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by **Mike Grand** » Sat, 03 Jun 2000 04:00:00

There you go, insinuating that I agree with his insinuation. (-:

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Although it was OK for Andy to 'generalize' and 'insinuate' that I received free product from TSW in return for my positive comments regarding their product?

Scott
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>Your done as far as we're
>concerned so you won't be missed. Asta'.

Please don't generalize your opinions to include everyone. There will always be loyal ECCI supporters in the sim community. Everyone including yourself is entitled to their opinions, but don't insinuate everyones is the same. This has always been a sensative subject on the NG.

by **Mike Grand** » Sat, 03 Jun 2000 04:00:00

The irony in that Scott was that I owned my own business for 20 years which happened to be a used car dealership. I've driven and owned cars some people only dream about. I am not impressed by cars anymore, guess I just grew out of it.

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Then there are those among us who drive $20k and above cars and use under
$200 sim racing devices <VBG> =)

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> > I also drive an $800 car that I've had for over 3 years.
>
>
> There's something strangely reassuring about a guy who'll spend more on
his
> sim wheel than he spends on his car. Way to go, Mike ;-)
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by **Scott B. Huste** » Sat, 03 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Bastard. LOLOLOL ;)

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There you go, insinuating that I agree with his insinuation. (-:

by **Scott B. Huste** » Sat, 03 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Mike,

I grew up around cars and racing. Its in my *** <G> I still get e***d driving into the Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, or Porsche dealership! Although I laugh at these 'little' sports cars. Like the Porsche Boxster. Im not sure, but I guess you have to buy two of them and put one on each foot ?? ROFLMAO They weren't made for people built like myself <VBG> I remember the first time I saw the Lotus Esprit. Couldn't believe how low that car was. Only came up to my waist in height. We bought the wife a brand new (at the time) 1999 Volkswagon Beetle GLS. Roomy as hell. But I can't imagine the Audi TT would offer me much head room.

But I fit in a C-5 Vette very nicely ;)

I got to drive a Ferrari F40 one time not too long ago. Now THAT was awesome! Damn, I need to get rich soon =)

Scott
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The irony in that Scott was that I owned my own business for 20 years which happened to be a used car dealership. I've driven and owned cars some people only dream about. I am not impressed by cars anymore, guess I just grew out of it.

by **Rick Boy** » Sat, 03 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Scott,

You sure sparked a memory. Back in '71 or '72 my girlfirends neighbor had a Lotus Europa. Didn't even come up to my crotch much less my waist. Getting into it was like getting into a beach chair. Closest I've ever come to driving a race car and still remember it very vividly.

Thanks, haven't thought about her in years.

Rick

Mike,

I grew up around cars and racing. Its in my *** <G> I still get e***d driving into the Mercedes, Lexus, BMW, or Porsche dealership! Although I laugh at these 'little' sports cars. Like the Porsche Boxster. Im not sure, but I guess you have to buy two of them and put one on each foot ?? ROFLMAO They weren't made for people built like myself <VBG> I remember the first time I saw the Lotus Esprit. Couldn't believe how low that car was. Only came up to my waist in height. We bought the wife a brand new (at the time) 1999 Volkswagon Beetle GLS. Roomy as hell. But I can't imagine the Audi TT would offer me much head room.

But I fit in a C-5 Vette very nicely ;)

I got to drive a Ferrari F40 one time not too long ago. Now THAT was awesome! Damn, I need to get rich soon =)

Scott
PA-Scott
PowerSims.com

The irony in that Scott was that I owned my own business for 20 years which happened to be a used car dealership. I've driven and owned cars some people only dream about. I am not impressed by cars anymore, guess I just grew out of it.

by **GTX_SlotCa** » Sat, 03 Jun 2000 04:00:00

As a ***ager, I got to drive a Lotus Europa. I doubt I could even fit in one now, but if I could, I'd never be able to get out. As I recall, the center console came half way up to my arm pit and the shifter was about 3 inches long.
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by **Scott B. Huste** » Sat, 03 Jun 2000 04:00:00

ROFL Actually, it was someone who I did a Mortgage for a few years ago when
i was a Loan Officer. ($220,000 loan on a $500,000 house but a ton of 'red
tape' which happens sometimes with those wealthy folk ;) ). Happened to
run into him and he offered. Uh.. that was a hard decision to make <VBG>

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by **Bill Worre** » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Dang, with friends that let you drive Ferrari F40's and their race cars who
needs to get rich!!

I'm jealous! :P

I got to drive a Ferrari F40 one time not too long ago. Now THAT was
awesome! Damn, I need to get rich soon =)

by **Eldre** » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>The irony in that Scott was that I owned my own business for 20 years =
>which happened to be a used car dealership. I've driven and owned cars =
>some people only dream about. I am not impressed by cars anymore, guess =
>I just grew out of it.

Aww, that must have been ROUGH... :)

Lessee, if I lived in a cardboard box, ate only bread and water, and saved ALL
of my paycheck, it would STILL be almost two years before I could afford a Z3
or Lotus Esprit Turbo(my dream car)...

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by **Eldre** » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>> I also drive an $800 car that I've had for over 3 years.

>There's something strangely reassuring about a guy who'll spend more on his
>sim wheel than he spends on his car. Way to go, Mike ;-)

Priorities, huh?

Moo!<g>

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by **Eldre** » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>Scott,

>If you have to resort to calling pedals TRACTOR pedals I really can't think
>too high of your own skills in choosing the right words. It's actually
>pretty childish. It really is.

>However, regarding the pedals: around here in Europe, where we *know* how to
>make quality cars better than anywhere, the bigger the cars get, the more
>the accelerator pedal looks and works like your so-called 'tractor pedal'.
>The reason behind this is that it's so very comfortable. That's what
>producing high-end cars like BMW, Mercedes, Saab, Volvo is all about.
>Comfort. So why make fun of a company's pedal design when it's widely known
>that it's the most comfortable design around?
>---

Ok, now you're assuming that Scott even knows what the pedals in those cars
even LOOK like. I've never been in ANY of those vehicles. So, if I was
describing pedals, I'd have to reference them to something I *had* seen. Which
may or may NOT be 'tractor' pedals. Actually, I've never been on a farm, so I
couldn't use that. But' you should understand what I mean....

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

>>Some people will always buy top of the line - they want it 'just =
>because', and
>>they have money to burn.

>You're right Eldred. I bought mine just because, just because it was the =
>best wheel on the market and since I spent a good many hours using an =
>ECCI over the last 4 years it turned out to be a good responsible =
>investment. I have tried almost every wheel available in the US and find =
>it to be most suitable for my driving style. I also drive an $800 car =
>that I've had for over 3 years. I actually use my ECCI more than I use =
>my car, so I guess it was as good an investment as my car.
>=20

LOL! If I had money 'to burn', I *might* have bought one. I admit, it looks
cool. But $1500? I inherited my first car, and paid $700 for my second. So,
the ECCI cost twice as much as my first two cars COMBINED...<g>

After I hit the lotto, though... :)

Eldred - who would be PISSED at still being slow with an ECCI...
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by **David G Fishe** » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

He didn't actually accuse you of receiving a wheel from TSW in exchange for
a good review. He said your comments resembled those who have.

Of course, I've been accused a number of times by r.a.s. regulars for liking
a sim only because I "must of been paid" by the developer, or I wasn't just
a beta tester but in actuality was paid by the developer (to get a whopping
20 people here to by the sim and make them rich).

David G Fisher

> AndyCers,

> It was still extremely irresponsible to insinuate these accusations
against
> me with no basis. In fact, you cannot even find a review I did of a TSW
> unit. If you want to say that some reviewers or individuals can be
> 'bought', thats fine. However, next time I suggest you be more
responsible
> before accusing a specific person of these actions.

> --
> Scott B. Husted
> ICQ #4395450

> Editor in Chief
> PowerSims.com

> > > It is unprofessional and downright rude to assume that just because
> > > someone speaks positively of your competitors product, they must have
> > > been compensated in some way for their positive comments. I, for one,
> > > can't believe that you would insinuate such a thing having no
> > > knowledge whatsoever of the circumstances of Mr. Husted's comments.

> > We have evidence of many such circumstances. To go into this would
> > require more
> > energy than I wish to invest in this matter... especially given that it
> > is moot, for we are not actively pursuing this market.

by **Scott B. Huste** » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Considering the number of emails i received, I and many others interpreted
it that way. Him apologizing and clearing that fact up would have solved
it.

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> He didn't actually accuse you of receiving a wheel from TSW in exchange
for
> a good review. He said your comments resembled those who have.

> Of course, I've been accused a number of times by r.a.s. regulars for
liking
> a sim only because I "must of been paid" by the developer, or I wasn't
just
> a beta tester but in actuality was paid by the developer (to get a
whopping
> 20 people here to by the sim and make them rich).

> David G Fisher

> > AndyCers,

> > It was still extremely irresponsible to insinuate these accusations
> against
> > me with no basis. In fact, you cannot even find a review I did of a TSW
> > unit. If you want to say that some reviewers or individuals can be
> > 'bought', thats fine. However, next time I suggest you be more
> responsible
> > before accusing a specific person of these actions.

> > --
> > Scott B. Husted
> > ICQ #4395450

> > Editor in Chief
> > PowerSims.com

> > > > It is unprofessional and downright rude to assume that just because
> > > > someone speaks positively of your competitors product, they must
have
> > > > been compensated in some way for their positive comments. I, for
one,
> > > > can't believe that you would insinuate such a thing having no
> > > > knowledge whatsoever of the circumstances of Mr. Husted's comments.

> > > We have evidence of many such circumstances. To go into this would
> > > require more
> > > energy than I wish to invest in this matter... especially given that
it
> > > is moot, for we are not actively pursuing this market.

by **Roger Walke** » Sun, 04 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Did ECCI pay you to say that? :o)

Roger

> He didn't actually accuse you of receiving a wheel from TSW in
exchange for
> a good review. He said your comments resembled those who have.

> Of course, I've been accused a number of times by r.a.s. regulars for
liking
> a sim only because I "must of been paid" by the developer, or I wasn't
just
> a beta tester but in actuality was paid by the developer (to get a
whopping
> 20 people here to by the sim and make them rich).

> David G Fisher

> > AndyCers,

> > It was still extremely irresponsible to insinuate these accusations
> against
> > me with no basis. In fact, you cannot even find a review I did of a
TSW
> > unit. If you want to say that some reviewers or individuals can be
> > 'bought', thats fine. However, next time I suggest you be more
> responsible
> > before accusing a specific person of these actions.

> > --
> > Scott B. Husted
> > ICQ #4395450

> > Editor in Chief
> > PowerSims.com

> > > > It is unprofessional and downright rude to assume that just
because
> > > > someone speaks positively of your competitors product, they must
have
> > > > been compensated in some way for their positive comments. I, for
one,
> > > > can't believe that you would insinuate such a thing having no
> > > > knowledge whatsoever of the circumstances of Mr. Husted's
comments.

> > > We have evidence of many such circumstances. To go into this would
> > > require more
> > > energy than I wish to invest in this matter... especially given
that it
> > > is moot, for we are not actively pursuing this market.

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