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GPL: Nurburgring

Steven Dickso

GPL: Nurburgring

by Steven Dickso » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:29:17

Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at
the Nurburgring?  The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put
together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions.
These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much
quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap".
Tyler Eave

GPL: Nurburgring

by Tyler Eave » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:31:55


>Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at
>the Nurburgring?  The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put
>together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions.
>These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much
>quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap".

Sure!

Open the nurburg track.ini

and change the stall_0 =  line to:

stall_0 = 20000.00 0

Notice the space before the last 0.

This is start you in the middle of the long straight, giving you about 30
secs to heat your
tires up before you cross s/f.

you can change it to ~ 21500.00 to start in Tiergarten

Steven Dickso

GPL: Nurburgring

by Steven Dickso » Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:37:22


Thanks :)

Peter Kuijper

GPL: Nurburgring

by Peter Kuijper » Tue, 24 Apr 2001 02:15:14

If you're just doing practice laps, you can change the place of your pitbox to
anywhere on the track by editing the "track.ini" thats in de folder
"\sierra\gpl\tracks\nurburg".

Somewhere in the track.ini is a list of stalls. When you practice you always get
stall_0. By changing the two values after is you can position yourself anywhere
on the track! The first is the amount of meters after the start/finish line, the
second is the amount you are to the left or right of the center of the track
(negative is to the right).

Below are some of the values I have in my track.ini. Experiment with it.

stall_0 = 230.00 -9.30  ; original pit
;stall_0 = 19200.00 0   ; start of long straight
;stall_0 = 11200.00 0   ; halfway
;stall_0 = 13200.00 0   ; just before caroussel
stall_1 = 219.47 -9.30
stall_2 = 208.95 -9.30
stall_3 = 198.42 -9.30
stall_4 = 187.89 -9.30

Good luck on the Ring.

Peter


>Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at
>the Nurburgring?  The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put
>together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions.
>These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much
>quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap".

Eldre

GPL: Nurburgring

by Eldre » Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:15:17



>Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at
>the Nurburgring?  The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put
>together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions.
>These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much
>quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap".

Well, that just means that you need more practice.<g>  You'll get there - keep
digging.  Soon, you'll be able to run 14 laps...

Eldred
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mfraiol..

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by mfraiol.. » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 02:22:11



Others have explained how to move your pitbox, but I might also add that
if you're just in training mode, and you're just learning the Ring, it
might help to turn damage off.  That way you can keep practicing on hot
tires, etc., all the way around without having to shift-r or something
to repair damage.

        Marc

Rob Adam

GPL: Nurburgring

by Rob Adam » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 03:21:24

If only there were "no flip" and "no stuck in hedge" options as well as "no
damage" :(




> > Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice
at
> > the Nurburgring?  The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to
put
> > together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions.
> > These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably
much
> > quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap".

> Others have explained how to move your pitbox, but I might also add that
> if you're just in training mode, and you're just learning the Ring, it
> might help to turn damage off.  That way you can keep practicing on hot
> tires, etc., all the way around without having to shift-r or something
> to repair damage.

> Marc

Steven Dickso

GPL: Nurburgring

by Steven Dickso » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:51:59


[snip]
 > Others have explained how to move your pitbox, but I might also add that
 > if you're just in training mode, and you're just learning the Ring, it
 > might help to turn damage off.  That way you can keep practicing on hot
 > tires, etc., all the way around without having to shift-r or something
 > to repair damage.
 >

Doh!  I'd completely forgotten about Shift-R.  That'll make things a _lot_
easier!

J

GPL: Nurburgring

by J » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:17:40

Eldred,
you're *** ;-)

Steven,
there is a utility called Ringtrainer (check with goggle for the URL)
You can change your starting location to anywhere on the track. Chose something
before the long straight, so your tires will be fairly warm when starting the
lot lap.

JensSchumi




>>Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at
>>the Nurburgring?  The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put
>>together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions.
>>These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much
>>quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap".

>Well, that just means that you need more practice.<g>  You'll get there - keep
>digging.  Soon, you'll be able to run 14 laps...

>Eldred

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Asbj?rn Bj?rnst

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by Asbj?rn Bj?rnst » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:25:27


> Doh!  I'd completely forgotten about Shift-R.  That'll make things a _lot_
> easier!

I wish I was as consistent...
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Eldre

GPL: Nurburgring

by Eldre » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:08:12


writes:

Who, me?  <g>
I just figured if he was crashing that much, simply moving the pitlane wasn't
going to help.  He'd *still* need to learn the track a whole lot better.  Trust
me, I've been there...

Eldred
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Steven Dickso

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by Steven Dickso » Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:17:41


I'm down to about 2 off-track excursions per lap now and a best time of just
under 9:20.  The only problem is that one or the other of those shunts is
usually enough to either knock a wheel off or damage the suspension so badly
that I limp around for the rest of the lap.  I had forgotten about the
Shift-R reset, so a crash 3/4 of the way through an otherwise good lap was
enough to make me walk away in frustration.

With the reset handy, I can afford to be more aggressive, spend more time
learning the latter half of the track and actually enjoy the 'Ring rather
than tip-toeing around it.

Eldre

GPL: Nurburgring

by Eldre » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:15:27





>> Who, me?  <g>
>> I just figured if he was crashing that much, simply moving the pitlane
>wasn't
>> going to help.  He'd *still* need to learn the track a whole lot better.
>Trust
>> me, I've been there...

>I'm down to about 2 off-track excursions per lap now and a best time of just
>under 9:20.  The only problem is that one or the other of those shunts is
>usually enough to either knock a wheel off or damage the suspension so badly
>that I limp around for the rest of the lap.  I had forgotten about the
>Shift-R reset, so a crash 3/4 of the way through an otherwise good lap was
>enough to make me walk away in frustration.

>With the reset handy, I can afford to be more aggressive, spend more time
>learning the latter half of the track and actually enjoy the 'Ring rather
>than tip-toeing around it.

Ah.  I was mis-understanding.  I figured you were *already* using Shift-r, but
you had more 'offs' on the second lap for some reason...

Eldred
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Robert Grave

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by Robert Grave » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:24:43

Steven.  Copy and paste the following in your Nurburgring track .ini .

It will let you start at the beginning of the long straight.  Also, it will
not prevent you from joining online Nurburgring races.

Robert

[ track ]
track_name = Nrburgring
track_name_short = Nrburgring
track_num_turns = 174
track_length = 14.189m
track_altitude = 0.0
  ; Above, note track length given in miles,
  ; while altitude given in meters.

[ configuration_0 ]
  ; Format: dlong, start dlat, end dlat, time penalty (sec), 0 (required)
  ; 3 checkpoint minimum
checkpoint_0 = 2037.0  -14.0   7.5  5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Nordkehre II
checkpoint_1 = 2763.3  -14.7   7.0  5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Hatzenbach II
checkpoint_2 = 3138.0  -14.3   6.5  5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Hocheichen
checkpoint_3 = 7069.5   -9.0  11.0 10.0 0 ; prevents cutting Adenauer Forst

[ statistics ]
reference_value = 500.0

[ ai_track ]
end_start_behavior_section = 5.000000    ; section at which race start
behavior should end
merge_from_pit_line_dlong = 19900.000000 ; dlong at which cars leaving pits
will merge to race line
pit_at_end_of_track = 1.0   ; 0 if all stalls beyond s/f, 1 if not
pit_lane_end_dlong = 19860.000000            ; dlong where pit lane divider
ends
pit_lane_entrance_width = 114.0   ; dlong width of pit lane entrance in
meters
pit_lane_has_wall = 0.000000             ; 0 if no pit wall, 1 if pit wall
exists
pit_lane_on_right = 1.000000             ; 0 if lane on left, 1 if on right
pit_lane_start_dlong = 20740.400000       ; base dlong for calculating
transition to pit line
pit_lane_width_left = 2.000000           ; width of pit lane in meters to
LEFT of PIT.LP
pit_lane_width_right = 4.100000          ; width of pit lane in meters to
RIGHT of PIT.LP
start_of_pit_stalls = 19630.000000         ; dlong where pit stalls begin
brabham_fuel_load_per_lap = 8.88  ; Brabham AI fuel loading in liters per
lap
brm_fuel_load_per_lap = 10.90   ; BRM AI fuel loading in liters per lap
coventry_fuel_load_per_lap = 9.80  ; Coventry AI fuel loading in liters per
lap
eagle_fuel_load_per_lap = 9.94   ; Eagle AI fuel loading in liters per lap
ferrari_fuel_load_per_lap = 10.06  ; Ferrari AI fuel loading in liters per
lap
lotus_fuel_load_per_lap = 9.47   ; Lotus AI fuel loading in liters per lap
murasama_fuel_load_per_lap = 11.09  ; Murasama AI fuel loading in liters per
lap

track_global_hype_scaling = 0.75  ; scale back effects of GH at 'ring

[ GP ]
dlong_speed_adj_coeff = 1.040000                ; value modifies dlong
velocities (i.e. RELS) in .LP
dlong_speed_maximum = 2.390000           ; max. dlong speed (meters/tick)
for .LP after all modifiers (e.g., dlong_speed_adj_coeff)

[ pit_lane_0 ]
lane_on_right = 1    ; 0 if lane on left, 1 if on right
lane_has_wall = 0    ; 0 if no pit wall, 1 if pit wall exists
lane_bounds_dlong = 20740.4 19880.1  ; start/end dlong of the pit lane
lane_bounds_dlat = -6.1 -3.4   ; start/end dlat of the pit lane
pit_board = 11.0 1200.0 -100.0 100.0  ; dlat of board, dlong of board, dlong
LOS start, dlong LOS end (last 2 not used)

stall_0 = 19780.00 -3.50
stall_1 = 19769.47 -3.50
stall_2 = 19758.95 -3.50
stall_3 = 19748.42 -3.50
stall_4 = 19737.89 -3.50
stall_5 = 19727.37 -3.50
stall_6 = 19716.84 -3.50
stall_7 = 19704.32 -3.50
stall_8 = 19695.79 -3.50
stall_9 = 19685.26 -3.50
stall_10 = 19674.74 -3.50
stall_11 = 19664.21 -3.50
stall_12 = 19653.68 -3.50
stall_13 = 19643.16 -3.50
stall_14 = 19632.63 -3.50
stall_15 = 19622.11 -3.50
stall_16 = 19611.58 -3.50
stall_17 = 19601.05 -3.50
stall_18 = 19590.53 -3.50
stall_19 = 19580.00 -3.50

[ starting_grid_0 ]
  ; old format 4x3 staggered grid
  ; polesitter on left
  ; new format 1x1 staggered grid for better online starts
  ; polesitter on right
  ; track length is <22770.05>
  ; grid front center at <22757.50,  2.30>
  ; width between boxes  4.00 - 5.50
  ; distance between cars 8.00 (up to 16 cars can see the flag)
stall_0 = 22756.30  0.30
stall_1 = 22748.30  5.80
stall_2 = 22740.30 -0.05
stall_3 = 22732.30  4.85
stall_4 = 22724.30 -0.80
stall_5 = 22716.30  3.90
stall_6 = 22708.30 -1.45
stall_7 = 22700.30  3.00
stall_8 = 22692.30 -1.60
stall_9 = 22684.30  2.10
stall_10 = 22676.30 -1.70
stall_11 = 22668.30  2.30
stall_12 = 22660.30 -1.70
stall_13 = 22652.30  2.30
stall_14 = 22644.30 -1.70
stall_15 = 22636.30  2.30
stall_16 = 22628.30 -1.70
stall_17 = 22620.30  2.30
stall_18 = 22612.30 -1.70
stall_19 = 22604.30  2.30

Marc Fraio

GPL: Nurburgring

by Marc Fraio » Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:32:01



Doesn't GPLEA have a weed whacker add-on for the front of the car, so you
can hack your way back out of those hedges?  Works great at Monza too,
if you overdo it exiting Lesmo 2.

        ;-)

        Marc


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