rec.autos.simulators

> hi everyone,,of course im new but just ,,"HAD TO JOIN EA NSR
> CONVERSATION"   pardon my typing method but what i have to say is more
> important than proper english.   i was searching google for ea setups
> and some how ran across a feb of 05 verbal exchange on ea nsr,
> hacks,files being manipulated ,racing online,the physics,mirror,etc
> etc. im sorry the names escape me but you know who you are. what a
> great debate,meaning that sincerely,i read the whole verbal sparring
> match.probally took 20 min or so,,lol,,,so i joined your group and not
> a post since then?? or did i miss it? i am a simple simmer from way
> back,im 43,bought my first papyrus in 90? 91? i was cool...a compauq
> computer that was not quite as good as my video card is
> now.,,lol,,,but its true,,, always been a pappy supporter till my son
> bought me ea nsr and now being on dial up i gave it a try just to
> play the ai.offline. i agreed,laughed,snickered while
> disagreeing,withall the post and opinions i  was reading that i
> forgot i was looking for setups. where you 2 or 3 gentleman***
> nowadays,i would enjoy talking about anything concerning any racing

> thank you all and look foward to talking to either or all.

> Dude,

> Story of EA's NSR, is to a point over, game set match...

> the game was rehashed HEAT (or was it just old nascar thunder sorry right
> now I have not the time to go google it) tracks, code, setups from the old
> game worked in new game.  Multiplay was Piss, everyone familiar with heat,
> hacked at the game as they did before.  Everything was in anarchy
> online...

> EA did nothing but lead everyone on that "this time by god we'll get
> nascar right...'  some will support EA by saying clever marketing
> practice, I mean at no time did EA ever say they would not release the
> game as NSR05 as they did, and then follow up by issuing patches through
> retail outlets in the form of NSR06, 07, et all.

> But then even that has not happened, so IMHO and prolly most in here, EA
> crapped on the community, they didnt even grunt on this shit product, then
> left.

> Which is fine too, several other sim developers have stepped up to the
> plate, with decent enough products since that debacle.  BTW the
> papyrus/sierra version of Nascar Racing 2003 is prolly still the best
> 'nascar' sim out there, and might be for a long time to come.  I sure wish
> I had bought all the copies I had in the bargain bin for 12 bucks, as I
> think you can sell them easily for 70-90 bucks at the moment on ebay?

> Timbo enlightened us with:
>> hi everyone,,of course im new but just ,,"HAD TO JOIN EA NSR
>> CONVERSATION"   pardon my typing method but what i have to say is more
>> important than proper english.   i was searching google for ea setups
>> and some how ran across a feb of 05 verbal exchange on ea nsr,
>> hacks,files being manipulated ,racing online,the physics,mirror,etc
>> etc. im sorry the names escape me but you know who you are. what a
>> great debate,meaning that sincerely,i read the whole verbal sparring
>> match.probally took 20 min or so,,lol,,,so i joined your group and not
>> a post since then?? or did i miss it? i am a simple simmer from way
>> back,im 43,bought my first papyrus in 90? 91? i was cool...a compauq
>> computer that was not quite as good as my video card is
>> now.,,lol,,,but its true,,, always been a pappy supporter till my son
>> bought me ea nsr and now being on dial up i gave it a try just to
>> play the ai.offline. i agreed,laughed,snickered while
>> disagreeing,withall the post and opinions i  was reading that i
>> forgot i was looking for setups. where you 2 or 3 gentleman***
>> nowadays,i would enjoy talking about anything concerning any racing

>> thank you all and look foward to talking to either or all.

> No, no.  There's a huge difference between EA's Nascar Sims
> (including 05) and Nascar Heat.

> Nascar Heat was a good sim and actually had some people who cared
> about it involved, even to the point of posting/taking questions here
> in this newsgroup.

> NSR isn't/doesn't/won't.

> -Larry

>> Dude,

>> Story of EA's NSR, is to a point over, game set match...

>> the game was rehashed HEAT (or was it just old nascar thunder sorry
>> right now I have not the time to go google it) tracks, code, setups
>> from the old game worked in new game.  Multiplay was Piss, everyone
>> familiar with heat, hacked at the game as they did before. Everything was
>> in anarchy online...

>> EA did nothing but lead everyone on that "this time by god we'll get
>> nascar right...'  some will support EA by saying clever marketing
>> practice, I mean at no time did EA ever say they would not release
>> the game as NSR05 as they did, and then follow up by issuing patches
>> through retail outlets in the form of NSR06, 07, et all.

>> But then even that has not happened, so IMHO and prolly most in
>> here, EA crapped on the community, they didnt even grunt on this
>> shit product, then left.

>> Which is fine too, several other sim developers have stepped up to
>> the plate, with decent enough products since that debacle.  BTW the
>> papyrus/sierra version of Nascar Racing 2003 is prolly still the best
>> 'nascar' sim out there, and might be for a long time to come.  I
>> sure wish I had bought all the copies I had in the bargain bin for
>> 12 bucks, as I think you can sell them easily for 70-90 bucks at the
>> moment on ebay? Timbo enlightened us with:
>>> hi everyone,,of course im new but just ,,"HAD TO JOIN EA NSR
>>> CONVERSATION"   pardon my typing method but what i have to say is
>>> more important than proper english.   i was searching google for ea
>>> setups and some how ran across a feb of 05 verbal exchange on ea
>>> nsr, hacks,files being manipulated ,racing online,the
>>> physics,mirror,etc etc. im sorry the names escape me but you know
>>> who you are. what a great debate,meaning that sincerely,i read the
>>> whole verbal sparring match.probally took 20 min or so,,lol,,,so i
>>> joined your group and not a post since then?? or did i miss it? i
>>> am a simple simmer from way back,im 43,bought my first papyrus in
>>> 90? 91? i was cool...a compauq computer that was not quite as good
>>> as my video card is now.,,lol,,,but its true,,, always been a pappy
>>> supporter till my son bought me ea nsr and now being on dial up i
>>> gave it a try just to play the ai.offline. i
>>> agreed,laughed,snickered while disagreeing,withall the post and
>>> opinions i  was reading that i forgot i was looking for setups.
>>> where you 2 or 3 gentleman*** nowadays,i would enjoy talking
>>>   about anything concerning any racing sim.   please contact me

>>> foward to talking to either or all.

>   Nascar Heat was coded by Monster Games Inc.(MGI).  Nascar Sim Racing
> comes from ISI via Tiburion.  Both MGI and Tiburion have hired ex Papyrus
> employees.
>   NH's code base is Viper Racing.  NSR's comes from SCGT via the ISI F1
> titles.
>  I don't have NSR,  I haven't poked around inside their text files, but
> the fact there were text files says it's ISI and not MGI.
>  I'd be interested if anyone could dig up the text Larry was referring to,
> not that I'm challenging him, but my curiosity has been picqued.<sp?>
> dave henrie

> About only being on dialup, well that pretty much takes you out of multiplay
> for sheesh I would say 99% of the games out there nowdays, except for about
> any Pappyrus created-produced Sims.  All of which (including NR03) I was
> ulucky enough to only recently get Broadband into the area I live, so I
> suffered through dialup at My league and sierra matchmaking lobbies without
> too much trouble, but I had a really good external modem making the
> connection.  My pings were like 120-200 but I seldom just warped all over
> the track like some do still today on BROADBAND lol...

> All the newer tittles I guarantee you will be heavily hadicapped over dialup
> with the bandwidth requirements to the server.

> Larry,

>  somewhere inside the game, I cannot recall ini's or was it .plr files or
> some shit,  it still had comments sections marked nascar heat that is all I
> was refering to about "rehashed Heat"

>> It was a plr file, and it was the same exact file used in NASCAR Thunder
>> 2004..line for line. A file, IIRC, that had the suspension properties
>> for the game.

>  Ok, WHOMever started the Heat pedigree, they crossed it up with Thunder
> which was an ISIbased title  F1c>Thunder>NSR.  Heat was not part of the
> equation.
> plr files are ISI.  ispso facto we are no longer confused.

> lol

> dave henrie

>   Ok, WHOMever started the Heat pedigree, they crossed it up with Thunder
> which was an ISIbased title  F1c>Thunder>NSR.  Heat was not part of the
> equation.
> plr files are ISI.  ispso facto we are no longer confused.

> lol