pez
>pez
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> >pez
> I'm sure the talented people will surface somewhere else. At least they
still
> have the knowledge they gained at Papy...
> Eldred
> > >pez
> > I'm sure the talented people will surface somewhere else. At least they
> still
> > have the knowledge they gained at Papy...
> > Eldred
> True.
> To not continue on with the world's best physics engine for the PC would
be
> waste of knowledge and talent.
> Does anyone really know why Papy closed the doors?
> Usually its because of money, but I thought their products sold well.
> Or did someone just get plain tired?
Most likely Sierra/Vivendi owns the software. I would be really really
suprised if Former Papyrus employees would be allowed to take the code and
use it for some other product. Just like the West brothers had to abandon
WSC when their puplisher pulled the plug...Papy will have to say goodbye to
the code developed while under the employ of Sierra.
dave henrie
I guess we can finally kiss goodbye even the faintest glimmering of a
tiny, weeny, nano-hope-ette for GPL2 at some point in the faaaar distant
future then? :-)
<ponders>
It was a magazine (PCZone in the UK) that had a review of the flight sim
Tornado by D.I. and a driving sim called Indy Car Racing by some bunch
called Papyrus (who I'd also never heard of) that persuaded me to buy a
PC. Those screen shots were amazing for the time. Well, 18,000ukp of
hardware, software & magazines later (thanks a bunch Quicken ;-), I'm not
sure whether to thank them or not. But on a purely emotional level I think
it's been worth all that and more just for the pleasure GPL alone brought
me... and continues to bring!
In the unlikely even any ex-Papy people ever stumble across this while
Googling away their final years in the Twilight Rest Home for Terminally
Bewildered Programmers, thanks for everything.
Andrew McP
Who'll be my role-model?
Now that my role-model is...
Gone.
Oh, hang on... the West brothers! Maybe :-)
VUG decided to close both of it's remaining eastcoast studios (Papyrus and
Impressions). I had thought they were to have issued some type of press
release regarding the closings, but until that time you'll have to ask them
for their "offical" reason(s).
pez
> pez
So...can we call you Al?
:-)
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Argh.
In the last 5 years 3 of my favorite developers (Papyrus, Dynamix, and
Looking Glass) have all gone under.
I hope to hell GTR has good multi.
Jason
Well I heard that Dave Kaemmer hasn't retired yet and had left Papy a
while ago but was still consulting. I think that he had some sort of
non compete clause but now with Papy gone what would he compete
against? Maybe GPL2 will come back.
Mike
>VUG decided to close both of it's remaining eastcoast studios (Papyrus and
>Impressions). I had thought they were to have issued some type of press
>release regarding the closings, but until that time you'll have to ask them
>for their "offical" reason(s).
>pez
>> pez
> pez
Some among us have been working on their own sims. I
have to admit I've never tried one.
I'm going to start cutting my first 3D code, for a
non-sim project I'm working on, in a couple of weeks. I'm
a Unix programmer, this is my second Windows project.
Does anyone doubt we have the talent right here to get
a proper client server architecture, hot graphics, physics
tuned to put a smile on your face, multi-threaded optional
(for multi processors) sim? Multi platform, Windows and
Unix perhaps.
Think about it.
I would never want to violate Sony's F1 license.
Open source and development tools. We have folks who
can do wonderful track and vehicle modeling.
Anybody interested?
What's the state of the home grown sims currently
available? I suspect their developers can offer a solid
foundation, and would love to see some interest from the
rest of us.
Larry
Track development, car graphics, sounds could all be done by RAS volunteers,
we just need the graphics & physics engines plus the net code.
Mind you I have no idea what kind of salary we are talking about nor how
many of us would pay. Which is a slight flaw in my cunning plan...
Cheers
Tony