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Wheel/Pedals/DX5 Question

Trip

Wheel/Pedals/DX5 Question

by Trip » Fri, 05 Jun 1998 04:00:00


> Ok, here's the deal: I have a T2, but I hate the pedals on it - they are too
> close together and because they operate on the same axis, you can't brake and
> balanace the car with the gas siultaneously. So I get my CH pedals out and
> figure "This will be cool." But it isn't. DX5 will not recognize the setup as
> anything but a T2 w/o an adapter and then it will not recongnize the gas pedla
> because it is on another axis. I tried every conceivable combination in the
> custom setup - but to no avail, it either won't calibrate - or it tells me it
> is not connected - in fact only the T2 entry will even let me calibrate. It
> seems that the wheel is on axis 1 and the pedals are on 3 & 4. Does anyone out
> there know how to make this work? Or even better - does anyone know how to
> read/set the bits for the driver entry in the registry? TIA

Not certain if this will work, but it sounds like the problem is that
Win95 can't see the Y axis on stick 1, and thus thinks it's improperly
connected.

You might try leaving the T2 wheel connected to its own pedals as
normal, then plug the whole unit into the CH pedals and just keep the T2
pedals out of the way... Win95 might see that as a four axis four button
setup (wheel and T2 pedals as X and Y on stick1, and the CH pedals as
axis three and four)

I've used my GP1 and CH pedals together, and if I'm not mistaken, the
GP1 is electrically similar to the new style T2's...

Trips

Ronald Stoeh

Wheel/Pedals/DX5 Question

by Ronald Stoeh » Sat, 06 Jun 1998 04:00:00


> I wrote this for someone else with a similar problem. Sounds like you
> need to have joystick 1 y -axis connected. W95 does not like it when
> you skip an axis. That is, You need to have for a:
> Two axis controller..joy 1 x-axis and joy 1 y-axis
> Three axis controller........joy 1 x-axis, joy 1 y-axis and joy 2 x-axis
> Four axis controller..........all four axis connected.

This should go into the FAQ, shouldn't it? Michael?

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ronny

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Michael E. Carve

Wheel/Pedals/DX5 Question

by Michael E. Carve » Sun, 07 Jun 1998 04:00:00


% Ok, here's the deal: I have a T2, but I hate the pedals on it - they are too
% close together and because they operate on the same axis, you can't brake and
% balanace the car with the gas siultaneously. So I get my CH pedals out and
% figure "This will be cool." But it isn't. DX5 will not recognize the setup as
% anything but a T2 w/o an adapter and then it will not recongnize the gas pedla
% because it is on another axis. I tried every conceivable combination in the
% custom setup - but to no avail, it either won't calibrate - or it tells me it
% is not connected - in fact only the T2 entry will even let me calibrate. It
% seems that the wheel is on axis 1 and the pedals are on 3 & 4. Does anyone out
% there know how to make this work? Or even better - does anyone know how to
% read/set the bits for the driver entry in the registry? TIA

I am not really sure what is causing your problems.  I have read in the
past that some folks have been able to use their T2 (or GP1) and CH
pedals in combination.  

However, I do know that it is easy to confuse DirectX and from that
point on it may have a very hard time recognizing that a controller is
actually plugged in.  To get around this, I have been able to plug in a
simple joystick and set it up in the Control Panel and then I can get it
to recognize my NASCARPro setup.  You may want to keep switching back to
a simple joystick and then try a different selection for your T2/CH
setup.

It has been mentioned a few times here in r.a.s. that Win95 won't
recognize a controller if an axis is skipped.  I am not 100% sure that
this is true.  The original T1/T2's where shipped that skipped the Y
axis on joystick1.  While many Win95 programs wouldn't recognize the
unit, Win95 itself did.  This was why there was a need for an adaptor
(for the programs themselves, not Win95).

I assume you have your wheel plugged into the CH unit and the CH unit
plugged into your gameport.  Have your tried setting it up as a 3-axis
joystick with rudder?  Again you may have to disconnect your wheel/pedal
combo and get DirectX to recognize a simple joystick then swith back to
try some of the combos.  Do you have an adaptor with your T2?  You might
want to try using it in various combinations.

You also may want to try Thrustmaster's ProPanel applet
ftp://208.129.210.78/pub/library/calibration/propanelv11.exe
instead of DirectX's Game Controllers applet.

Use Thrustmaster's TMScope program
ftp://208.129.210.78/pub/library/calibration/tmscope.exe
and see what axis are read for what input in DOS.

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