Can anyone reccommend a site with some good but easy to use setups for gpl.
regards
Try the greatest setup page on the net ...
http://website.lineone.net/~richardn/
I don't get paid to advertise the site honest! :) but Richard .. (typical
brit :) is too modest to post the address himself!
The universal lotus, ferrari and cooper setups are meant to be great ... but
best of all using the info on the page you will be able to tweak to your
liking since everything is so well explained.
I treat everything on this page as gospel ... most other places will just
provide you with incorrect info and tips
hope this helps
Marc
ps - if you drive the nurburgring at all send me an e-mail.... I have
developed some setups which not only have taken me to the world records but
are developed with drivability as the primary consideration.
gpl.
Check out Alison Hines setups at VROC.
Joel Willstein
>Try the greatest setup page on the net ...
>http://website.lineone.net/~richardn/
>I don't get paid to advertise the site honest! :) but Richard .. (typical
>brit :) is too modest to post the address himself!
>The universal lotus, ferrari and cooper setups are meant to be great ...
but
>best of all using the info on the page you will be able to tweak to your
>liking since everything is so well explained.
>I treat everything on this page as gospel ... most other places will just
>provide you with incorrect info and tips
>hope this helps
>Marc
>ps - if you drive the nurburgring at all send me an e-mail.... I have
>developed some setups which not only have taken me to the world records but
>are developed with drivability as the primary consideration.
I've seen hundreds of posts about Alison's setups, but this is the 1st
negative one. Having used her Ferrari setup, it is by far the most balanced
and best setup created for GPL. It may not suit your driving style, but to
call them fundametally unbalanced is more than a little off target.
-Andrew
I tried Alison's set-ups too, quite a while back. Out of respect for her.
Because I think that she has contributed a bunch to GPL and to the people here
who love the game. And BTW it is just a game. I had hit the wall, so to speak at
Zandvoort and was looking for some help. Mind you that I've never used anyones
set-up but my own. So I tried Alison's Ferrari ( high rider) set-up for a
change. And I have to say that they were way too pushy for my style. I've been
setting up Dirt Modified cars for 15 years, so I like the car to turn.....easy.
"Loose is fast.....tight is slow!" Nothing at all against Alison but her set-up
just didn't fit my style. However I did learn some things by using them. Now, I
don't want to get on anyones flame or "plonk" list but the link to the original
post in this thread to Richard Nunnini's site should be required reading for
anyone playing GPL.
IMHO , Richard should have written "Four Wheel Drift" instead of Steve Smith.
Cause I learned a lot more from Richard than I did from Steve. Now to be fair,
Richard Nunnini's set-up advice tends toward understeer as well but he explains
things in great detail and has some data that I've not seen anywhere else. Just
D/Ling a set-up is not the key to going fast. The real trick is to know what to
change, why you are changing it and what the result will be before you change
it. Mr. Nunnuni has the information to help you do that. DBH
Three cheers for Richard!!!
The key is here>> http://website.lineone.net/~richardn/Setups.html
I'd just like to add that, although the earlier setups did
understeer midcorner a little, the latest (Nunnini4.??1) are designed
to be completely neutral. I find that they can occasionally 'bite you'
with snap oversteer - realistic, maybe? - but they're generally better
over a race distance like this, as the front tires stay relatively
cooler.
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Before you buy.
This in no way detracts from Alisons setups, they are easy to drive and
quite fast, but as Marc says they are fundamentally unbalanced.
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> > Alisons setups are great to start with, but are fundamentaly unbalanced
> and
> > may leave you frustrated
> I've seen hundreds of posts about Alison's setups, but this is the 1st
> negative one. Having used her Ferrari setup, it is by far the most
balanced
> and best setup created for GPL. It may not suit your driving style, but
to
> call them fundametally unbalanced is more than a little off target.
> -Andrew
> I'd just like to add that, although the earlier setups did
> understeer midcorner a little, the latest (Nunnini4.??1) are designed
> to be completely neutral. I find that they can occasionally 'bite you'
> with snap oversteer - realistic, maybe? - but they're generally better
> over a race distance like this, as the front tires stay relatively
> cooler.
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
An excellent explanation of Alisons' setups vs. a typical fast but
oversteering setup,that only a handful of drivers in gpl have mastered.
Personally,I'm one of the neutral at best drivers. Anything with too much
oversteer results in spins every lap for me.
JA Willstein
> I tried Alison's set-ups too, quite a while back. Out of respect for her.
> Because I think that she has contributed a bunch to GPL and to the people here
> who love the game. And BTW it is just a game. I had hit the wall, so to speak at
> Zandvoort and was looking for some help. Mind you that I've never used anyones
> set-up but my own. So I tried Alison's Ferrari ( high rider) set-up for a
> change. And I have to say that they were way too pushy for my style. I've been
> setting up Dirt Modified cars for 15 years, so I like the car to turn.....easy.
> "Loose is fast.....tight is slow!" Nothing at all against Alison but her set-up
> just didn't fit my style. However I did learn some things by using them. Now, I
> don't want to get on anyones flame or "plonk" list but the link to the original
> post in this thread to Richard Nunnini's site should be required reading for
> anyone playing GPL.
When I first started GPL, I jumped in the Ferrari and slid through every turn I
could. This is wonderfully fun, but before long my rear tires are slag. Slowly I
realised that there were other ways to get around the track. As I learn and combine
new techniques, my lap times are getting steadily quicker - most rewarding!
Richard's site is _very_ helpful, although I don't agree with 100% of his statements
/ theories.
Greg's $0.02
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My statement was not meant to be negative about alisons setups, they make a
fantastic starting point, and infact all my setups have evolved from hers.
However ... I do believe that they are fundamentally unbalanced in that they
do understeer (a lot) for example ...on a steadly throttle in a long even
radius corner you wil notice that the car will significantly understeer
(require you to use more steering lock than you should have to)
I believe the bigest cause of the understeer is her choice of spring values
(front too close to rear value). Richards theory with springs solves this ..
although does require individual tweaking from car to car.
Marc
>I'd just like to add that, although the earlier setups did
>understeer midcorner a little, the latest (Nunnini4.??1) are designed
>to be completely neutral. I find that they can occasionally 'bite you'
>with snap oversteer - realistic, maybe? - but they're generally better
>over a race distance like this, as the front tires stay relatively
>cooler.
Thanks,
Ruud van Gaal
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