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xoc45

GPL fans

by xoc45 » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Sorry for my english, I hope it's understandable enough :)

You guys are funny .

How much posts we read each single day about someone who shits in his
pants cause he's too happy with his new lap record.

Each time this makes me laugh.

Do you guys race sometimes ? Or are you only "hotlapping" ?

Anyway that's not really a complaint, I just find this funny.
I'm happy if you love this. (seriously)

BUT when you are talking about GPL like you would talk about your
religion I find it outrageaous.

GPL is a game. A fun game yes...But it's not a religion or a god's
creation.

I have read some posts of people who are ACTUALLY HAPPY that GP3 is or
will not be better than GPL. That's so ridiculous.

Like you have to protect your game from a new threat (menace?). NOOO
don't even replace MY GPL.. No please no more progress , no more new
sims...LONG LIVE TO GPL. hehe

Anyway GP3 is not even concurrent...It's a modern F1 sim, with
pit-stop strategies, weather, etc... It's really not the same type of
game so no need to protect YOUR GPL from this newcomer.

Relax ;)

Simon Brow

GPL fans

by Simon Brow » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I love GPL and yet i've been defending GP3.  Also I wanted and expected GP3
to be fantastic, and I'm seriously dissapointed that it didn't reach my
expectations.  Also my expectation were nothing to do with how good or
otherwise GPL is, but rather based on the respect I had for the talents of
Geoff Crammond.
GP3 is a very good game, and lots of fun.
Check out vroc to see people actually racing GPL every day.
:)
G.Aitke

GPL fans

by G.Aitke » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hi xoc455 (silly name BTW)

GPL isn't a matter of life or death or religion...it's MUCH more
important than that ;0).

Every GPL fan would love GP3 to be as good, if not better, than GPL.

Cheers


> Sorry for my english, I hope it's understandable enough :)

> You guys are funny .

> How much posts we read each single day about someone who shits in his
> pants cause he's too happy with his new lap record.

> Each time this makes me laugh.

> Do you guys race sometimes ? Or are you only "hotlapping" ?

> Anyway that's not really a complaint, I just find this funny.
> I'm happy if you love this. (seriously)

> BUT when you are talking about GPL like you would talk about your
> religion I find it outrageaous.

> GPL is a game. A fun game yes...But it's not a religion or a god's
> creation.

> I have read some posts of people who are ACTUALLY HAPPY that GP3 is or
> will not be better than GPL. That's so ridiculous.

> Like you have to protect your game from a new threat (menace?). NOOO
> don't even replace MY GPL.. No please no more progress , no more new
> sims...LONG LIVE TO GPL. hehe

> Anyway GP3 is not even concurrent...It's a modern F1 sim, with
> pit-stop strategies, weather, etc... It's really not the same type of
> game so no need to protect YOUR GPL from this newcomer.

> Relax ;)

David Butte

GPL fans

by David Butte » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00


<snip>
<snip>

We get a lot worse than this from people who are supposed to have
English as their first language... :-)

<snip>

If you look at GPLRank, you'll see that a lot of people's fastest
laps are set during races. Not surprising, because of: 1)
slipstreaming, especially at Monza; and 2) the extra pressure, which
can help you round faster (or into a hedge, of course).

<snip>

Yep. IF a game comes along that I enjoy more, I'll play it more. But
GP3's hopes of being that game seem to be receding rapidly (I'll
still buy it, though - but from EB!). Looks like WSC is about to be
installed as the next "young pretender" to GPL's throne...

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -1.43)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really." (Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Alex Kihuran

GPL fans

by Alex Kihuran » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Don't embarass yourself. GPL just raised the bar and expectations MUCH
higher. I think most people here want something to beat GPL, and when it
doesn't, it disapoints them. Well it usually doesn't disapoint me, the only
games that come close and are going to come close to GPL is Viper Racing,
Nascar Heat, Nascar 4, and probably, WSC will surpass GPL. I think GP3 is
pretty good, like the road feel, but it's defidently no better than an
"average" sim like Dirt Track Racing, RallyMasters, or NFS PU. (I'm talking
physics wise BTW :)) Love the FF and AI though.

Thanks,
Alex

David Butte

GPL fans

by David Butte » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00


<snip>

Oh, come *on* - this NG is full of Americans - how many of them are
going to get *that* one? ;-)

--
David. (GPLRank handicap: -1.43)
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)

Tim Wheatle

GPL fans

by Tim Wheatle » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I feel the same, I must be one of the few who stil enjoys Sportscar GT and
TOCA2, hell I even had a blast on ICR2 the other night and it beat GPL for
overall enjoyment.


Jan Verschuere

GPL fans

by Jan Verschuere » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

No worries, just fine AFAIC.

No we're not, but that's a language issue, you mean ridiculous.... eh, no
comment. ;-)

Well, it does take a lot of effort to reach these barriers, especially if
GPL is your first sim. Some numbers are even for ever out of reach for some
people. Don't see myself doing a 1m27s at Monza, for example.

I smile too, because I relive the moment I crossed the same hurdle. I like
these messages very much.

We race all the time, sometimes the AI, but mostly eachother. Trouble is,
with the game being out so long, it takes a lot of practise to be
competitive online. Things like GPLRank lift the tedium of practising for
the online events.

Thank you, I hope you enjoy your game/sim of choice too.

We don't, it just seems that way. When you're passionate about a certain
subject you tend to sound more harsh and blinkered than you really are. I
think that's a good thing (sometimes I even go over the top on purpose to
provoke the other poster) as it drives home the point you're trying to make.
Newsgroup posting is intellectual warfare.

That last one is debatable, depending on what definition of "god" you happen
to be using. ;-))

Hmmm... in a sense I am happy my suspicions were confirmed and this
vindicates some of the flack I took for my opinions before we had any code
to go on, in another I would have been even more happy if I'd been totally
wrong so I would have a ground braking sim to buy and play on Friday.
Overall I'm sad as I feel a legend like Crammond owed it to himself to
produce a better game. I'm very disappointed he didn't.

Believe me, myself and all other GPL fans on RAS would like nothing better
than having another game of GPL quality or better. Not in the least because
I think it would spur Dave Keammer into making an even better one (if both
of my heroes fail me with future releases, I'll seriously consider***
up my helmet). Besides I think GPL does a good job of defending itself, it's
still around after nearly two years and tales like Bendito's first
experiences with the game lift my spirits.

Ah, the common mistake of associating the liking of a particular game with
it's subjectmatter. This may be the case for the casual racers (I have heard
people spurn NFS:PU because they don't like Porsches), but racing simulation
fans will drive anything that's properly simulated. It's all the same to us,
whether bikes, '67 GP cars or modern F1. Subjectmatter does not enter the
discussion of a game's merits.

Jan.
=---

Kevin Gavit

GPL fans

by Kevin Gavit » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Well, if you've any of my comments on the subject you'll know that I'm no
big fan of SCGT, and never was. It's still on my HD though and the recent
arrival of cars like the 917/K, 512, and mini keep it there.

I spend far more time with ICR2 though, and fire it up a least a couple of
times a week. It's a kick. I want an upgrade. I'd be happy if it were 'only'
a graphics upgrade.

Not for fifty bucks though. About twenty sounds right.

Juha Kallioin

GPL fans

by Juha Kallioin » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00



>Sorry for my english, I hope it's understandable enough :)

>You guys are funny .

>How much posts we read each single day about someone who shits in his
>pants cause he's too happy with his new lap record.

I'm a big fan of GPL and most of what makes GPL tick for me is that it
gives me a real feeling of achievement in many ways. The feeling can
come when I get a certain corner just right or catch a big slide or
better my time at some track.

No other car sim gives me this feeling, but I'm eagerly waiting for
something to come up that does.

 -Juha

--

J. P. Hovercraf

GPL fans

by J. P. Hovercraf » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Yeah, but it keeps us off the street. We'd be a lot more dangerous
there...8^).

J. P. Hovercraft


> Sorry for my english, I hope it's understandable enough :)

> You guys are funny .

> How much posts we read each single day about someone who shits in his
> pants cause he's too happy with his new lap record.

> Each time this makes me laugh.

> Do you guys race sometimes ? Or are you only "hotlapping" ?

> Anyway that's not really a complaint, I just find this funny.
> I'm happy if you love this. (seriously)

> BUT when you are talking about GPL like you would talk about your
> religion I find it outrageaous.

> GPL is a game. A fun game yes...But it's not a religion or a god's
> creation.

> I have read some posts of people who are ACTUALLY HAPPY that GP3 is or
> will not be better than GPL. That's so ridiculous.

> Like you have to protect your game from a new threat (menace?). NOOO
> don't even replace MY GPL.. No please no more progress , no more new
> sims...LONG LIVE TO GPL. hehe

> Anyway GP3 is not even concurrent...It's a modern F1 sim, with
> pit-stop strategies, weather, etc... It's really not the same type of
> game so no need to protect YOUR GPL from this newcomer.

> Relax ;)

Crystal Robbins

GPL fans

by Crystal Robbins » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Who says it is?!?!?!

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don hodgdo

GPL fans

by don hodgdo » Tue, 25 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Blasphemer! <g>

I guess you haven't seen this, although I think number 10 has been recinded.

<thanks to dave henrie>

-- The GPL Ten Commandments

1. Thou shalt not put any other sim before GPL.

2. Thou shalt condemn and denegrate any other sim that attempts to equal GPL
yet falls short.

3. Thou shalt "PLONK!" any heathen who fails to hear the word.

4. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife whilst driving GPL (too easy to
miss your braking points).

5. Thou shalt salt away a portion of your earnings so that thy FRAMERATE may
swell.

6. Thou shalt scan the TV listings for any mention of the movie Grand Prix.

7. Thou shalt fill your domicile with trappings of Loti and Ferrari.

8. Thou shalt strive to remember the names and faces of thy children.

9. Thou shalt strive to talk about words like Thrustmaster and
Force-Feedback with a straight face.

10. THOU SHALT NOT ATTEMPT TO RUN GPL WITH AN NVIDIA PRODUCT. NAY THOU SHALT
NOT BOTHER OR ANNOY OR NAG THOSE WHO PRATICE THE ART OF VOODOO WITH GPL AND
THOU SHALT NOT WHINEST WHEN YOUR MIRRORS STUTTER AND YOUR FRAMERATE DOESN'T
SWELLETH.

don

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rik anthra

GPL fans

by rik anthra » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I Fart in your general direction.
.


Graeme Nas

GPL fans

by Graeme Nas » Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I challenge you to find any posts that actually say that. :-)

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Cheers!
Graeme Nash


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