rec.autos.simulators

> >How about a CLEAN reinstall of the drivers then? That's what I had to do
> >with my wheel. Ian's right though about the in game settings being
simple.
> >It's just that if the game isn't working correctly with the drivers, then
> >all of those settings (and the one's in the .plyr file become
meaningless.
> >I've spent A LOT of hours screwing with this game too so I know how
> >frustrated it can be. I only say try a driver reinstall because it's even
> >more frustrating if you never find the answer to the problems.

> >David G Fisher

> Good suggestion. But - a couple of months ago I did a fresh reinstall
> of windows (and thus of all my drivers) and still had the problem.
> But windows is acting weird again lately (sigh) so I was allready
> planning a reinstall of windows (bigger sigh).
> I'll give f1 2001 another shot then..

> Btw, any f1 2001 and momo owners reading this, what version of the
> Momo drivers are you using?

> Andre

>David G Fisher

> >GPL never wanted to recognize my old T2 wheel which was a very popular
wheel
> >when it was released. Papy sims have a good controller setup, but also
have
> >their share of other problems in other areas.

> Did it give you any errors?  What game card were you using?  I never had
any
> problem with my T2 and GPL...

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> GPLRank - under construction...

> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
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> >> problems. I believe DGF has the deadzone problem too?

> >Yes. FF is great but the only way to get rid of the dead zone I have with
my
> >Ferrari wheel and XP is to use single axis. I know it isn't a great
> >solution, but it's a hell of a lot better than the big dead zone. Did you
> >try this?

> No I haven't, I'll give it a shot, thanks.

> >Forget trying to edit all the settings manually. Those aren't going to
help
> >at all if it's a problem between the drivers you are using with your
wheel,
> >and the game. Ian and I both had bad ff until we switched drivers and
then
> >it was great. Can you install newer drivers for your wheel? Re-install
them?

> Nope.. there is only one driver that works perfect with the Momo (the
> latest version, the former beta versions still caused some problems
> with the wheel) and I don't have any problems in any of my other sims.
> Frankly I'm not willing to spend even more time on setting up my Momo
> in F1 2001, I really spend more than enough hours on this.
> I'll wait for the release of F1 2001 (in 3 months I believe) and pray
> that the controller problems are gone.

> >GPL never wanted to recognize my old T2 wheel which was a very popular
wheel
> >when it was released. Papy sims have a good controller setup, but also
have
> >their share of other problems in other areas.

> Yes, I remember people had problems with the T2 and GPL at the time.
> There are so many different controllers and systems out there, there
> are allways some devices that cause problems with certain games. Even
> windows has it's share of supporting some devices, even though they
> test windows with so many different types of hardware.
> It's the combination of different devices and drivers which causes the
> most problems I believe.

> Quite frankly F1 2001 is the only sim which I can't configure
> correctly. GP3 took me a couple of hours to get it right, I even
> needed a usermade util to get it working right, but at least I got it
> working. This is frustrating :-/

> Andre

> >David G Fisher

> > no patch as of yet but still VERY good game, I enjoy it MUCH more than
> > F12001 especially with this SHITTY controller setup they have done in
> > F12001, didn't try the Gt mod yet....

> Gee, I look at your email address and can't help but think you have some
> sort of bias towards F1RC because it is done by a French company. F12001
> makes F1RC look like an arcade game. No controller issues here either and
it
> has the best FFB of any racing sim on today's market. Ubisoft thinks FFB
is
> when you can feel the rumble strips and nothing else.
> Face it, Ubisoft screwed the customer royally on this title and I won't be
> bying F1RC2 because of it, no matter how good it might be.

> > Well, I can assure you thet I might be slightly biased against certain
US
> > reaction "We own the world" and so on, but I am definitely NOT
pro-french,
> I
> > think it's a good thing for the *** industry that there are some
strong
> > EUROPEAN companies otherwise all we would have would be some NASCAR and
> CART
> > (yes TRUSR85, CART !!!) games and I think that GENERALLY speaking
typical
> > "European" sports are better done by "European" *** companies (rally
> and
> > F1) and that nobody can beat SIERRA for NASCAR games...

> Ah,but you do admit to being pro European. 'nuf said. ;-)

> >No errors. If I remember correctly, it wouldn't recognize the wheel, or
it
> >would see the wheel and pedals backwards. Did the same thing in the N4
demo.
> >I would have to keep trying to calibrate over and over until it finally
> >recognized it correctly.

> Yow - that sucks.  Did you run it through a Soundblaster game port?  I
have a
> seperate game card, and it worked fine.  How does your rig work with the
N4
> retail?

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> GPLRank - under construction...

> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
> Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

> About the FFB in F1RC I have to TOTALLY disagree with you, with my beloved
> ACT LABS FORCE RS I can FEEL the car as I about to lose the rear, when you
> start to understeer exiting a corner (Tosa in Imola is great for that) and
> all the weight is on the back wheels and you keep on giving more throttle
> there is a point where you feel a little kick in the wheel ans you are
just
> about to start losing the rear and the front suddenly "grabs"....

> Nowhere else (even not GPL) have I seen this, now I agree that in F1RC the
> FFB for crashing in the wall is NOT good, but I don't plan to crash in the
> walls as wallriding is really not a thing to do in a F1 sim.

> To finish between the difference F1RC-F12001....well....

> I didn't find F1 2001 "nicer looking" than F1RC
> I cannot play F1 2001 with my ACTLABS, I didn't try to remove split axis,
> even if it work with split axis I don't WANT to play like this, is it F1
> 2001 or F1 1996 ?
> For online play they both suck, maybe 2001 is better than RC, but anyway,
> WHO can fight with VROC and GPL for online play ?
> The AI in RC really gets better after a while....

> Bottom line is, F1RC is not the perfect F1 modern sim, but it's the nicest
I
> have found, if F1 2002 is better then i'll switch, and although i am
french
> and a long time Prost fan (I almost worked for them last year, SHIT !!!) I
> won't even try to defend Prost GP game which was REALLY a piece of crap...

> > > no patch as of yet but still VERY good game, I enjoy it MUCH more than
> > > F12001 especially with this SHITTY controller setup they have done in
> > > F12001, didn't try the Gt mod yet....

> > Gee, I look at your email address and can't help but think you have some
> > sort of bias towards F1RC because it is done by a French company. F12001
> > makes F1RC look like an arcade game. No controller issues here either
and
> it
> > has the best FFB of any racing sim on today's market. Ubisoft thinks FFB
> is
> > when you can feel the rumble strips and nothing else.
> > Face it, Ubisoft screwed the customer royally on this title and I won't
be
> > bying F1RC2 because of it, no matter how good it might be.

>Err.. I don't think David bought N4.. just a hunch :)