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If anyone does, it's you Frenchie.
David G Fisher
> Yep, DGF please don't do that.
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POST PROOF OR RETRACT now.
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No doubts. None. 0. Nada. Zilch.
I just don't remember his name. Not being a card carrying member of the Papy
fan club, I haven't memorized all the names, their autobiographies, and what
they like for dessert.
I'm not retracting anything. Somebody here remembers. Whether or not they
come forward and why, is another matter.
I still think you remember, although maybe I give you too much cranial
credit.
David G Fisher
> Nope, I clearly remember. You are now in the defensive position, having
> said something completely untrue.
> POST PROOF OR RETRACT now.
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| > I think you know what and maybe even who I am referring to at Papy, and
| you
| > just don't want to spill the beans. Actually, I'm SURE you know.
|
| Nope, I clearly remember. You are now in the defensive position, having
| said something completely untrue.
|
| POST PROOF OR RETRACT now.
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| I am 100% positive as to what I remember. The guy surprised a number of
| people here with his comments.
|
| No doubts. None. 0. Nada. Zilch.
|
| I just don't remember his name. Not being a card carrying member of the
Papy
| fan club, I haven't memorized all the names, their autobiographies, and
what
| they like for dessert.
|
| I'm not retracting anything. Somebody here remembers. Whether or not they
| come forward and why, is another matter.
|
| I still think you remember, although maybe I give you too much cranial
| credit.
|
| David G Fisher
|
| > > I think you know what and maybe even who I am referring to at Papy,
and
| > you
| > > just don't want to spill the beans. Actually, I'm SURE you know.
| >
| >
| > Nope, I clearly remember. You are now in the defensive position, having
| > said something completely untrue.
| >
| >
| >
| > POST PROOF OR RETRACT now.
| >
| >
| >
| >
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| >
| >
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DGF
> | I am 100% positive as to what I remember. The guy surprised a number of
> | people here with his comments.
> |
> | No doubts. None. 0. Nada. Zilch.
> |
> | I just don't remember his name. Not being a card carrying member of the
> Papy
> | fan club, I haven't memorized all the names, their autobiographies, and
> what
> | they like for dessert.
> |
> | I'm not retracting anything. Somebody here remembers. Whether or not
they
> | come forward and why, is another matter.
> |
> | I still think you remember, although maybe I give you too much cranial
> | credit.
> |
> | David G Fisher
> |
> | > > I think you know what and maybe even who I am referring to at Papy,
> and
> | > you
> | > > just don't want to spill the beans. Actually, I'm SURE you know.
> | >
> | >
> | > Nope, I clearly remember. You are now in the defensive position,
having
> | > said something completely untrue.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | > POST PROOF OR RETRACT now.
> | >
> | >
> | >
> | >
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Well, that's 300 million very bored viewers, in that case!
| What is it that I'm refusing to post? I didn't save his quotes from two
| years ago.
|
| DGF
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> Others will have to chime in on this.
> David G Fisher
> > Who is rewriting history David? We're both going by memories here. You
> > saying yours is factual and mine is not?
> > I followed the development of GPL very closely, and have followed all of
> > Papy's work very closely as well, for several years. And I simply do not
> > recall ever seeing them state the things you are saying they did.
> > Don Burnette
> > > Again, they (at least one of the Papy crew) said in a post at another
> > forum
> > > that ff was junk, crap, worthless..........whatever adjective you want
> to
> > > use. Papy supporters said "yea, it isn't, Papy says so!" Then a little
> > while
> > > later (month or two), the ff patch was released.
> > > Don't re-write history.
> > > FF technology did not go from not being worth the time to implement
it,
> to
> > > being essential within a year. They simply didn'thave the time to get
it
> > in
> > > before the release, just like Ubi didn't have time to polish their ff.
> > > David G Fisher
> > > > Papy never said FF was crap, they said they would not implement it
> UNTIL
> > > it
> > > > could be done right, and at that time they had not seen it done
quite
> > > right.
> > > > So they did,
> > > > Don Burnette
> > > > > "crap"?? is this a quote? I have never heard Randy Cassidy ever
talk
> > > like
> > > > > this!
> > > > > TrollOmeter time!! :o)~
> > > > > | Other racing games/sims had ff before GPL was released. I seem
to
> > > > remember
> > > > > | Papy saying ff was ***right up until the patch was released.
> Very
> > > > > | strange.
> > > > > | David G Fisher
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| Like I said, post proof or retract.
| > I am 100% positive as to what I remember. The guy surprised a number of
| > people here with his comments.
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I don't remember exactly what Papy was saying, but I do remember resigning
myself to not seeing FF in GPL and being extraordinarily surprised when it
did happen. I do remember a post by someone who (I assume) was a Papy
employee that was something to the effect (paraphrased) that "FF is
something that was looked at, but we felt like the technology isn't here
yet, so we didn't consider it any more".
Well, obviously somebody did continue to consider it officially or no, and
IMO it stands (still) as just about the best example of FF in a driving sim
ever--IMO, of course.
Jerry Morelock
Andre
Thanks,
Jan.
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