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N4 and GPL Tracks

Tim Wheatle

N4 and GPL Tracks

by Tim Wheatle » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Okay, N4 is going to be developed heavily from GPL source, yes?

If so... could it be possible to take say..... the 'nurburg' track folder
from GPL and put it in the N4 calendar.... and actually have it work?

If their initial source code is similar, surely it will read in a similar
fasion? the only problems i can intially think of it pit row stalls and grid
placing, which in GPL is setup with space for only 20 cars (but if this
means we can only race 20 nascar cars, so be it, i'm not complaining!)

Also possible vice-versa, N4 to GPL, although there is little need, most of
us have them already from the converters etc.

Tim Wheatley,
Legends Central,
www.timwheatley.co.uk

Mark F

N4 and GPL Tracks

by Mark F » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

What are we even talking about this already for?  To my knowledge, papyrus
is barely past the pre-alpha stage if not still there, and we still don't
know whats going to happen.


Tim Wheatle

N4 and GPL Tracks

by Tim Wheatle » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I find it funny people still think that, yeah, they will of sat on their
advanced engine doing nothing with it during the production of n3 and n3trk
then? I think not :o)

Do you not remember the OLD n3 screenshots? (when n3 was supposed to be the
one using gpl engine), the shots from watkins glen with the 4 or 5 cars? you
don't remember the video? i do, and it was alpha or early beta and that was
months ago.

remember that to produce tracks is very little compared to refining a
physics engine, even if they just had 1 track - if they were happy with the
physics, then the engine is well advanced in production.


Stiff on

N4 and GPL Tracks

by Stiff on » Fri, 14 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I was thinking the same thing Tim. I hope it is true (being able to swap
tracks). You would think they would make it this way not only to sell to the
Nascar fans but as a sort of "track pack" for GPL (yea right we are talking
about Sierra here!).
Good question Tim. Lets keep our fingers crossed.........
Al Stiff


Stephen Ferguso

N4 and GPL Tracks

by Stephen Ferguso » Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Track pack + new 3DOs + new sounds on one disc.  Charge under 20 bucks and
move them out like hotcakes.  Just don't do anything funny like vintage
racing.  I'm a vintage fan and would give my two front teeth to drift a
Lotus Cortina around, but the market isn't there.

Not much work (hell, pay one of the talented 3rd party guys to produce
better looking cars than Papy does).

Stephen

John Simmo

N4 and GPL Tracks

by John Simmo » Sat, 15 Apr 2000 04:00:00

You don't have to change to the GPL track format to get GPL-like physics,
and believe me when I say (as a programmer), that a given developer will
re-use legacy code as much as humanly possible to cut down the time
required for developement, and I imagine that game developers are even
more concerned about this aspect.

The tracks in N3 are already pretty much as nice (visually) as the ones
in GPL. I wouldn't look for Papy to do any extra work to make the tracks
"compatible" between the two sims.

What would be nice is if Papy/Sierra would license someone to make new
carsets for GPL.  Papy has already stated the GPL physics engine will be
modified for N4, so don't look for identical physics.  Also, I'm sure
that nascar will have something to say about the "spectacular" aspect of
crashes, as they are still rumored to be interested in running an online
series, and they probably don't want to over-emphasize the dangerous side
of the sport.

Of course, everything I've said above is conjecture, and Papy could
surprise all of us with what they have planned.



>I was thinking the same thing Tim. I hope it is true (being able to swap
>tracks). You would think they would make it this way not only to sell to
>the Nascar fans but as a sort of "track pack" for GPL (yea right we are
>talking about Sierra here!).

>Good question Tim. Lets keep our fingers crossed.........
>Al Stiff



>> Okay, N4 is going to be developed heavily from GPL source, yes?

>> If so... could it be possible to take say..... the 'nurburg'
>> track folder from GPL and put it in the N4 calendar.... and
>> actually have it work?

>> If their initial source code is similar, surely it will read
>> in a similar fasion? the only problems i can intially think
>> of it pit row stalls and grid placing, which in GPL is setup
>> with space for only 20 cars (but if this means we can only
>> race 20 nascar cars, so be it, i'm not complaining!)

>> Also possible vice-versa, N4 to GPL, although there is little
>> need, most of us have them already from the converters etc.

>> Tim Wheatley,

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