rec.autos.simulators

by **Billy Moor** » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I've been away from r.a.s for a while, so forgive me if this is a common
discussion. I have and enjoy GP2, but I would like an F1 sim with 3D
acceleration and weather. Does F1RS have these features? I don't see any
discussions on F1RS, but. I've lurked for a while and noticed that GP2
still seems to be the F1 sim of choice. If it's still the best, I'll keep
it and enjoy it. I also found the Grandprix2.com history project. I got
chills at the thought of running laps against Mario and Nikki. That will
probably keep me busy for a long time. Is there any support of this type
for any of the other F1 sims?

Billy Moore

by **SlipStrea** » Thu, 09 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Get MGPRS2, the sequal to F1RS. It is a very nice sim but still falls a bit
short of the GPL physics model. It does have a nice career mode, season mode
and all sorts of variable weather. Fun racing from a overcast dry day into a
pouring ran, effects are really nice. D3D and Glide supported and can
probably be had on the cheap right now.

Ubisoft lost out on F1 license agreement but there are several sites that
have updated the game with 99/00 cars/tracks...Ubisoft did include a simple
updating application with the game for just this reason...NICE THINKING.

Anyway, if you need it now that is what I would go with, AI is pretty good
too...none of this NASCAR AI bullshit. If you can wait - well then GP3 (btw
has been pushed back to begining of July.)

http://www.the-unofficial.com/
is a top source for MGP-RS2

by **ymenar** » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I won't say a word about them Ubisoft game... but

If you are in the absolute need for a Formula 1 game that is focused on
simulation, then I unfortunately have to say "get MGPRS2", even if I
shouldn't say that. Heresy LOL. It's just that Gp2 is so versatile and the
gameplay is still there after all the years, with almost 1000tracks, carsets
for each year with car data, etc.. Seriously, just wait a couple of
months. Not even 3months. You'll have F1 2000 that will be released by EA
Sport. Even if it's not GPL nor Gp3, it will be better than MGPRS2.
Ubisoft It's not that hard to beat ;-D

Oops, sorry for that ;)

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by **David G Fishe** » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00

F1 2000 is being released at the end of this month.

David G Fisher

by **Gregor Vebl** » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00

> I've been away from r.a.s for a while, so forgive me if this is a common
> discussion. I have and enjoy GP2, but I would like an F1 sim with 3D
> acceleration and weather. Does F1RS have these features? I don't see any
> discussions on F1RS, but. I've lurked for a while and noticed that GP2
> still seems to be the F1 sim of choice. If it's still the best, I'll keep
> it and enjoy it. I also found the Grandprix2.com history project. I got
> chills at the thought of running laps against Mario and Nikki. That will
> probably keep me busy for a long time. Is there any support of this type
> for any of the other F1 sims?

> Billy Moore

Yes, F1RS does have these features. But the racing and driving
experience in GP2 still beats it IMHO. Still, I guess both have their
good and bad points. The engine and wheel spin model of F1RS does seem
to be a bit artificial, as are the spins. But the driving feel under
'normal' conditions is really good, especially in faster corners. GP2
seems to be a bit unforgiving in the tyre model, as they tend to let go
quite suddenly mking catching the car before it spins a real difficulty,
and this transition is probably better modeled in F1RS, although it may
be just as difficult in the real life (otherwise F1 drivers would never
spin).

If you can get F1RS cheap, it shouldn't be missed. I still play both
from time to time, but GP2 does give me more of the being there feel.

by **Anthony Brook** » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00

If you want weather effects, then I would go with MGPR2, the updated version
of F1RS. People said to wait for F1-2000, it won't have weather in it. I
just recently purchased GP2 off of e-bay. I know I'll get slammed for this
but... I just can't get into it. Maybe if I bought it 4-5 years ago, then it
might be alright. True you can customize it in may ways, but driving...I'll
pass. I feel MGPR2 is alot better than GP2. Which one is best will always be
debateable, just like the debate over Quake3 and Unreal Tournament over in
another newsgroup.

Anthony

by **Zonk** » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00

>If you want weather effects, then I would go with MGPR2, the updated version
>of F1RS. People said to wait for F1-2000, it won't have weather in it. I
>just recently purchased GP2 off of e-bay. I know I'll get slammed for this
>but... I just can't get into it. Maybe if I bought it 4-5 years ago, then it
>might be alright. True you can customize it in may ways, but driving...I'll
>pass. I feel MGPR2 is alot better than GP2. Which one is best will always be
>debateable, just like the debate over Quake3 and Unreal Tournament over in
>another newsgroup.

Cna't help but agree. Gp2 is very very forgiving to drive and it's well- not
easy- but not hard to be consistent. MGPRS2 has a much more "knife-edge" feel
to it. When you *push* a lap, it feels like you're giving it your all... which
is why i like it - Great 3D support, 3D sound & with new car sets+ FF, it's a
winner.

Z.

Please remove my_pants when replying.

by **Billy Moor** » Fri, 10 Mar 2000 04:00:00

GP2 forgiving? Please tell me you use traction control or steering help. I
use only autoshift and I think the cars are very UNforgiving. I like what
everyone says about MGPRS2, but if it's harder to drive than GP2 with no
aids, I may say thanks, but no thanks.

Billy

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sat, 11 Mar 2000 04:00:00

MGPRS2 is definately easier to drive than no-helps GP2, IMO. Vehicle
response is more consistent. Also slightly more forgiving in the "got
it/ain't got it" department.

GPL remains king for exploring the edges of the envelope (and living to tell
;-)) though.

Jan.
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