR Racing Page - http://web2.airmail.net/rbyrd >

enzo

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by enzo » Mon, 16 Sep 1996 04:00:00



> > Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
> > REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
> > that #3 car...")

You're not even going to see many tumbling crashes in real NASCAR
racing these days. The cars all use spoilers now that flip up whenever
the car ends up backwards and totally ruins any lift that may otherwise
lift the car up. I've personally not seen a flip since.
DDMJ

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by DDMJ » Mon, 16 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Ken Schrader 1995 Taladega. Bill Elliot 1996 Taladega. Man were they
airborne.

M

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by M » Mon, 16 Sep 1996 04:00:00




>> > Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
>> > REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
>> > that #3 car...")

>You're not even going to see many tumbling crashes in real NASCAR
>racing these days. The cars all use spoilers now that flip up whenever
>the car ends up backwards and totally ruins any lift that may otherwise
>lift the car up. I've personally not seen a flip since.

Kenny Schrader, Talladega, last year, when his teammate, Jeff Gordon,
nudged him comin' out of 2... Ricky Craven, Talladega, this year, when
he was nudged during that huge wreck, flipped over Martin into the
barrier fence, then came back down over 5 cars into the infield...
If a car gets sideways, then there is a distinct possibility that it
will flip regardless of the roof flaps, especially at Talladega

- Fresh md -

Darrin J. Redic

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Darrin J. Redic » Mon, 16 Sep 1996 04:00:00



> > Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
> > REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
> > that #3 car...")

> >     John

> NO.

That's too bad.  That REALLY should be included.  Are you listening
Papyrus/Sierra???
Mike Carrothe

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Mike Carrothe » Tue, 17 Sep 1996 04:00:00




>> > Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
>> > REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?
("Where's
>> > that #3 car...")

>You're not even going to see many tumbling crashes in real NASCAR
>racing these days. The cars all use spoilers now that flip up whenever
>the car ends up backwards and totally ruins any lift that may
otherwise
>lift the car up. I've personally not seen a flip since.

Don't watch much racing do you?

Mike

randall lee johns

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by randall lee johns » Tue, 17 Sep 1996 04:00:00




>> > Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
>> > REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
>> > that #3 car...")

>You're not even going to see many tumbling crashes in real NASCAR
>racing these days. The cars all use spoilers now that flip up whenever
>the car ends up backwards and totally ruins any lift that may otherwise
>lift the car up. I've personally not seen a flip since.

cough <<Taladega>> cough,  cough <<Ricky Craven>> cough
Kevin Bir

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Kevin Bir » Tue, 17 Sep 1996 04:00:00




>> > Okay, okay, we've heard all the hype about NASCAR 2.  But what we
>> > REALLY want to know is.... will there be flipping wrecks!?  ("Where's
>> > that #3 car...")

>You're not even going to see many tumbling crashes in real NASCAR
>racing these days. The cars all use spoilers now that flip up whenever
>the car ends up backwards and totally ruins any lift that may otherwise
>lift the car up. I've personally not seen a flip since.

Bill Elliot,   Rickey Craven.
Your Frien

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Your Frien » Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Enzo,

Your right about tumbling car crashes.  It is pretty apparent that the
responses you received were from people who are relatively  new to NASCAR.
I wonder if they know why NASCAR came up with roof flaps in the first
place.  I would bet you that they don't even know who the other drivers
refer to as Bumper.  I'll I can say is these boys need to study the history
of NASCAR before they make such uneducated comments.

TJ


Ron R.

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Ron R. » Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:00:00


>Wow, you guys came up with three 'flipping' wrecks in how many THOUSANDS
>of laps driven?  Fact is flips are VERY rare now and hardly deserving of
>the processor hogging calculations they would require.  Can you imagine
>how difficult it is to realistically model a three dimensionally spinning
>object being impacted at different directions and forces.  Even if they
>could make the flips realistic the game would slow to a crawl while the
>computer tried to determine how the car should react.  Ever notice the
>flipping cars in arcade games?  They don't act realistic at all, they
>simply bounce around some.  I think the majority of people are looking for
>realism when they buy this sim.  And short of a Cray I don't think Papyrus
>would be able to accurately or realistically portray flipping cars.  And
>so what if something that happens every once every 6,000 miles isn't
>included?  I hardly think sim fans our being cheated.

I see your point but isn't this like saying that because airplanes fly
millions of miles per 1 major crash that flight sims shouldn't have
crashes in them, or military flight sims have missle explosions since
the military flys way more safe training flights than wartime flights
in hostile areas.

Likewise, I don't feel cheated per se myself, I think it's just that
everyone wants sims to be as absolutely realistic as possible these
days. Due to what the fans percieve as the rapid advances in
technology they tend to feel that if it can realy happen then it
should be possible in the sim version, even if it does only come up 1
or 2  times during a season.

I would like to see it advance to the point that it could be included
without the assist of a hacker but until then I will enjoy the sim
either way as long as it improves on it's predecessors.

(I just hope next year it won't be called the Microsoft Million)

Ron R II

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Gunsling

The REAL NASCAR 2 Question....

by Gunsling » Wed, 18 Sep 1996 04:00:00

Wow, you guys came up with three 'flipping' wrecks in how many THOUSANDS
of laps driven?  Fact is flips are VERY rare now and hardly deserving of
the processor hogging calculations they would require.  Can you imagine
how difficult it is to realistically model a three dimensionally spinning
object being impacted at different directions and forces.  Even if they
could make the flips realistic the game would slow to a crawl while the
computer tried to determine how the car should react.  Ever notice the
flipping cars in arcade games?  They don't act realistic at all, they
simply bounce around some.  I think the majority of people are looking for
realism when they buy this sim.  And short of a Cray I don't think Papyrus
would be able to accurately or realistically portray flipping cars.  And
so what if something that happens every once every 6,000 miles isn't
included?  I hardly think sim fans our being cheated.


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