rec.autos.simulators

by **mark jeangerar** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:14:00

I just finished 47 laps at Zandy, I had intended to go 90 but... the
Internet, you know? Anyway, in that 47 laps I made no less than 400
mistakes. The reason behind every last mistake I made was the inability to
tell how much brake pressure I had, how far I was from the apex, and how
much steering angle I was using. I can't tell you how much fun that was. I
was going to list every game I've played that allows that sort of silly
information to be transmitted to the driver when I realized it would take
much less time to simply list the games which don't offer such trivial
feedback as sense of speed, acceleration, and position:

GPL Nx ICR

I can hardly wait for the next papy game. Hopefully it will be something
I've always wanted, maybe CanAm or the 1990 F1 season or WSC or ALM. That
would be really cool. It would suck if one of the premier series was
represented by one of those awful realistic and accurate games. You know,
the kind that relay all the pertinent information to the driver... because,
I really don't make that many mistakes....

What would I do with all that extra time on the track?
--

"Racing! - Science for the action minded."

mark

by **Jim Seamu** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:38:22

/me settles back on the sofa with his big bag of popcorn to watch the
entertainment unfold

:0)

by **Jens H. Kruus** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:57:13

/me would hate to disappoint Jim and brings him a large Pepsi. :^)

Interesting - I usually play games ("Yes ***ia, GPL is a game.") that
I enjoy. Thus I have no stories to tell about FPS lan parties or RTS
online. Each to his own, I guess. ;^)

/Jens

by **Joachim Trens** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 04:08:41

Hey, have you heard about this new species of butterflies they've just
discovered in Krasnijigorsk? :-)

> > /me settles back on the sofa with his big bag of popcorn to watch the
> > entertainment unfold

> /me would hate to disappoint Jim and brings him a large Pepsi. :^)

> Interesting - I usually play games ("Yes ***ia, GPL is a game.") that
> I enjoy. Thus I have no stories to tell about FPS lan parties or RTS
> online. Each to his own, I guess. ;^)

> /Jens

by **Jesse Blac** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 02:37:42

Trolling much? If you want to criticize the game, just come out and do it.
And give us some evidence of why/how it does not do something correctly, and
then show us how it SHOULD be done. Don't just *** and moan like a kid.

Jesse

by **Jens H. Kruus** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 03:38:39

Old news, Joakim. I read all about it on
http://osipov.org/insects/introd.htm last month. ;-)

But did you see the recent additions on
http://butterflywebsite.com/index.htm ? They have a lovely new image of
the Semiothisa gnophosaria in larva state!
http://www.barbosalab.umd.edu/geometridae/022.html Life is good. :-)

/Jens

by **Brian Bowle** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 06:08:49

Mark maybe you should try a game that is not so hard for you. There are
thousands of us that do not have a problem. Maybe you do not have the
dexterity for it. Try need for speed. It is much easier.

by **jason moy** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 07:31:23

> Trolling much? If you want to criticize the game, just come out and do it.
> And give us some evidence of why/how it does not do something correctly, and
> then show us how it SHOULD be done. Don't just *** and moan like a kid.

> Jesse

I kinda wonder if that post is serious, considering that he posted
something a week ago advertising his GPL F2 league...

Jason

by **Jan Verschuere** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:00:20

Mark is serious and sincere... the slightly moving viewpoint in GPL throws
his perception in some way. On the other hand he loves GPL to bits because
it lets him race other human players. He just feels hampered because it
doesn't give him as accurate a feedback as, for example, GP3 2K. Which is
not to say he's not a devastatingly quick and consistent GPL racer, just it
doesn't allow him to be as effortlessly accurate as in some other sims.

I'm in the reverse position... I lack info to save situations in GP3 2K when
compared to GPL. But perhaps my driving is not accurate enough to begin with
and GPL is just more forgiving to being "thereabouts".

Jan.
=---
"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

by **Andre Warring** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 08:45:04

On Mon, 10 Dec 2001 10:14:00 -0700, "mark jeangerard"

>I just finished 47 laps at Zandy, I had intended to go 90 but... the

Whazaaaaap mark.. in a trolling mood or just being a little
frustrated?
Not a single sim is giving you so much feedback as GPL or N4.. you
know that. So chill a bit first, and come back when you're able to
seriously discus your problems..

Andre

by **Alan Bernard** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 09:04:11

I wouldn't have said all that. If you don't like GPL you'll be branded as a
troll. It's best to say you like GPL rather than that you don't. It's a
decent game, I'll admit. But if anyone claims that GPL is not the best of
the best, then you're a no-good piece of driftwood, forever at sea, without
a home, a family, a soul.

It's a barren place to be. So if you want to be somebody, be secure at
port, have a home and a family and a soul, say you like GPL, that it's the
best of the best.

Alanb

by **ymenar** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:37:55

> I just finished 47 laps at Zandy, I had intended to go 90 but... the
> Internet, you know? Anyway, in that 47 laps I made no less than 400
> mistakes.

Wait a second... Zandy has 12 corners. 400 mistakes in 47 laps, that's 8.5
spins per lap, or a spin each ~1.4 corner.

Two things here. Mark either you finally realised that you really SUCK a
racing a car with a high degree of tyre slip or you're using by mistake
those wet_setups for GPL. ;-D

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by **ymenar** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:40:22

> I wouldn't have said all that. If you don't like GPL you'll be branded as
a
> troll.

Bwahahaha Mark and Alan learning from the DGF school of rhetorics. There's
a difference between trolling people by stating that "GPL su><0r!" and
stating that while you can see the advanced physics, the sim is just not
made for you. It's the same as real-life racing, some drivers can't ride a
Rally car worth their life, while they will excel at bike riding or other
type of motorsports.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.ymenard.com/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

by **Eldre** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:32:54

>I wouldn't have said all that. If you don't like GPL you'll be branded as a
>troll. It's best to say you like GPL rather than that you don't. It's a
>decent game, I'll admit. But if anyone claims that GPL is not the best of
>the best, then you're a no-good piece of driftwood, forever at sea, without
>a home, a family, a soul.

>It's a barren place to be. So if you want to be somebody, be secure at
>port, have a home and a family and a soul, say you like GPL, that it's the
>best of the best.

Are you serious? If he doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. I don't have a
problem with that. I don't think anyone else would, either. Heck, he probably
likes a game that *I* don't like. People have different tastes, simple.

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:32:54

>I just finished 47 laps at Zandy, I had intended to go 90 but... the
>Internet, you know? Anyway, in that 47 laps I made no less than 400
>mistakes. The reason behind every last mistake I made was the inability to
>tell how much brake pressure I had, how far I was from the apex, and how
>much steering angle I was using. I can't tell you how much fun that was. I
>was going to list every game I've played that allows that sort of silly
>information to be transmitted to the driver when I realized it would take
>much less time to simply list the games which don't offer such trivial
>feedback as sense of speed, acceleration, and position:

Do you think that SCGT or F1 2001 do better? If so, how? If not, name 2 that
do - maybe I'm missing something. I don't see how you can get more info
without feeling the G-forces, or having a wider viewpoint, or something like
that. How do you see it in the other games?

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
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