rec.autos.simulators

by **Craig Garnet** » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I'm having trouble getting my hands on these wheels to try out so
which would you recommend? I hear the Logitec pedals are a bit dodgy and the
Actlab
paddles don't sound too good.

Any advice greatly appreciated

Thanks
--
Craig

http://www.racesimcentral.net/~the.solicitors

Great Song Lyrics, No2
Cheap Lovers Make Expensive Wives.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

by **Ken Bear** » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00

I have the Logitech, one big reason I could actually see one at the local
Best Buy (never have seen an ACT Labs in person). I really, really like it,
and don't have a problem with the pedals. I'm starting to think a big thing
with the pedals is whether you wear shoes or not when sim-racing. I never
have, always bare feet or with socks, for extra control (and since my old CH
Pedals didn't quite fit my size 10 Reeboks <grin>) Without shoes, the
Logitech pedals seem fine to me - but when messing around for a few minutes
waiting to go somewhere yesterday with the shoes on they indeed felt like
they had no travel or tension. I think the way they're designed to go down
into the base makes going "shoeless" mandatory, too much weight on them for
the springs with shoes on, and not enough feel / travel with shoes on.

So if you already go shoeless, or wouldn't mind doing so, give the Logitech
a try. You can with some workarounds run CH Pedals or the like on the
gameport in conjunction with the wheel if you really hate the pedals, but I
think they get somewhat of a bad rap - I can control brake lockup better in
GPL with these than my previous TM NASCAR Pro pedals (good travel, lots of
tension) or Mad Catz Andretti pedals (huge amount of travel, little
tension) - and have the better lap times to prove it. :-)

--
Ken's Sig 3.0

"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" - Obi-Wan
Kenobi

Go #43 and #44!

volksy (at) geocities (dot) com
volksy (at) yahoo (dot) com

>I'm having trouble getting my hands on these wheels to try out so
>which would you recommend? I hear the Logitec pedals are a bit dodgy and
the
>Actlab
>paddles don't sound too good.

>Any advice greatly appreciated

>Thanks
>--
>Craig

>http://www.btinternet.com/~the.solicitors

>Great Song Lyrics, No2
>Cheap Lovers Make Expensive Wives.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

by **Galley_SimRace** » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00

The ActLabs paddles do blow chunks, but their pedals are excellent. The
Logitech has great paddles, and the pedals are OK with a "fix". I felt the
RS wheel was too thick and uncomfortable. The LWFF is molded beautifully.
You can add on the RS shifter in the future, and the RS can be used on an
N64, PSX, Dreamcast, etc, with extra cartridges.
go to http://www.force-1.com/ forum for more info.

--
Remove "spam jammer" to reply

Graffiti seen above a urinal in East Grand Forks, MN:
"Please don't eat the big white mints!"

My Yahoo! pager ID is Galley_SimRacer

> I'm having trouble getting my hands on these wheels to try out so
> which would you recommend? I hear the Logitec pedals are a bit dodgy and
the
> Actlab
> paddles don't sound too good.

> Any advice greatly appreciated

> Thanks
> --
> Craig

> http://www.btinternet.com/~the.solicitors

> Great Song Lyrics, No2
> Cheap Lovers Make Expensive Wives.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

by **don hodgdo** » Mon, 21 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Last week I removed the wiring harness from my LWFF pedals and used it to
rewire my CH pedals. I think I finally have the perfect Force Feedback
wheel. Lockup and wheelspin are much easier to control, and I'm now able to
trailbrake with some consistancy.

I tried the Logitech pedals for 7 months, but reached a point where I felt
they were holding me back, and now after a week, I'm glad I made the switch.
I know this works with TM pedals as well and if anyone wants help with the
conversion, let me know.

don

motor racing is life condensed around a moment...choose your moment

by **Vinto** » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00

><snipped stuff about driving and socks<g>>

>>So if you already go shoeless, or wouldn't mind doing so, give the
>>Logitech a try. You can with some workarounds run CH Pedals or the
>>like on the gameport in conjunction with the wheel if you really hate
>>the pedals, but I think they get somewhat of a bad rap - I can control
>>brake lockup better in GPL with these than my previous TM NASCAR Pro
>>pedals (good travel, lots of tension) or Mad Catz Andretti pedals
>>(huge amount of travel, little tension) - and have the better lap times
>>to prove it. :-)

>>--
>>Ken's Sig 3.0

>>"Who is the more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him?" -
>Obi-Wan
>>Kenobi

>Last week I removed the wiring harness from my LWFF pedals and used it
>to rewire my CH pedals. I think I finally have the perfect Force
>Feedback wheel. Lockup and wheelspin are much easier to control, and I'm
>now able to trailbrake with some consistancy.

>I tried the Logitech pedals for 7 months, but reached a point where I
>felt they were holding me back, and now after a week, I'm glad I made
>the switch. I know this works with TM pedals as well and if anyone wants
>help with the conversion, let me know.

>don

>motor racing is life condensed around a moment...choose your moment

I wired up my old T2 pedals to the LWFF, big difference! I'm racing like I
was before the LWFF. Can't wait for FF in GPL!

Vintook

by **Mountain Kodi** » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On Sun, 20 Jun 1999 15:29:55 -0400, "Galley_SimRacer"

>The ActLabs paddles do blow chunks, but their pedals are excellent. The
>Logitech has great paddles, and the pedals are OK with a "fix". I felt the
><snip>

What is this fix you're talking about? I just got myself a Logitech
Wingman FF wheel, and although I thought the pedals were satisfactory,
my barefoot feet get sore after a while... Is it a fix to reduce
tension, or what?

Thanks, --Mountain K

by **don hodgdo** » Tue, 22 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>What is this fix you're talking about? I just got myself a Logitech
>Wingman FF wheel, and although I thought the pedals were satisfactory,
>my barefoot feet get sore after a while... Is it a fix to reduce
>tension, or what?

>Thanks, --Mountain K

The easiest thing to do is to replace the pedal springs with stiffer ones.
The springs are simple coils and are easy to find in local hardware stores.
There are ten screws under the Logitech pedals, remove them and seperate the
two halves, noting the placement of the cables, pedals and springs. It's
actually a very simple design, you can't really mess it up. Take the springs
with you to the hardware store and look for something similar in diameter
and made of thicker wire but not so thick that the spring binds before the
pedal reaches full travel. Don't worry about the length, they can be cut to
size. I used a slightly thicker wire under the brake pedal for a more
natural feel.

don

by **Larr** » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00

And the Mac...

-Larry

> and the RS can be used on an
> N64, PSX, Dreamcast, etc, with extra cartridges.

rec.autos.simulators

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF

Actlabs Force RS or Logitec Wingman FF