rec.autos.simulators

>>> Is it really that hard to understand? It's three years later, ofcourse
>> these things are much better in F1RC! Nobody will disagree on that.
>> But back to the point: Why does a 3-year old game have much better ff
>> and multiplayer?? The ff -addon- (not patch) being released a couple
>> of months after GPL's release is totally irrelevant.

>> Andre

> > As for FF, all I can say is that it's either buggy (some people say it's
> > great), or after working on ALL THOSE OTHER features I listed, they
didn't
> > have time to polish the FF. GPL was a bare bones sim in comparison. All
> > those other features matter more to me than FF, so I can easily forgive
> > that.

> Or perhaps the sophistication of GPL's physics model actually made it
possible
> to implement meaningful feedback.

> Dave Ewing

> --
> *****************************************************
> David A. Ewing

> *****************************************************

> > Did you limit the number of characters in your driver name to less than
> 12?

> > David G Fisher

> Yeah, David, I've done that and every thing else that I can think of that
> I've ever tried to get anything running.  Regarding the driver name, I
> deleted the "Save" folder, started the game, and even deleted the default
> "Player" driver name, adding  a single letter name in its place.

> The last time I absolutely couldn't get the meat of a program to run was
> back in the '80s when there was about a half-dozen different CD drive
> standards around, and I had a CD that wouldn't behave.

> As I've said before, the GUI works fine, but immediately after the track
> loading progress bar fills I get either dumped to the desktop or a system
> freeze, which suggests some type of mode switching problem.

> There's absolutely nothing strange about this system--P3/800, 256mb,
Geforce
> 3, Windows ME, SBLive.  Well, I am running a beta build of DirectX 8.1,
but
> I got the same behavior out of F1RC with the DX8 release version.
Nothing's
> OC'd, either.

> Here's the latest crash.log from the game.  Maybe someone who knows such
can
> decipher and give me a clue.  It's for sure Ubisoft tech support
can't--but
> they do know how to reply with a two-year-old form letter.  Any help will
be
> appreciated--after all, I *would* like to have the chance to be able to
> *** about the same stuff everyone else is ***ing about.  :-)

> CrashLogVersion 2
> Date 01/06/15 18:23:13
> Module:  F1RC.EXE
> Version: R.1.00.004
> Infos:   English -

> Exception "Acces Violation" (address FFFFFFFF is unreadable) at :
> 0046A200

> EAX 00000000
> EBX 00000014
> ECX 00000000
> EDX 0072F6F8
> ESI 044A6B6C
> EDI 044A6C30
> EIP 0046A200
> FLG 00010256
> EBP 0260E564
> ESP 0072F6D4

> Code from 0046A200 to 0046A220 :
> 8B 09 8B 54 24 04 8B 01 FF 50 18 C2 04 00 90 90
> 8B 09 8B 54 24 04 8B 01 FF 50 28 C2 04 00 90 90

> Stack from 0072F6D4 to 0072FAD4 :
> 00440062 0072F6F8 043D008C 0259928C
> 00000004 0072F7D0 00000000 00000014
> 0260E564 80000000 80000000 80000000
> 00001388 80000000 80000000 004BE9B2
> 00438EC8 044A6C4C 00000008 00001388
> 0072F804 02598E84 06B31748 028B5F88
> 044A4B10 00000001 0041A278 043D008C
> 028B5F88 0072F7D0 02566330 00000000
> 025BBD60 0256630C 02A3EAE4 02A1284C
> 06B31748 043D008C 00409CC0 0072F7C0
> 028B5F88 0072F804 00000001 0072F984
> 0256644F 025BBFEC 025BBD60 00000004
> 00000007 010055A3 025BBD60 02584990
> 00000000 0256630C 0256634C 0260C2B8
> 02569E90 00000001 02566330 00000000
> 0256A454 3DB851EB 3DB851EB 00005D01

> You do know that a sim can have a perfect, complex physics model, and
still
> have poor ff?

> The physics model in F1RC is superb btw, but I'm guessing you don't even
own
> the sim. If you haven't bought F1RC and experienced Eau Rouge, and the
> thrill of slashing through Pouhon and Stavelot just perfectly (especially
> the exits as the rear wheels fight for grip as you accelerate and push the
> Ferrari to it's limit), then you are missing out on something very
special.

> David G Fisher

> > > As for FF, all I can say is that it's either buggy (some people say
it's
> > > great), or after working on ALL THOSE OTHER features I listed, they
> didn't
> > > have time to polish the FF. GPL was a bare bones sim in comparison.
All
> > > those other features matter more to me than FF, so I can easily
forgive
> > > that.

> > Or perhaps the sophistication of GPL's physics model actually made it
> possible
> > to implement meaningful feedback.

> > Dave Ewing

> > --
> > *****************************************************
> > David A. Ewing

> > *****************************************************

> Don Burnette

> racers against anti-papy pigs

> > So why did it take a year after the release of GPL for the ff patch to
> > emerge?

> > You do know that a sim can have a perfect, complex physics model, and
> still
> > have poor ff?

> > The physics model in F1RC is superb btw, but I'm guessing you don't even
> own
> > the sim. If you haven't bought F1RC and experienced Eau Rouge, and the
> > thrill of slashing through Pouhon and Stavelot just perfectly
(especially
> > the exits as the rear wheels fight for grip as you accelerate and push
the
> > Ferrari to it's limit), then you are missing out on something very
> special.

> > David G Fisher

> > > > As for FF, all I can say is that it's either buggy (some people say
> it's
> > > > great), or after working on ALL THOSE OTHER features I listed, they
> > didn't
> > > > have time to polish the FF. GPL was a bare bones sim in comparison.
> All
> > > > those other features matter more to me than FF, so I can easily
> forgive
> > > > that.

> > > Or perhaps the sophistication of GPL's physics model actually made it
> > possible
> > > to implement meaningful feedback.

> > > Dave Ewing

> > > --
> > > *****************************************************
> > > David A. Ewing

> > > *****************************************************

> | So why did it take a year after the release of GPL for the ff patch to
> | emerge?

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> > Oh yea, I know what that error log means. :-P

> > Have you posted your problem at the High Gear forums? You're more likely
> to
> > get help there. Also, did you call Ubi technical support (9am to 9pm
EST,
> > Monday through Friday -- Call (919) 460-9778).

> > Have you changed the .exe to the one which improves the AI? I could zip
up
> > mine and e-mail it to you. Worth a try.

> > David G Fisher

> Haven't tried the forums, but thanks for the suggestion.  Haven't called
> their tech support, either--Do you have direct knowledge of their worth?
I
> pretty much quit calling for any tech support years ago; seems most of the
> time I knew more about troubleshooting than whoever I was talking to, and
> the only thing I ever got was PO'd.  :-)  Besides, ever since I was able
to
> get iF-22 into a semblance of working order ("semblance" is the only thing
> that sim was capable of, I think), I've figured I could handle just about
> anything.  Until now, that is.

> Sure, why not try the AI hack--it for sure won't make F1RC run any worse
on
> my machine than it already is, LOL.  THX.

> Jerry Morelock

> Anti-Papy Pig

> > Hey, will be interesting to see if Ubi is supporting F1RC a year or two
> > after it's out no?

> > Don Burnette

> > racers against anti-papy pigs