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by **Stephe** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The banked monza track is available for GP2. Could this be converted for GPL
?
I am told that the GP2 format would make a good standard for all third party
tracks.
How about a GP2 to GPL converter.

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I heartily endorse your reasoning, Phil.

Now go and make Solitude! :-)

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Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Trivia:-
The two banked turns (Karussell and the mini-Karussell) were never actually
designed as "banked" corners. The road surface is actually the flat tarmac;
the banking was designed as a gutter to allow rapid run-off of rain water!!

It was only after some smart drivers started to use the "banking" and
lowered their lap times that it became accepted practise by everyone racing
there to follow suit.

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
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> --

> > Didn't we here of problems with GPL cars on tracks with High banking.
> >I'm not sure I remember the thread, but wasn't the summary that
> >GPL's car physics are limited to a certain # of degrees and some of the
> >Nascar tracks exceeded that? The cars would stil run but exhibted odd
> >driving characteristics...
> > Anyone remember this?
> >Dave Henrie

> just curious.. What would the two banked turns be considered at
> Nurburgring? Anyhow, looking at the P-Ring, there might be a problem with
> banking. At first I thought it was just the two different formats (Nx vs.
> GPL) but after seeing P-Ring I have my doubts.

by **Andre Warring** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Bruce... sometimes, there are moments when you better can't say
anything... especially when I'm trying to convince Phil in making the
banked Monza! :)

Andre

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:27:53 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"

>I heartily endorse your reasoning, Phil.

>Now go and make Solitude! :-)

by **Andre Warring** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

It's a little bit disapointing, the banking in GP2 can't have more
than a 10 degrees (or so) banking... but fun nevertheless.

Andre

>www.alphaf1.com/gp2
>i forget where it is, but its there.

>> The banked monza track is available for GP2. Could this be converted for GPL
>> ?
>> I am told that the GP2 format would make a good standard for all third party
>> tracks.
>> How about a GP2 to GPL converter.

by **Michael E. Carve** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

% Didn't we here of problems with GPL cars on tracks with High banking.
% I'm not sure I remember the thread, but wasn't the summary that
% GPL's car physics are limited to a certain # of degrees and some of the
% Nascar tracks exceeded that? The cars would stil run but exhibted odd
% driving characteristics...
% Anyone remember this?
% Dave Henrie

I think this applied to the laws applying to creating AI files in GPL.

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by **Rand** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Did I read it here or someplace else that the grass and dirt "ditch"
at the Karussell was first used by Juan Fangio's mechanic while
checking out the car prior to a race. He told Juan, Juan used it in
the race and the next year they put the concrete down. I don't know
how close this is to the truth but it makes for a good story.

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:34:57 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"

>Trivia:-
>The two banked turns (Karussell and the mini-Karussell) were never actually
>designed as "banked" corners. The road surface is actually the flat tarmac;
>the banking was designed as a gutter to allow rapid run-off of rain water!!

>It was only after some smart drivers started to use the "banking" and
>lowered their lap times that it became accepted practise by everyone racing
>there to follow suit.

To email me remove the "u"s

by **Olav K. Malm** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

> Interesting. Coming saturday I will drive on the Ring for the first
> time (in real life), I'll let you know how those bankings feel!

Lucky bastard. Will that mean that you won't participate in IGPLC-F3
on sunday ? Not that a tradeoff like that would need any cosideration :)

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by **Andre Warrin** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I'm not sure Olav. Saturday I will go to Hockenheim (me and my friend
want to visit the cross placed at the spot where Clark died), then
we'll go to the Ring, and Sunday we will visit Spa and Zolder in
Belgium.
We'll be driving the Ring in my friend's Alfa 156. Problem is that he
has lowered his car very much, I hope this isn't too much of a problem
on the Ring...
Ofcourse I will make lots of photos and will post them online.

I hope I can make it back in time for the race!

Andre

>> Interesting. Coming saturday I will drive on the Ring for the first
>> time (in real life), I'll let you know how those bankings feel!

>Lucky bastard. Will that mean that you won't participate in IGPLC-F3
>on sunday ? Not that a tradeoff like that would need any cosideration :)

>--
>Olav K. Malmin
>remove spam when replying

by **Olav K. Malm** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

> I'm not sure Olav. Saturday I will go to Hockenheim (me and my friend
> want to visit the cross placed at the spot where Clark died), then
> we'll go to the Ring, and Sunday we will visit Spa and Zolder in
> Belgium.

Great, I can imagine you guys trying to do the Masta with public
traffic at 200 MPH :)

Yes please.

Hehe, then we will not hear other than your raving :))

ps: and please start your post after the qoute, things gets so messy :)

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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

But Solitude would be _SO_ much more entertaining, Andre! :-)

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> Bruce... sometimes, there are moments when you better can't say
> anything... especially when I'm trying to convince Phil in making the
> banked Monza! :)

> Andre

> On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:27:53 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"

> >I heartily endorse your reasoning, Phil.

> >Now go and make Solitude! :-)

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I thought that it was actually earlier than that, Randy....in the 1930's.
Once again, I need to cross-reference my reference library so that I can pin
these ***y tid-bits down once and for all! :-)

--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------

> Did I read it here or someplace else that the grass and dirt "ditch"
> at the Karussell was first used by Juan Fangio's mechanic while
> checking out the car prior to a race. He told Juan, Juan used it in
> the race and the next year they put the concrete down. I don't know
> how close this is to the truth but it makes for a good story.

> On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:34:57 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"

> >Trivia:-
> >The two banked turns (Karussell and the mini-Karussell) were never
actually
> >designed as "banked" corners. The road surface is actually the flat
tarmac;
> >the banking was designed as a gutter to allow rapid run-off of rain
water!!

> >It was only after some smart drivers started to use the "banking" and
> >lowered their lap times that it became accepted practise by everyone
racing
> >there to follow suit.

> To email me remove the "u"s

by **Hena H?kk?ne** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

>Interesting. Coming saturday I will drive on the Ring for the first
>time (in real life), I'll let you know how those bankings feel!

Prepare yourself for a rough ride! :). But the downward G-forces are great,
esp in Karusell. Read my report at http://fgplc.figc.net/

You can find links for Ring and Rouen reports from the bottom of the front
page.

Also, if you're interested, lots of pictures here:
http://puskarutaja.figc.net/spa.htm
http://puskarutaja.figc.net/nurburgr.htm
The pages are in Finnish but the pics are great :)

Hena

by **Olav K. Malm** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

> Also, if you're interested, lots of pictures here:
> http://puskarutaja.figc.net/spa.htm
> http://puskarutaja.figc.net/nurburgr.htm
> The pages are in Finnish but the pics are great :)

Great pictures. I first reacted to that there are a lot more threes
than in GPL, but then come to think about 1967 was 33 years ago, and
33 years worth of wood less :)

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by **Brett C. Camma** » Fri, 28 Apr 2000 04:00:00

On Thu, 27 Apr 2000 07:34:57 +1000, "Bruce Kennewell"

>Trivia:-
>The two banked turns (Karussell and the mini-Karussell) were never actually
>designed as "banked" corners. The road surface is actually the flat tarmac;
>the banking was designed as a gutter to allow rapid run-off of rain water!!

All I know is that they're a *** to hit just right. <g>

Regards,
Brett C. Cammack
That's Racing! Motorsports
Pompano Beach, FL

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