rec.autos.simulators

F1 Racing Championship

Christian R

F1 Racing Championship

by Christian R » Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:26:46

Hi,

I thought I might give this game another try on my computer.
I had some grapical problems under Win98SE and Geforce 2MX
when I bought it last year.

Does anyone know if there is a patch available for this game
and where. Ubisoft does not seem to care much for the
further development.

Thanks

Chris

Ashley McConnel

F1 Racing Championship

by Ashley McConnel » Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:31:44

Don';t open that wound again ;)

Nope, they promised and promised it was coming out in a "few weeks", it
never happened unfortunately.

All the best,
Ash

http://www.siroccoracing.com

Christian R

F1 Racing Championship

by Christian R » Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:41:00

I am sorry to have trapped into that.
I will not mention this game again, and also not play...
Still a waste of money and time...

Thanks

Chris


>> Does anyone know if there is a patch available for this game
>> and where. Ubisoft does not seem to care much for the
>> further development.

> Don';t open that wound again ;)

> Nope, they promised and promised it was coming out in a "few weeks", it
> never happened unfortunately.

> All the best,
> Ash

> http://www.siroccoracing.com

Txl

F1 Racing Championship

by Txl » Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:03:40

no patch as of yet but still VERY good game, I enjoy it MUCH more than
F12001 especially with this SHITTY controller setup they have done in
F12001, didn't try the Gt mod yet....



lane

F1 Racing Championship

by lane » Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:24:11


Gee, I look at your email address and can't help but think you have some
sort of bias towards F1RC because it is done by a French company. F12001
makes F1RC look like an arcade game. No controller issues here either and it
has the best FFB of any racing sim on today's market. Ubisoft thinks FFB is
when you can feel the rumble strips and nothing else.
Face it, Ubisoft screwed the customer royally on this title and I won't be
bying F1RC2 because of it, no matter how good it might be.

Stephen F

F1 Racing Championship

by Stephen F » Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:41:09


F1-2001 had no problems recognising all the crazy controllers and axes I
threw at it.  I found the controller setup to be intuitive and simple and I
was up and running in less than two minutes.

Stephen

Andre Warrin

F1 Racing Championship

by Andre Warrin » Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:01:18

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:41:09 +0100, "Stephen F."




>> no patch as of yet but still VERY good game, I enjoy it MUCH more than
>> F12001 especially with this SHITTY controller setup they have done in
>> F12001, didn't try the Gt mod yet....

>F1-2001 had no problems recognising all the crazy controllers and axes I
>threw at it.  I found the controller setup to be intuitive and simple and I
>was up and running in less than two minutes.

>Stephen

The controller setup IS very shitty. F1 2001 was the first one that
brought a discussion on RAS what the terms used in the controller
menus actually mean, the FF settings are unclear (settings that work
for one guy don't work for another guy with exact the same setup) and
I, as do many more people, still have a major pedal deadzone in F1
2001 that I can't get rid of.
And yes, I do know a thing or 2 about controller setup.

Look at the number of posts on the High Gear forums about F1 2001
controller problems - controller setup in F1 2001 IS SHITTY!

I'm ok now, thanks :)

Andre

ymenar

F1 Racing Championship

by ymenar » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 01:24:43


> Does anyone know if there is a patch available for this game
> and where. Ubisoft does not seem to care much for the
> further development.

You answered your own question.  :) :(

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://www.ymenard.8m.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Iain Mackenzi

F1 Racing Championship

by Iain Mackenzi » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 04:24:41

As we've discussed many times before, most people don't have a problem in my
experience. Some people do however and that is a shame.
The 'terms' used in the menu are totally obvious with the exception of
the -100 to +100 strength, and even that is a simple case of try +ve setting
and if it doesn't work for you, then try the -ve. Not exactly rocket science
is it?
The only other settings is a value between low and full.  Not tricky either
I would have thought. Look at the messing around needed in the GPL ff
settings, and the myriad of text that has been written around that shroud of
mystery.
Iain


> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:41:09 +0100, "Stephen F."



> >> no patch as of yet but still VERY good game, I enjoy it MUCH more than
> >> F12001 especially with this SHITTY controller setup they have done in
> >> F12001, didn't try the Gt mod yet....

> >F1-2001 had no problems recognising all the crazy controllers and axes I
> >threw at it.  I found the controller setup to be intuitive and simple and
I
> >was up and running in less than two minutes.

> >Stephen

> The controller setup IS very shitty. F1 2001 was the first one that
> brought a discussion on RAS what the terms used in the controller
> menus actually mean, the FF settings are unclear (settings that work
> for one guy don't work for another guy with exact the same setup) and
> I, as do many more people, still have a major pedal deadzone in F1
> 2001 that I can't get rid of.
> And yes, I do know a thing or 2 about controller setup.

> Look at the number of posts on the High Gear forums about F1 2001
> controller problems - controller setup in F1 2001 IS SHITTY!

> I'm ok now, thanks :)

> Andre

Andre Warring

F1 Racing Championship

by Andre Warring » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:04:14

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:24:41 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie"


>As we've discussed many times before, most people don't have a problem in my
>experience. Some people do however and that is a shame.

I do not know how many people have problems, but I read way too much
posts here and on High Gear from people having all kinds of controller
problems. I believe DGF has the deadzone problem too?

Yes it's so simple. I've spend HOURS on messing with all the different
ff settings, and never got the results I wanted. I read that the Momo
wheel needed a negative force (discussions about the value are still
being discussed) but now someone recommends me to use a positive value
with the Momo.
Guess what, with both settings my ff is shitty, but I don't know if
that is because of the ve setting or because of 1 of all the other ff
settings.

I have allways said that the ff in GPL is VERY tricky to get right.
But GPL is three years old, ff was quite new at the time, and once
setup correctly GPL still offers one of the best ff.

An example: Tonight I installed N2002. The controller setup took me
LESS than a minute, and it worked PERFECT immediately, including the
fantastic ff.
It's cool that F1 2001 has so many options, but how come Papy games
work so good right out of the box and other games need 2000 settings
before it works right?

My former post sounded a little bit pissed, but I am, because after
all these discussions and all this experimenting, I still can't get
the ff right and I can't get rid of the deadzone. If I was the only
one who had this problem I wouldn't complain, but since 'many more'
people have these problems, I will not accept a statement that F1 2001
has a 'simple and efficient' controller setup :)

Andre

David G Fishe

F1 Racing Championship

by David G Fishe » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 06:55:44


> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 19:24:41 -0000, "Iain Mackenzie"

> >As we've discussed many times before, most people don't have a problem in
my
> >experience. Some people do however and that is a shame.

> I do not know how many people have problems, but I read way too much
> posts here and on High Gear from people having all kinds of controller
> problems. I believe DGF has the deadzone problem too?

Yes. FF is great but the only way to get rid of the dead zone I have with my
Ferrari wheel and XP is to use single axis. I know it isn't a great
solution, but it's a hell of a lot better than the big dead zone. Did you
try this?

Forget trying to edit all the settings manually. Those aren't going to help
at all if it's a problem between the drivers you are using with your wheel,
and the game. Ian and I both had bad ff until we switched drivers and then
it was great. Can you install newer drivers for your wheel? Re-install them?

GPL never wanted to recognize my old T2 wheel which was a very popular wheel
when it was released. Papy sims have a good controller setup, but also have
their share of other problems in other areas.

David G Fisher

Andre Warring

F1 Racing Championship

by Andre Warring » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:17:14

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:55:44 GMT, "David G Fisher"


>> problems. I believe DGF has the deadzone problem too?

>Yes. FF is great but the only way to get rid of the dead zone I have with my
>Ferrari wheel and XP is to use single axis. I know it isn't a great
>solution, but it's a hell of a lot better than the big dead zone. Did you
>try this?

No I haven't, I'll give it a shot, thanks.

Nope.. there is only one driver that works perfect with the Momo (the
latest version, the former beta versions still caused some problems
with the wheel) and I don't have any problems in any of my other sims.
Frankly I'm not willing to spend even more time on setting up my Momo
in F1 2001, I really spend more than enough hours on this.
I'll wait for the release of F1 2001 (in 3 months I believe) and pray
that the controller problems are gone.

Yes, I remember people had problems with the T2 and GPL at the time.
There are so many different controllers and systems out there, there
are allways some devices that cause problems with certain games. Even
windows has it's share of supporting some devices, even though they
test windows with so many different types of hardware.
It's the combination of different devices and drivers which causes the
most problems I believe.

Quite frankly F1 2001 is the only sim which I can't configure
correctly. GP3 took me a couple of hours to get it right, I even
needed a usermade util to get it working right, but at least I got it
working. This is frustrating :-/

Andre

David G Fishe

F1 Racing Championship

by David G Fishe » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 07:39:51


> On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 21:55:44 GMT, "David G Fisher"

> Nope.. there is only one driver that works perfect with the Momo (the
> latest version, the former beta versions still caused some problems
> with the wheel) and I don't have any problems in any of my other sims.
> Frankly I'm not willing to spend even more time on setting up my Momo
> in F1 2001, I really spend more than enough hours on this.
> I'll wait for the release of F1 2001 (in 3 months I believe) and pray
> that the controller problems are gone.

How about a CLEAN reinstall of the drivers then? That's what I had to do
with my wheel. Ian's right though about the in game settings being simple.
It's just that if the game isn't working correctly with the drivers, then
all of those settings (and the one's in the .plyr file become meaningless.
I've spent A LOT of hours screwing with this game too so I know how
frustrated it can be. I only say try a driver reinstall because it's even
more frustrating if you never find the answer to the problems.

David G Fisher

Todd Sorense

F1 Racing Championship

by Todd Sorense » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:46:12

LOL. The only controller "issues" I've ever had with any race game is F1RC!!

Todd




> > no patch as of yet but still VERY good game, I enjoy it MUCH more than
> > F12001 especially with this SHITTY controller setup they have done in
> > F12001, didn't try the Gt mod yet....

> Gee, I look at your email address and can't help but think you have some
> sort of bias towards F1RC because it is done by a French company. F12001
> makes F1RC look like an arcade game. No controller issues here either and
it
> has the best FFB of any racing sim on today's market. Ubisoft thinks FFB
is
> when you can feel the rumble strips and nothing else.
> Face it, Ubisoft screwed the customer royally on this title and I won't be
> bying F1RC2 because of it, no matter how good it might be.

Andre Warring

F1 Racing Championship

by Andre Warring » Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:54:24

On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:39:51 GMT, "David G Fisher"


>How about a CLEAN reinstall of the drivers then? That's what I had to do
>with my wheel. Ian's right though about the in game settings being simple.
>It's just that if the game isn't working correctly with the drivers, then
>all of those settings (and the one's in the .plyr file become meaningless.
>I've spent A LOT of hours screwing with this game too so I know how
>frustrated it can be. I only say try a driver reinstall because it's even
>more frustrating if you never find the answer to the problems.

>David G Fisher

Good suggestion. But - a couple of months ago I did a fresh reinstall
of windows (and thus of all my drivers) and still had the problem.
But windows is acting weird again lately (sigh) so I was allready
planning a reinstall of windows (bigger sigh).
I'll give f1 2001 another shot then..

Btw, any f1 2001 and momo owners reading this, what version of the
Momo drivers are you using?

Andre


rec.autos.simulators is a usenet newsgroup formed in December, 1993. As this group was always unmoderated there may be some spam or off topic articles included. Some links do point back to racesimcentral.net as we could not validate the original address. Please report any pages that you believe warrant deletion from this archive (include the link in your email). RaceSimCentral.net is in no way responsible and does not endorse any of the content herein.