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Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

Mark Jeangerar

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Mark Jeangerar » Thu, 03 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I don't know if it's something I read here but,

The next really cool generation in sims will be when the telemetry from the real races is uploaded to the net and you can drop in to the real races in your simulation. See? While the real GP is being run, your computer is putting the real cars positions on your machine. Then you go against them as best you can. It would be so fun to follow Damon for a few laps.  

21st on the grid, Me! Racing against Mika Salo and the like.

--
Mark Jeangerard
www.soundchaserweb.com
New Mexico USA

George M. Smile

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by George M. Smile » Thu, 03 Feb 2000 04:00:00


> I don't know if it's something I read here but,

Check out:

http://netracelive.com

Sounds pretty lame to me.  It isn't really interactive now is
it?  The real drivers aren't aware of me and therefore would
not react to me so 'following' is about all I could do.  Although
I'm sure quite a few r.a.s readers would argue that current F1
drivers race oblivious to there competitors (now, now, that
was just a joke)  it isn't really racing unless I can show a
driver a wheel for a few laps applying increasing pressure
until I finally dive down the inside of the driver and take his
line and position away.

I do think the idea of allowing one to replace the telecast
producer by recreating the event from live telemetry
streams has great merit, but I'm afraid the idea of
wrapping it up inside a game is lost on me.

Holding out for NetCastLive,

 - George

ymenar

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by ymenar » Thu, 03 Feb 2000 04:00:00


There is no realistic way to do so, I agree.  It's money thrown for nothing
I say.  The best thing would simply to have uploads of the F1 qual grid and
from that point just start with the AI positioned at the correct spots from
the real-race.

There is just no way... unless they are ghosts or somebody creates a way to
blend Artificial Intelligence with real-life racing positions.  I say the
last one is 100% impossible, and that goes back to the chaos theories.  Too
much things can happen at any moment for such a thing.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Harjan Bran

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Harjan Bran » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

It will happen but it will not be totally cool, since the real drivers will probably not be blocking me, and I won't be able to block them. So that means they would probably have to be invisible. And when a front runner is behind a back marker you'll be able to drive just straight through them and take the lead for example.

  I don't know if it's something I read here but,

  The next really cool generation in sims will be when the telemetry from the real races is uploaded to the net and you can drop in to the real races in your simulation. See? While the real GP is being run, your computer is putting the real cars positions on your machine. Then you go against them as best you can. It would be so fun to follow Damon for a few laps.  

  21st on the grid, Me! Racing against Mika Salo and the like.

  --
  Mark Jeangerard
  www.soundchaserweb.com
  New Mexico USA

Coco

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Coco » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Check this site:

http://206.204.218.41/

It's call Netrace Live.

Bye Coco


> I don't know if it's something I read here but, The next really cool
> generation in sims will be when the telemetry from the real races is
> uploaded to the net and you can drop in to the real races in your
> simulation. See? While the real GP is being run, your computer is
> putting the real cars positions on your machine. Then you go against
> them as best you can. It would be so fun to follow Damon for a few
> laps. 21st on the grid, Me! Racing against Mika Salo and the like.
> --
> Mark Jeangerard
> www.soundchaserweb.com
> New Mexico USA

Kenneth Verbur

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Kenneth Verbur » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

We also have a an interview with the NetRaceLive people. You can find it at
http://www.simracingnews.com.

--
Kenneth Verburg
Editor-in-Chief, High Gear
http://www.simracingnews.com

Mark Jeangerar

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Mark Jeangerar » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Lemme guess... those cry baby F1 drivers don't want HUD's on their visors?

(It is a pretty lame idea. Still, The Shoe live on my machine would be a
thrill.)

--
Mark Jeangerard
www.soundchaserweb.com
New Mexico USA



Mark Jeangerar

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Mark Jeangerar » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Yeah... never really followed his F1 career. Not a bad interviewer though.
So, in that case, it would be fun to follow Berger or Zanardi...

--
Mark Jeangerard
www.soundchaserweb.com
New Mexico USA



> > I don't know if it's something I read here but, The next really cool
> > generation in sims will be when the telemetry from the real races is
> > uploaded to the net and you can drop in to the real races in your
> > simulation. See? While the real GP is being run, your computer is
> > putting the real cars positions on your machine. Then you go against
> > them as best you can. It would be so fun to follow Damon for a few
> > laps. 21st on the grid, Me! Racing against Mika Salo and the like.

> Errr... Damon retired at the end of last year (actually in the middle of
> the race at Suzuka).

> --
> *****************************************************
> David A. Ewing

> *****************************************************

Mark Jeangerar

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Mark Jeangerar » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00

That's pretty funny. Nowhere on the site could I find which software will be used. I'm assuming theirs. And the computer pictures of the cars on that site are F1 cars. Cause dumb Americans can't tell the difference! Hahahahahaha!

--
Mark Jeangerard
www.soundchaserweb.com
New Mexico USA


  Check this site:
  http://206.204.218.41/

  It's call Netrace Live.

  Bye Coco


    I don't know if it's something I read here but, The next really cool generation in sims will be when the telemetry from the real races is uploaded to the net and you can drop in to the real races in your simulation. See? While the real GP is being run, your computer is putting the real cars positions on your machine. Then you go against them as best you can. It would be so fun to follow Damon for a few laps. 21st on the grid, Me! Racing against Mika Salo and the like.  
    --
    Mark Jeangerard
    www.soundchaserweb.com
    New Mexico USA

Peter Ive

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Peter Ive » Fri, 04 Feb 2000 04:00:00




>> I do think the idea of allowing one to replace the telecast
>> producer by recreating the event from live telemetry
>> streams has great merit, but I'm afraid the idea of
>> wrapping it up inside a game is lost on me.

>There is no realistic way to do so, I agree.  It's money thrown for nothing
>I say.  The best thing would simply to have uploads of the F1 qual grid and
>from that point just start with the AI positioned at the correct spots from
>the real-race.

>There is just no way... unless they are ghosts or somebody creates a way to
>blend Artificial Intelligence with real-life racing positions.  I say the
>last one is 100% impossible, and that goes back to the chaos theories.  Too
>much things can happen at any moment for such a thing.

Yes, if it is hardcoded so that there is no room for variation, then
it's going to be a waste of time.  If, however, they allowed for the AI
cars to be as near to their real-life positions, but making allowances
for interaction with the human opponent, then it might just work.  In
other words, if one of the AI cars was put slightly back because it had
to slow because the player driver was in the way, then the game could
gradually allow that deficiency to be gradually clawed back once the AI
driver was no longer being held up.

Obviously there are other possible problems that would need to be
addressed, such as accidents caused by player driver, whether AI drivers
are allowed to change their line depending upon player driver's
position, but at least it would be a start.
--
Peter Ives - (AKA Ivington)

No person's opinions can be said to be
more correct than another's, because each is
the sole judge of his or her own experience.

Timothy Mora

Racing Against Real F1 Drivers

by Timothy Mora » Thu, 16 Mar 2000 04:00:00

> Errr... Damon retired at the end of last year (actually in the middle of
> the race at Suzuka).

> --
> *****************************************************
> David A. Ewing

> *****************************************************

Which caused me to lose any respect left for him!

THM


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