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TOCA lap times

Andrew Fielde

TOCA lap times

by Andrew Fielde » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Anybody watch the BTCC action at Thruxton this
weekend? I noticed that the best lap times were
in the region of 1:17. That's way outside the best
laps on Jonathan Hills TOCA site. Why such a big
difference?

--
Andrew Fielden.
UK.

John Hartridg

TOCA lap times

by John Hartridg » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00



I would guess that it's easier to cut corners in the
game than it is in real life.

John

Zonk

TOCA lap times

by Zonk » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00


>Path:
>Anybody watch the BTCC action at Thruxton this
>weekend? I noticed that the best lap times were
>in the region of 1:17. That's way outside the best
>laps on Jonathan Hills TOCA site. Why such a big
>difference?

TOCA (the game) is not quite set in reality? :)

Comparing the event program's estimation of cornering speeds/gear's it is
quite off. Most of the corners on the back section require braking and a lift
off or two, and that's just not evident in the game.

Plus, i think you'll find most of the real life boys don't quite throw it over
the chicane.

Interestingly, watching the cars going through the complex shows how difficult
it is to overtake there- mainly it's done going up the hill towards the
chicane.

Can't help but wish that TOCA 2 would include the toca package...

Vaxhaull Jr's/Sri challange
Renault Spiders/ Formula Renault Sport
Ford Fiesta/ Formula Ford...

now wouldn't that be some great fun? :)

btw, it seems to me that Thruxton is probably the least authentic in toca
tourign car- the run off's and fences are just not right at most points of the
circuit.

(granted, i haven't been to Knockhill yet, but i hopefully plan on getting
this to change...)

Z.

Nigel Cla

TOCA lap times

by Nigel Cla » Tue, 04 Aug 1998 04:00:00


>btw, it seems to me that Thruxton is probably the least authentic in toca
>tourign car- the run off's and fences are just not right at most points of the
>circuit.

The least authentic is Silverstone, the layout is just plain wrong.
You should go straight between Abbey and Bridge rather than use the
left-right at Farm. Farm is only used as part of the Grand Prix
circuit.


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Nathan Wo

TOCA lap times

by Nathan Wo » Thu, 06 Aug 1998 04:00:00

On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 12:58:14 +0100, Andrew Fielden


>Anybody watch the BTCC action at Thruxton this
>weekend? I noticed that the best lap times were
>in the region of 1:17. That's way outside the best
>laps on Jonathan Hills TOCA site. Why such a big
>difference?

One is a game, the other is the real thing.
I know its meant to be realistic, but lets get real here, if it was
THAT realistic, it wouldnt be half as much fun to play! Shortcuts
across corners, and having cars that are way more forgiving than a
real touring car is much better for a game. And its not a pure
simulation anyway, otherwise temperatures would change, circuit
conditions come into  play, tyres can grip more or less etc etc etc

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Andrew Fielde

TOCA lap times

by Andrew Fielde » Thu, 06 Aug 1998 04:00:00


> I know its meant to be realistic, but lets get real here, if it was
> THAT realistic, it wouldnt be half as much fun to play! Shortcuts
> across corners, and having cars that are way more forgiving than a
> real touring car is much better for a game. And its not a pure
> simulation anyway, otherwise temperatures would change, circuit
> conditions come into  play, tyres can grip more or less etc etc etc

Damn! and there was me thinking I could give Alain Menu
a run for his money :^)

--
Andrew Fielden.
UK.

m e i j

TOCA lap times

by m e i j » Tue, 11 Aug 1998 04:00:00

As everyone has said, the cornering speeds are silly in TOCA but the
biggest is the chicane. Too much use of the curbs in TOCA is fine but
in real life those things are BIG (I've seen a pretty heavy F3
accident there). The complex is also a little "rough" but as TOCA is
more of an arcade racer I don't really mind... after all it helps me
choose where to watch races from when I go to meetings more often than
not. :)

On Mon, 03 Aug 1998 12:58:14 +0100, Andrew Fielden


>Anybody watch the BTCC action at Thruxton this
>weekend? I noticed that the best lap times were
>in the region of 1:17. That's way outside the best
>laps on Jonathan Hills TOCA site. Why such a big
>difference?

>--
>Andrew Fielden.
>UK.


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