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by **Goy Larse** » Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:52:24

> ? Don't hold yer breath.

> Uhhh, ignoring the fact that the .dat files are now compressed (yet you can
> still drop any file into the folder instead of putting it inside the .dat),
> N4 shares the same engine as GPL and have very, very similar file
> architecture. It's just a matter of knowing how to, there won't be any
> difficulty transfering GPL tracks to N4 and vice-versa.

So you've done it then ? :-=

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by **ymenar** » Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:21:13

> So you've done it then ? :-=

I think everybody went as far as they could considering the demo didn't have
the full file lists and information.

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by **Nigel Pattinso** » Thu, 08 Feb 2001 21:12:57

You must have a different N4 demo from what I have. What I've seen is the
biggest change they've made since ICR1. Maybe longer, but I don't go back
that far.

Cheers
Nigel

by **Marc Fraio** » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 02:13:44

How is today's Nordschleife different from the one in GPL? I've seen
some in-car footage that people posted on the web, maybe I should go look
at it again. When I first watched it, I had only just started learning
the ring in GPL, and although I did recognize a few spots, a lot of it
was foreign to me when I saw it, both in the video and in GPL. :)

And while we're on the topic of track conversions, have the West brothers
made any comments about possible track compatibility/convertability
with GPL? Because I would dearly love to hustle the Audi R8 around
GPL's incarnations of the ring and Spa...

Marc

by **Eldre** » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 03:20:23

> i haven't tried, but I don't "THINK" they would just drop in. I suspect
>ol Dave Noonan is messing around with his track convertors to update them to
>get N4 and GPL tracks swapped back and fourth...
>dave henrie
>(imagine the Ring in a 3500 pound car................
>.....
>...........)

Imaging turn 1 on 'N4 ROC'...

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by **ymenar** » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 05:49:22

I don't see any major changes in the file architecture, what are those you
are saying?

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by **George M. Smile** » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:06:45

> How is today's Nordschleife different from the one in GPL.

In 1970 the track underwent a major rebuild. Corners were
straightened out, 'jumps' were removed, the hedges and a lot
of the surrounding vegetation was uprooted. In addition the
track was widened, a bit off run-off room was added here
and there and the armco barriers were installed.

It was also shortened by 10% in 1983 when they started working
on the new GP circuit.

All in all, what exists now is quite a bit faster than the version
in GPL which makes Clark's '67 time all the more remarkable.

- George

by **Mike Whit** » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 11:16:03

No Dover.trk file, No Dover.3DO, my guess is they have been combined into
Dover.ptf

> > You must have a different N4 demo from what I have. What I've seen is
the
> > biggest change they've made since ICR1. Maybe longer, but I don't go
back
> > that far.

> I don't see any major changes in the file architecture, what are those you
> are saying?

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> -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
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> hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

by **Nigel Pattinso** » Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:37:50

So you have a broad understanding of the 3dos and the ptf, and don't see
anything much different ?

Cheers
Nigel

by **ymenar** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:34:26

> So you have a broad understanding of the 3dos and the ptf, and don't see
> anything much different ?

Like I said, it's not a major change.

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by **Martin Granbe** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:13:10

>> So you have a broad understanding of the 3dos and the ptf, and don't see
>> anything much different ?

>Like I said, it's not a major change.

Then you definitely have a different demo than the rest of us.

Cheers,

/Martin

by **Goy Larse** » Sat, 10 Feb 2001 17:42:56

> > So you have a broad understanding of the 3dos and the ptf, and don't see
> > anything much different ?

> Like I said, it's not a major change.

C'mon Frank, give us examples.....

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by **Andrew MacPhers** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:52:00

> C'mon Frank, give us examples.....

I think I've mentioned this before, but when this was discussed on VROC a
while back Grant Reeve suggested conversion between N4 and GPL would *not*
be simple. He might be wrong <shrug>, only time will tell.

Andrew McP

by **Goy Larse** » Sun, 11 Feb 2001 19:42:46

> > C'mon Frank, give us examples.....

> I think I've mentioned this before, but when this was discussed on VROC a
> while back Grant Reeve suggested conversion between N4 and GPL would *not*
> be simple. He might be wrong <shrug>, only time will tell.

It is times like these I wish I had the old statement from a Papy
employee claiming that converting ICR2 tracks to N2 and the other way
around would be *impossible*...:-)

Guess we'll see in due time

But of course, we could always ask Frank

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by **Grant Reev** » Mon, 12 Feb 2001 01:29:05

> > > C'mon Frank, give us examples.....

> > I think I've mentioned this before, but when this was discussed on VROC a
> > while back Grant Reeve suggested conversion between N4 and GPL would *not*
> > be simple. He might be wrong <shrug>, only time will tell.

> It is times like these I wish I had the old statement from a Papy
> employee claiming that converting ICR2 tracks to N2 and the other way
> around would be *impossible*...:-)

> Guess we'll see in due time

Hey, I never said impossible! :) Given enough time, someone will
probably
figure it out.

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