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So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

Paul Malyn

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Paul Malyn » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Well?????

from one very depressed TNT2 owner, who hasn't been able to get GPL running
for a month.

Ed Ba

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Ed Ba » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:41:18 +1000,


Paul, why did you buy your TNT2 video card, knowing the situation
with GPL non-support, and the 'depression' you would have if it
didn't perform as you wished?

Just curious.

--
// email: rrevved at mindspring dot com

Paul Malyn

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Paul Malyn » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Ed (rrevved),

Because I saw both cards in action, and I was more impressed with the TNT2.
Plus the price! I could buy the Viper770 32mb for $319.00 or a V3 2000 with
16mb for $300.00. The 3dfx board prices in Australia are disgusting.

I honestly didn't think that I would have hassles running GPL. I knew there
was an openGL beta patch, which I thought would allow me to continue to play
GPL. And with 1.1 coming out, I figured that they would provide full support
for OpenGL or Direct3d. They put out a Beta patch so you would think that it
wouldn't remain beta forever.

Some people have no hassles running the game on TNT/TNT2 boards, but I'm not
having much luck. I've got a few ideas to try over the next few days so I'm
hopeing it'll work. The Nvidia 1.88 drivers definately gave me more
problems.

Have you heard any word on wether the 1.1 patch will have better support?


> On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 13:41:18 +1000,


> >Well?????

> >from one very depressed TNT2 owner, who hasn't been able to get GPL
running
> >for a month.

> Paul, why did you buy your TNT2 video card, knowing the situation
> with GPL non-support, and the 'depression' you would have if it
> didn't perform as you wished?

> Just curious.

> --
> // email: rrevved at mindspring dot com

Toni Lassi

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Toni Lassi » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

My advice: get a cheap Voodoo2 board from someone and throw it in.
That way you can run both D3D games with your new TNT2 and older
Glide-only games with the Voodoo2. The one good thing in V3 cards is
that they bring down the price of older V2s and Banshees.

Roland Ehnstr?

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Roland Ehnstr? » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I agree - with a PII350 (like mine) or something like it, a single V2 is
enough to get nice gfx and 36fps (except at the start, or when running 19
AI) in 800x600. You should be able to find V2's for under $100 now! :)

Ciaoooooo! ;)
-- Roland

G. Patric

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by G. Patric » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 19:01:39 +1000, "Paul Malynn"


>:Ed (rrevved),
>:
>:Because I saw both cards in action, and I was more impressed with the TNT2.
>:Plus the price! I could buy the Viper770 32mb for $319.00 or a V3 2000 with
>:16mb for $300.00. The 3dfx board prices in Australia are disgusting.
>:

Yikes! The TNT2 32meg is under $200 all over the net!
G. Patricks
Thom j

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Thom j » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Wow! a V3 2000 for $300.00!! Sorry to say but that is a "rip-off!"
buycom sells them for $94 US.. Sounds like pricing fixing to me in
Australia!? Bad new! Really bad!! How much do think the TNT2
Ultra will sell for down under.. $500+?? I feel this is bad business!
 Thom_j.


<snipped>

Matthias Fla

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Matthias Fla » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00



I suspect that there a several flavours of $ all over the World:
Canadian, Australian, Hongkong (?) and about 50+ others states ...

--
Matthias Flatt

Andrew MacPhers

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Andrew MacPhers » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

You're still being ripped off though. Even with UK tax at 17.5% we're only
paying 150ukp (about 225 USD) for a 3000...and that's a street price.
Maybe the antipodean V3's are supplied in a lead box or something, which
might account for the apparently vast shipping costs.

Andrew McP

Paul Malyn

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Paul Malyn » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

The Diamond Viper770 32 mb Ultra sells for $455.00 Australian, but there are
no stocks in this country yet because the factory can't supply the
Australian distributors, because of USA demand. 2 or 3 weeks to go.

Buy.com have a great price on stuff. When you convert it to Australian
dollars, it ends up being heaps cheaper......

The catch is they don't ship international orders................and CUSTOMS
duty of 22%


> Wow! a V3 2000 for $300.00!! Sorry to say but that is a "rip-off!"
> buycom sells them for $94 US.. Sounds like pricing fixing to me in
> Australia!? Bad new! Really bad!! How much do think the TNT2
> Ultra will sell for down under.. $500+?? I feel this is bad business!
>  Thom_j.



> > Ed (rrevved),

> > Because I saw both cards in action, and I was more impressed with the
> TNT2.
> > Plus the price! I could buy the Viper770 32mb for $319.00 or a V3 2000
> with
> > 16mb for $300.00. The 3dfx board prices in Australia are disgusting.
> <snipped>

Julian Taylo

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Julian Taylo » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Situation in NZ is just as bad - a V3 3000 was retailing for NZD 650 at a
computer city chain store. Thats USD 338. (We do have a Goods and Services
Tax of 12.5% which doesnt help -a tax that Australia is soon to be enjoying
too - heheh).
As people have said, there is little improvement over a voodoo2 to a v3 for
GPL, or even from a voodoo2 to sli - spend the money on a faster cpu or a
better wheel.
Yes its a shame that theres seems to be no online stores now that can offer
acceptable deals for International orders - many won't accept credit cards,
or only ship UPS or Fedex, and USD 50 plus is a bit steep for a 2 pound
video card. I purchased my CH Pedals from shopping.com and saved 40% on
retail price here, because they do ship US Parcel Post Air, but
unfortunately they are now not allowing international orders at present.
Julian

Byron Forbe

So is the 1.1 Patch going to have built in OpenGL support or not!!!!!!!

by Byron Forbe » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

 No.

> Well?????

> from one very depressed TNT2 owner, who hasn't been able to get GPL running
> for a month.


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