How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
Masa
Masa
Alanb
> Alanb
> > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin system.
> > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> > Masa
Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad. Fact is,
from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the track at a
time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But then you
can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the track.
There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if your car
is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two wheels always
on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
Alanb
> > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the icon to upload
> lap
> > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
> > Alanb
> > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin system.
> > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> > > Masa
Masa
> Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad. Fact is,
> from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the track at a
> time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But then you
> can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the track.
> There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if your car
> is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two wheels always
> on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
> Alanb
> > Thanks. I've tried the statistics window before, but my fastest laptimes
> > were all rejected because of me cutting off the track too much :( I
think
> > the 'cut-off margin' of the track is very (too) minimal.
> > > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the icon to
upload
> > lap
> > > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
> > > Alanb
> > > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin system.
> > > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> > > > Masa
Jason
>Masa
>> Masahiro,
>> Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad. Fact is,
>> from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the track at a
>> time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But then you
>> can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the track.
>> There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if your car
>> is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two wheels always
>> on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
>> Alanb
>> > Thanks. I've tried the statistics window before, but my fastest laptimes
>> > were all rejected because of me cutting off the track too much :( I
>think
>> > the 'cut-off margin' of the track is very (too) minimal.
>> > > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the icon to
>upload
>> > lap
>> > > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
>> > > Alanb
>> > > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin system.
>> > > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
>> > > > Masa
That's the problem.
Valid for game does not equal valid for World rankings list.
They need to patch it so that they are the same.
Very frustrating when you've been used to racing one line in the game,
putting up good numbers, then you have to find new lines for uploading to
the rankings list.
Jon
> Jason
> >Alanb, you're absolutely right. It is just me not being fast enough (in a
> >fair way) for the higher positions in the world ranking!
> >I am racing in Monza, and there is plenty of room to cut off the track,
> >without your laptimes being invalid, but when you check the same lap in
the
> >telemetry part, it is rejected for the world ranking. So, the so called
> >'cut-off margin' in the game itself is much wider than it is in the world
> >ranking lists.
> >Masa
> >> Masahiro,
> >> Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad. Fact
is,
> >> from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the track at
a
> >> time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But then you
> >> can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the track.
> >> There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if your
car
> >> is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two wheels
always
> >> on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
> >> Alanb
> >> > Thanks. I've tried the statistics window before, but my fastest
laptimes
> >> > were all rejected because of me cutting off the track too much :( I
> >think
> >> > the 'cut-off margin' of the track is very (too) minimal.
> >> > > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the icon to
> >upload
> >> > lap
> >> > > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
> >> > > Alanb
> >> > > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin
system.
> >> > > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> >> > > > Masa
What's valid or not valid comes down to this. You must have at least two
wheels on the track at all times. This you "can't follow the groove at
either Monaco or Australia" and get valid lap times is incorrect, unless the
groove is completely off the track. I drive over the curbing quite often
and my laps are valid. There is no way that following the groove in the
game is going to get you invalid times.
Alanb
> >Alanb, you're absolutely right. It is just me not being fast enough (in a
> >fair way) for the higher positions in the world ranking!
> >I am racing in Monza, and there is plenty of room to cut off the track,
> >without your laptimes being invalid, but when you check the same lap in
the
> >telemetry part, it is rejected for the world ranking. So, the so called
> >'cut-off margin' in the game itself is much wider than it is in the world
> >ranking lists.
> >Masa
> >> Masahiro,
> >> Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad. Fact
is,
> >> from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the track at
a
> >> time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But then you
> >> can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the track.
> >> There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if your
car
> >> is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two wheels
always
> >> on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
> >> Alanb
> >> > Thanks. I've tried the statistics window before, but my fastest
laptimes
> >> > were all rejected because of me cutting off the track too much :( I
> >think
> >> > the 'cut-off margin' of the track is very (too) minimal.
> >> > > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the icon to
> >upload
> >> > lap
> >> > > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
> >> > > Alanb
> >> > > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin
system.
> >> > > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> >> > > > Masa
I can completely go off the track, where all four of my tires are in the
grass, and it's still a valid lap time, in the game. Surely you can't mean
that this should be a valid lap time in the rankings?
The criteria is this-- very fair and objective, in my estimation-- you must
have at least two wheels (it may only be one) on the track at all times. If
you're not getting valid times, then you're attempting to cut, where all
wheels are off the track, completely. Seems more than fair for me.
Alanb
> Very frustrating when you've been used to racing one line in the game,
> putting up good numbers, then you have to find new lines for uploading to
> the rankings list.
> Jon
> > I have no idea what they're basing the legality of laptimes on, but I
> > know that you can't follow the groove at either Monaco or Australia
> > and have a valid laptime, as I've recorded dozens of laps where I only
> > drive over the curbing where the groove indicates that you're supposed
> > to. Of course, they're all valid laps in the game.
> > Jason
> > >Alanb, you're absolutely right. It is just me not being fast enough (in
a
> > >fair way) for the higher positions in the world ranking!
> > >I am racing in Monza, and there is plenty of room to cut off the track,
> > >without your laptimes being invalid, but when you check the same lap in
> the
> > >telemetry part, it is rejected for the world ranking. So, the so called
> > >'cut-off margin' in the game itself is much wider than it is in the
world
> > >ranking lists.
> > >Masa
> > >> Masahiro,
> > >> Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad. Fact
> is,
> > >> from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the track
at
> a
> > >> time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But then
you
> > >> can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the
track.
> > >> There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if
your
> car
> > >> is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two wheels
> always
> > >> on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
> > >> Alanb
> > >> > Thanks. I've tried the statistics window before, but my fastest
> laptimes
> > >> > were all rejected because of me cutting off the track too much
:( I
> > >think
> > >> > the 'cut-off margin' of the track is very (too) minimal.
> > >> > > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the icon to
> > >upload
> > >> > lap
> > >> > > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
> > >> > > Alanb
> > >> > > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin
> system.
> > >> > > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> > >> > > > Masa
It's not a big deal to me since I'm no world record threat, but if I
were pulling quick times I'd be annoyed. As it is, I'm having good
races with the AI at 85% which is pretty sad..
Jason
> > Exactly!
> > That's the problem.
> > Valid for game does not equal valid for World rankings list.
> I can completely go off the track, where all four of my tires are in the
> grass, and it's still a valid lap time, in the game. Surely you can't
mean
> that this should be a valid lap time in the rankings?
> The criteria is this-- very fair and objective, in my estimation-- you
must
> have at least two wheels (it may only be one) on the track at all times.
If
> you're not getting valid times, then you're attempting to cut, where all
> wheels are off the track, completely. Seems more than fair for me.
> Alanb
> > They need to patch it so that they are the same.
> > Very frustrating when you've been used to racing one line in the game,
> > putting up good numbers, then you have to find new lines for uploading
to
> > the rankings list.
> > Jon
> > > I have no idea what they're basing the legality of laptimes on, but I
> > > know that you can't follow the groove at either Monaco or Australia
> > > and have a valid laptime, as I've recorded dozens of laps where I only
> > > drive over the curbing where the groove indicates that you're supposed
> > > to. Of course, they're all valid laps in the game.
> > > Jason
> > > >Alanb, you're absolutely right. It is just me not being fast enough
(in
> a
> > > >fair way) for the higher positions in the world ranking!
> > > >I am racing in Monza, and there is plenty of room to cut off the
track,
> > > >without your laptimes being invalid, but when you check the same lap
in
> > the
> > > >telemetry part, it is rejected for the world ranking. So, the so
called
> > > >'cut-off margin' in the game itself is much wider than it is in the
> world
> > > >ranking lists.
> > > >Masa
> > > >> Masahiro,
> > > >> Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad.
Fact
> > is,
> > > >> from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the track
> at
> > a
> > > >> time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But then
> you
> > > >> can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the
> track.
> > > >> There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if
> your
> > car
> > > >> is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two wheels
> > always
> > > >> on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
> > > >> Alanb
> > > >> > Thanks. I've tried the statistics window before, but my fastest
> > laptimes
> > > >> > were all rejected because of me cutting off the track too much
> :( I
> > > >think
> > > >> > the 'cut-off margin' of the track is very (too) minimal.
> > > >> > > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the icon
to
> > > >upload
> > > >> > lap
> > > >> > > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
> > > >> > > Alanb
> > > >> > > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin
> > system.
> > > >> > > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> > > >> > > > Masa
> >What's valid or not valid comes down to this. You must have at least two
> >wheels on the track at all times. This you "can't follow the groove at
> >either Monaco or Australia" and get valid lap times is incorrect, unless
the
> >groove is completely off the track.
> The groove at Monaco and Australia indicates that you should have your
> outside wheels on the curbing at several spots. Grr, I can't remember
> the actual turn names but here goes. The 3rd gear left following the
> first 2nd gear right (i.e. the 2nd right hand turn on the course) at
> Australia has a darkened groove that is completely on the pavement
> inside the curbing at the apex and outside the curbing at the exit.
> At Monaco, the second chicane (not the one after the downhill run
> coming out of the tunnel, but the one following the next turn, a 3rd
> degree left) has a darkened groove that indicatest that your outside
> tires should be on the curb and your right sides full off - something
> that is viewed as invalid in the telemetry program but is fine in the
> game, naturally, since that's where the cars are supposed to drive.
Alanb
Anyhow, you'd have the option, if you wanted, to disable this in the rules.
Alanb
> > > Exactly!
> > > That's the problem.
> > > Valid for game does not equal valid for World rankings list.
> > I can completely go off the track, where all four of my tires are in the
> > grass, and it's still a valid lap time, in the game. Surely you can't
> mean
> > that this should be a valid lap time in the rankings?
> > The criteria is this-- very fair and objective, in my estimation-- you
> must
> > have at least two wheels (it may only be one) on the track at all times.
> If
> > you're not getting valid times, then you're attempting to cut, where all
> > wheels are off the track, completely. Seems more than fair for me.
> > Alanb
> > > They need to patch it so that they are the same.
> > > Very frustrating when you've been used to racing one line in the game,
> > > putting up good numbers, then you have to find new lines for uploading
> to
> > > the rankings list.
> > > Jon
> > > > I have no idea what they're basing the legality of laptimes on, but
I
> > > > know that you can't follow the groove at either Monaco or Australia
> > > > and have a valid laptime, as I've recorded dozens of laps where I
only
> > > > drive over the curbing where the groove indicates that you're
supposed
> > > > to. Of course, they're all valid laps in the game.
> > > > Jason
> > > > >Alanb, you're absolutely right. It is just me not being fast enough
> (in
> > a
> > > > >fair way) for the higher positions in the world ranking!
> > > > >I am racing in Monza, and there is plenty of room to cut off the
> track,
> > > > >without your laptimes being invalid, but when you check the same
lap
> in
> > > the
> > > > >telemetry part, it is rejected for the world ranking. So, the so
> called
> > > > >'cut-off margin' in the game itself is much wider than it is in the
> > world
> > > > >ranking lists.
> > > > >Masa
> > > > >> Masahiro,
> > > > >> Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad.
> Fact
> > > is,
> > > > >> from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the
track
> > at
> > > a
> > > > >> time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But
then
> > you
> > > > >> can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the
> > track.
> > > > >> There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if
> > your
> > > car
> > > > >> is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two
wheels
> > > always
> > > > >> on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
> > > > >> Alanb
> > > > >> > Thanks. I've tried the statistics window before, but my fastest
> > > laptimes
> > > > >> > were all rejected because of me cutting off the track too much
> > :( I
> > > > >think
> > > > >> > the 'cut-off margin' of the track is very (too) minimal.
> > > > >> > > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the
icon
> to
> > > > >upload
> > > > >> > lap
> > > > >> > > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
> > > > >> > > Alanb
> > > > >> > > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin
> > > system.
> > > > >> > > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> > > > >> > > > Masa
Regards
David Powell (no aids non lamer)
> >Two wheels always
> >on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
> Somone should tell the AI cars that rule applies to them too.
> > Exactly!
> > That's the problem.
> > Valid for game does not equal valid for World rankings list.
> I can completely go off the track, where all four of my tires are in the
> grass, and it's still a valid lap time, in the game. Surely you can't
mean
> that this should be a valid lap time in the rankings?
> The criteria is this-- very fair and objective, in my estimation-- you
must
> have at least two wheels (it may only be one) on the track at all times.
If
> you're not getting valid times, then you're attempting to cut, where all
> wheels are off the track, completely. Seems more than fair for me.
> Alanb
> > They need to patch it so that they are the same.
> > Very frustrating when you've been used to racing one line in the game,
> > putting up good numbers, then you have to find new lines for uploading
to
> > the rankings list.
> > Jon
> > > I have no idea what they're basing the legality of laptimes on, but I
> > > know that you can't follow the groove at either Monaco or Australia
> > > and have a valid laptime, as I've recorded dozens of laps where I only
> > > drive over the curbing where the groove indicates that you're supposed
> > > to. Of course, they're all valid laps in the game.
> > > Jason
> > > >Alanb, you're absolutely right. It is just me not being fast enough
(in
> a
> > > >fair way) for the higher positions in the world ranking!
> > > >I am racing in Monza, and there is plenty of room to cut off the
track,
> > > >without your laptimes being invalid, but when you check the same lap
in
> > the
> > > >telemetry part, it is rejected for the world ranking. So, the so
called
> > > >'cut-off margin' in the game itself is much wider than it is in the
> world
> > > >ranking lists.
> > > >Masa
> > > >> Masahiro,
> > > >> Actually the 'cut-off margin' for EA's hot lapping is not bad.
Fact
> > is,
> > > >> from how I understand it, as long as you have to tires on the track
> at
> > a
> > > >> time, then it's a go. That's better than the centerline. But then
> you
> > > >> can't expect your laps to be valid if you're completely off the
> track.
> > > >> There's got to be some cut off, and it can't be something like if
> your
> > car
> > > >> is four car lengths from the track you're disqualified. Two wheels
> > always
> > > >> on the track is fair enough, IMHO.
> > > >> Alanb
> > > >> > Thanks. I've tried the statistics window before, but my fastest
> > laptimes
> > > >> > were all rejected because of me cutting off the track too much
> :( I
> > > >think
> > > >> > the 'cut-off margin' of the track is very (too) minimal.
> > > >> > > Select statistics and another window appears. Choose the icon
to
> > > >upload
> > > >> > lap
> > > >> > > times, enter your email and password, and you're done.
> > > >> > > Alanb
> > > >> > > > From the telemetry screen, you can select the world rankin
> > system.
> > > >> > > > How do you upload your laptimes to this ranking?
> > > >> > > > Masa