rec.autos.simulators

Does anyone know when we should expect the first patch for N2?  Also,
will the mirror problem be corrected?  I have also experienced the bell
ringing sound mentioned by a few here at R.A.S..  This really does not
sound like radio noise to me.  Hopefully this can be considered for a
patch.

On another topic, I installed N2 from Win95.  When I ried to run under
Win95, it wouldn't work.  System locked, if I remember correctly.  No
big deal.  I have been running under DOS.  Eric Busch wrote that N2
should be run under Win95.  Is there a significant improvement here that
I am missing out on?

I am using renddma.bat on a new Ocean Rhino 100mhz Pentium Triton2 mb,
512 pipeline burst cache, Reactor, 32meg ram.  N2 runs and looks pretty
great with everything turned ON (not auto), and showing all cars!  The
only noticeable jerkiness due to low frame rate occurs at Bristol on the
initial start.  Even this is not too bad.  If anyone has any ideas for
improvements using this existing hardware, I'd be interested and
appreciative.  I have read some postings about bios upgrades but am a
little hesitant about doing this on a system that seems to be working
pretty well.  My luck would be to loose bios altogether.

On a personal note, I have seen one or two postings regarding
southerners.  These seem to imply that the ravings of a few indicate
that we, as a culture, are dimwitted and/or crass.  I would consider it
a personal favor if we could drop this line of discussion.  I was born,
and have lived in the Carolinas all of my life.  I am slightly offended
by this overused sterotype.  And, after all, the most popular simulation
being discussed here is based on a sport rooted deeply in this region.  

Thank you in advance.

Tony Joy

I never said it should be run under Win95, just that it is capable of
working this way.  However for the upcoming NRO, you will need to run
Nascar2 through Win95 as the TEN front-end is Win95 only.

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Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

Wrong Eric I play Command & conquer on Ten and it is installed under
Dos.You do not have to Have N2 installed under 95 to play on Ten they will
give you a exe. file to put in your N2 dir so when you want to play the
game on ten it will work like c&c under Dos.What I mean by this is you will
be under 95 when you connect to Ten and when you get into ten and start a
race it will load the game from Dos and run fine.Just like it does for
C&C.Atleast I hope they does this because you only have to be under 95 to
connect to Ten not to play the game.

Robert

Excuse me, but did you even read what you wrote?  There is one version
of N2 (it happens to be a DOS version).  In order to connect to TEN,
you have to use Win95's dial-up networking (there is not a DOS
version).  After it connects you will then run the DOS version of
Nascar2 in a Win95 DOS box (just like C&C).  At no point do you leave
the Win95 environment, it is still running in the background.  If this
wasn't the case, the connection to TEN would no longer be active.
Nascar2 must be run through Win95 in order to connect to TEN.  Think
about it.

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Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
The IWCCCARS Project: Q & A Representative
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

It works fine here through Win95.   Pentium 120 with 24 megs and a Reactor.

Have you ran the DMADIAG program?  If so, what are your performance
figures?  I get 58.7 mb/sec with my P5-120, and still have to reduce the
number of cars to make it smooth.  It may be my motherboard, it is getting
old.  ( 18 months )

Don't you know?  People love us!  

I didn't get that impression, and if they did, well, they are intitled to
their position.  Don't let it get to you.  Taking offense at the comments
just implies there is some truth to the statements.  And all those UFO
sightings don't help either!  :-)

I was born, and spent the first 17 years of my life just outside of
Savannah, GA, and couldn't wait to leave the place.  In the past 19 years I
have been what seems like all over the world, and I know from personal
experience that there isn't any group out there who can talk bad about us.
They have there way, we have ours.  And judging by the game they play the
most, they want to be like us.  :-)

One bug I have noticed is a pain.  During yellow's following cars out of
the pits that do not catch up to the pace car, but at thier own sweet slow
pace.  I was at Talladega and both cars had sheet metal missing.  I don't
know if the damage kept them from catching the pace car, they were going
about 50mph and we were in Turn 2 when the green came out.  Needless to say
but, I was way behind the leader, I was in 2nd and nearly 30 seconds back.
Adam, you might want to fix this.  This is the only bug in gameplay I've
noticed.

Eric

<< I have also experienced the bell
ringing sound mentioned by a few here at R.A.S..  This really does not
sound like radio noise to me. >>

This annoying bell-buzzer sound is a warning that you are VERY close to
making contact with an opponent. It basically  means get the hell out of
the way or your day will be over. I don't think it is a bug as the only
time I hear this is when I'm in eminent danger.

REPLY:

That's what I thought it was. But somebody states it's squelch noice.
Get this, they stated that your too close to the other car when your
spotter tries to communicate to you. Instead of hearing him you getting
a noise instead. Many peple have stated this is realistic. If true
that's pretty good. If not, it's still a good way of describing it.

Q.B.M.

Haven't seen the 'Dega bug yet... but if the "bell ringing" sound is
the three tones (sometimes one tone) right before Ned speaks, I have
heard that before.  I usually go to Datona and Homestead w/ a scanner
and every once in a while I hear those tones just before a spotter
begins screaming his lungs out about something pretty important.  If
it's something else, then I have no clue.  Too busy trying to drive.
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Systems Engineer, TELES Corp.

Tel: (415) 652-9191
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You cannot even boot into DOS mode if you are using Winsock.  It is a 32
bit program that only runs under the Win95/NT kernal.  There are 8/16
bit Winsock's available that run under Win 3.1(Those of you connected to
the Internet & using Win 3.1x use this) but I have never heard of any
that run under DOS. For those of you that may not know this, If you
start Win95 and then run a DOS application from either a short cut, the
DOS command window, or even the run command, the DOS program is running
under Win95 not DOS. The only proper ways I know of to run a DOS app
from DOS is to either boot using the F8 key and selecting command prompt
only or by exiting Wind95 using the Boot to DOS option. When you do
this, you lose all Win95 functions. Such as Dial-up networking
capabilities. I'll get off my soap box now.

V/R,
Bob
Bob_Stanley
Chicken Farm Racing

It is a squelched noise that happens when you are too close to another
car...... Really it is... There is no need for this thread to continue...
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Perhaps it was the bias of the testers (nearly all of us race on Hawaii
from time to time), but we chose the mirrors you see because they do a much
better job of telling you how far you are from the car beside you. I did
ask Papyrus to consider moving the mirror image back a bit, so it would
start at your A post and hopefully show everything to the rear of the car,
but there would still be blind spots.

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

Thanks!

Tony Joy

You hear this sound on the real nascar scanners at the race. It's just a
product of these types of radios. I've heard it before at Taladega.

Also, thanks for your involvement with N2 beta testing and your
continued support of us all at R.A.S..

Tony Joy