rec.autos.simulators

by **Mar** » Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:53:47

I like my TM F1 Pro (Euro version of NASCAR Pro) but after a few years
faithful use it's starting to feel the strain - I've recently had to
superglue the pot shaft to the wheel clip. I fancy something a bit
more solid and that Momo (seen online for 120 inc VAT and shipping)
certainly looks the part. I've never tried FF before, so I'm a little
worried about that. If I don't like FF, how is it with the feature
switched off?

I like the pedals on my TM - I can heel and toe (I use an old T2 pedal
set linked to rockfire USB adapter for clutch - works for GPL, N2002,
Viper) and the brake has a great feel. The Momo pedals look a bit
noddy, but how are they in practise? Any heel and toe-ers use them?

I don't really want to have to wire up my TM pedals with the Momo
wheel if possible - that'd mean I'd be running a USB wheel, USB
shifter, USB clutch and gameport gas and brake. I forsee a world of
pain with that setup...

The more feedback the better, chaps.

Cheers,

Mark
Reading, UK

by **Gerry Aitke** » Sat, 13 Apr 2002 18:27:06

> I don't really want to have to wire up my TM pedals with the Momo
> wheel if possible - that'd mean I'd be running a USB wheel, USB
> shifter, USB clutch and gameport gas and brake. I forsee a world of
> pain with that setup...

I use stand alone Redline pedals with my momo. They use the joystick
port in my soundcard, the whole setup works fine with Papy sims.

So, no need to wire anything if you just want to run GPL and N4/2002,
and you won't have any problems because they see all axis. You'll have
trouble with RT and F1CR because of the noddy controller configuration,
though.

I'm not saying these problems can't be overcome, it's just I never
bothered to try, and just got my money back on these titles instead.

BTM, you'll love the Momo wheel!

Cheers

Gerry

by **Don Burnett** » Sat, 13 Apr 2002 19:41:33

I was considering using my TSW2 pedals with my Momo, but have actually
gotten to where I like the Momo pedals now and have gotten used to them.
I love the Momo, and while the TSW2 is a fantastic wheel, the Momo is my
wheel of choice and what I race with.
I just wish I could run F12001 it dual axis pedals, I can but my throttle
control is pretty crappy, so I run it in single axis.

Don Burnette

by **Willard VanderPloe** » Sat, 13 Apr 2002 20:28:42

Mark;

See my post earlier - I was in the same boat as you and got my MOMO
yesterday.

My first impressions were very good. The wheel is much more accurate than
the one it replaced. Force Feedback is new to me as well - but with
settings supplied by a GPL mate - it felt very good first try.

I took the Ferrari out at Monza (gpl) and was within a half second of my
personal best within 10 laps.

The pedals felt a bit "dead" at first - but I will get used to them - and
they have a solid feel.

I've no problem recommending it on my limited experience.

That said - there was a problem with the shifter paddle on the right and my
MOMO is now back in it's box awaiting exchange.

by **Andre Warrin** » Sat, 13 Apr 2002 21:04:46

On Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:41:33 GMT, "Don Burnette"

>I was considering using my TSW2 pedals with my Momo, but have actually
>gotten to where I like the Momo pedals now and have gotten used to them.
>I love the Momo, and while the TSW2 is a fantastic wheel, the Momo is my
>wheel of choice and what I race with.
>I just wish I could run F12001 it dual axis pedals, I can but my throttle
>control is pretty crappy, so I run it in single axis.

>Don Burnette

Don, you can fix the dual axis problems in F1 2001 with DXTweak.
With dual axis F1 2001 uses only half of the pedal travel, but with
dxtweak you can solve this problem.
It's a bit of a pain to explain, do a search on google for some older
ras posts about this.
Or wait a couple of weeks untill F1 2002 is released, I will spank
them personally if they haven't fixed the dual axis problem.

Andre

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sun, 14 Apr 2002 02:45:41

Go for it Mark. It's a great FF wheel. I recommend it wholeheartedly.

Jan.
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by **Mark Daviso** » Sun, 14 Apr 2002 03:41:34

Thanks guys,

The cheapest I've seen it in a b&m store is 150 quid (and they've got no
more). 120 online is the best I've found so far. That's what I paid for my
T2 all those years ago...

Let's hope this month's bonus is up to it, otherwise I've got a 3 or 4 month
wait...

Cheers,

Mark
Reading, UK

by **<b..** » Sun, 14 Apr 2002 07:37:54

Take my advice, I just had to send my MOMO back to Logitech
because of a popping inside the wheel, seems as though a gear
lost a tooth or a bad FF Motor. But anyway I've only had it
since October. The cost of shipping the wheel back 2 day
was going to be $60 at Mailboxes etc. Buy the wheel locally,
that way if you have a problem your not without a wheel for 2 weeks.
Get it at Best Buy and be happy. I don't buy anything on the net that
I might have to return due to bad workmanship...it is not worth the
shipping and long wait for return.

by **Mar** » Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:01:14

> Take my advice, I just had to send my MOMO back to Logitech
> because of a popping inside the wheel, seems as though a gear
> lost a tooth or a bad FF Motor. But anyway I've only had it
> since October. The cost of shipping the wheel back 2 day
> was going to be $60 at Mailboxes etc. Buy the wheel locally,
> that way if you have a problem your not without a wheel for 2 weeks.
> Get it at Best Buy and be happy. I don't buy anything on the net that
> I might have to return due to bad workmanship...it is not worth the
> shipping and long wait for return.

I will certainly bear this in mind - I usually prefer to buy over the
counter.

Depends on how strapped for cash I am at purchase time as to whether I
gamble or not...

Mark
Reading, UK

by **Tony Rickar** » Sun, 14 Apr 2002 22:12:01

Mark,

I am sure I paid 130 at Pc World for mine.

I just looked on the off chance as their web site didn't list it. It doesn't now
but that doesn't mean a thing in my experience. The previous week I had asked if
they would be getting any and I might as well have asked the cardboard cutout at
the entrance to the store!

Tony

by **rik zeppeli** » Mon, 15 Apr 2002 01:34:39

Be sure and let us know how you like the wheel!

by **Mark Daviso** » Tue, 16 Apr 2002 01:29:32

Yeah, that's my kind of PC World experience, too. It is possible to get
decent deals if you know exactly what you want and they happen to be running
some sort os special, but that's about it.

Went in a couple of weeks ago and they had one for 150, but there are none
there now. I figure it's pointless to go through the pain of asking until
I'm in a position to buy...

Mark
Reading, UK

by **Mar** » Sat, 20 Apr 2002 19:38:04

Well guys, I've done the deed.

http://www.dabs.com/products/prod-info3-info.asp?&m=y&quicklinx=13T8&...

So if I think it's crap, you can all chip in and refund my 120... ;)

I'll let you know what it does to my N2K2 Watkins Glen laptimes in 1-3
business days time :) And if anyone has any example core.inis to try
with GPL I'd appreciate it...

Mark
Reading, UK

> I like my TM F1 Pro (Euro version of NASCAR Pro) but after a few years
> faithful use it's starting to feel the strain - I've recently had to
> superglue the pot shaft to the wheel clip. I fancy something a bit
> more solid and that Momo (seen online for 120 inc VAT and shipping)
> certainly looks the part. I've never tried FF before, so I'm a little
> worried about that. If I don't like FF, how is it with the feature
> switched off?

> I like the pedals on my TM - I can heel and toe (I use an old T2 pedal
> set linked to rockfire USB adapter for clutch - works for GPL, N2002,
> Viper) and the brake has a great feel. The Momo pedals look a bit
> noddy, but how are they in practise? Any heel and toe-ers use them?

> I don't really want to have to wire up my TM pedals with the Momo
> wheel if possible - that'd mean I'd be running a USB wheel, USB
> shifter, USB clutch and gameport gas and brake. I forsee a world of
> pain with that setup...

> The more feedback the better, chaps.

> Cheers,

> Mark
> Reading, UK

by J » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 11:00:03

In case that you don't like it,
I offer you an old LWFF incl. ball bearing conversion in exchange for the Momo.
Always wanted to try that one.

Shipping in on you though :-)

Cya
JensSchumi

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by **Mar** » Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:19:47

Well, got it on Monday, used it at first with my TMF1 pedals (which
I'm now thinking are by far the best outside of ***a) because I can
not stand the Momo pedals. Decided yesterday to buy a squash ball and
do the brake conversion because:

1. I'm sure I'm gonna play more than N2K2 and GPL at some point and
odds are that they will not support so many controllers (clutch,
shifter, 2 wheel/pedal sets).

2. The MOMO needs pedals atached to work, the TMF1 pedals need the
wheel attached to work and that means a whole world of mess around my
rig to use the wheel and pedals I want.

3. By not using the TMF1 pedals, I can move the whole set to PC2 for
2-up LAN and sell the TM 360 Modena wheel that's currently attached to
it.

That's three compelling reasons to endure and try to get used to the
MOMO pedals. With my limited testing I have found that my consistency
is out of the window. I am starting to get used to the limited throw
of the accellerator, but the braking is taking a while to adjust to
making heel-toeing very difficult. It's not so bad with left foot
braking as up until a couple of weeks ago that's how I always drove,
but I just got used to the old heel-toe technique with the TM so I
feel like I'm starting from scratch.

I hear these pedals are an improvement over the old LWFF, even if the
wheel itself isn't, so I'll keep hold of what I've got. Thanks for
the offer, though, JensSchumi ;)

Mark
Reading, UK

> In case that you don't like it,
> I offer you an old LWFF incl. ball bearing conversion in exchange for the Momo.
> Always wanted to try that one.

> Shipping in on you though :-)

> Cya
> JensSchumi

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