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>Mighty
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The suspense is terrible. I hope it will last.
: Unless geography has changed somewhat, or god forbid they begin teaching it
: to you know nothing North Americans, Le Mans is not in, nor is anywhere near
: Switerland.
Near is all a matter of perspective. I can drive from Switzerland to
Calais in under ten hours. Ten hours of driving is considered "going out
to the corner store" in some parts of Canada :)
Stephen
> >Three people died, a tradgedy. But it was a freak occurance, can anyone
> tell
> >me the last time (apart from Michigan) that this happened?
> >YEARS ago i suspect?? It happens, we all know it does, but I for one would
> >rather see the track.
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> >I do too, but I'm sure that SOMETHING is going to have to be done.
> F1 has a new regulation requiring that wheels and suspension
> components be secured by a strong strap to the chassis. That was
> mentioned in a story about the tragedy on ESPN, but unnamed IRL
> officials said that it could "create more problems than it solves." I
> disagree. The first priority is to do everything possible to protect
> spectators. Drivers know that they are putting their lives on the
> line to race, but spectators should not.
Dave,
No one was hurt in the Phoenix incident. The wheel bounced harmlessly into/near
an empty banquet tent.
Jim
The standard way to deal with this is to wrap the underlying
structural carbon fibers with an unstressed carbon or kevlar "sock",
so that you get a "green-stick" fracture, with both pieces remaining
connected. The woven appearance of most unpainted carbon fiber you
see these days is just the protective "sock".
CART is also using a internal tether now to keep the suspension arms
intact. Call it the "Senna" rule, if you like. Its intent is to keep
the suspension arms from hitting the driver, as happened in his fatal
accident at Imola. It won't keep the wheels on the car, though it
might well reduce detachments under lighter impacts. Fractures at the
hub will still send the wheel assembly flying.
Cheers,
Steve B.
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Your incredible tact, diplomacy and courtesy when providing information are in
themselves indicators of the obvious superiority of a non-North American intellect.
You win, I'm done, see ya.
Zog (apparently aka "Buttmonkey")
> >Ever consider that might be the race he was referring to? "Years ago", you
> > catch that part?
> >Good thing you told him off though.
> > Zog
> Buttmonkey-
> Unless geography has changed somewhat, or god forbid they begin teaching it
> to you know nothing North Americans, Le Mans is not in, nor is anywhere near
> Switerland.
> They might speak french in some parts of Switzerland, but it is not france.
> Also. please note, that Le Mans full circuit has not held a GP. Yes- the
> Bugatti circuit has, but who's mentioning that .
> Z.
>Your incredible tact, diplomacy and courtesy when providing information are in
>themselves indicators of the obvious superiority of a non-North American
> intellect.
>You win, I'm done, see ya.
> Zog (apparently aka "Buttmonkey")
you'll have to forgive me if all this off topic stuff bores me and i react as
such. If i wanted to read about hick racking, i'd be subsribed to an IRL ng.
Z.
Um.... so why did you reply so many times?
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Don't know, I just remembered reading about it, but some people take offense
when you say something that isn't spelt right, punctuated properly, and
doesn't have the right amount of insults in, ask 'Zonkie', he's a master at
being a***.
Freak accidents occur, that's the way it is! People live, people die, be it
for wrong or right, C***te is a 'safe' track, IRL is 'safe', the
spectators are 'safe', but when a wheel is vaulted up like that, spectators
aren't 'safe', it either happens or it doesn't, nothing needs to be altered
to tracks or cars in my opinion, it was a freak accident.
IRL races on some of the most dangerous tracks in existense for
open-wheelers, but not for the spectators, for the drivers, no matter what
racetrack you are at, watching these modern day hero's, you are in danger.
1997 Daytona, a man was hit by the hood of Irvan's car, no-one killed, but
it is as much of a serious incident as C***te's tradgedy. Mark Blundell's
brake's failed in 1996 at Rio, he slammed the wall, had that happened on a
roadcourse or street circuit, god knows what the result would of been, but
he wasn't on a roadcourse, he was on an oval, with it's 'safe' confining
walls, which ARE THERE to protect the public, catch fencing IS THERE to
protect the public, if it was any taller, it would remove it's structural
integrity, therefore producing a whole new problem if a whole car could hit
it, if it did, it would go through, you HAVE to admit, as things are now,
spectating IS safe, i hear of a lot more plane crash deaths than I do motor
racing incident. (driver or spectator).
Tim
My sympathy to all involved and their families.
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http://www.racesimcentral.net/~nascar
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>> Chris
>Don't know, I just remembered reading about it, but some people take offense
>when you say something that isn't spelt right, punctuated properly, and
>doesn't have the right amount of insults in, ask 'Zonkie', he's a master at
>being a***.
Z.
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let me assume this is directed at myself- perhaps you should learn how to
quote and follow up posts.
More importantly, i think you should learn that facts are quite important when
making some kind of reasoned argument.
All too often people sprout about something they might have read somewhere-
once (upon a time) without actually talking about anything that really
occured. Since for some reason the existance of this race being "covered" up
(que X-files theme) then it was really, the whole point of your post.
i think all of us here have a reasonable expectation that any such comment is
made with the real knowledge that what you say has some basis in fact.
The suggestion by another reader that it may have been one of the spanish
races in past is interesting- i will check my flatmates book before.
The acceptance of "popular myths or urban legends" as truths simply becase we
read them somewhere and they remain unchallanged, is a dangerous form of
changing history - witness the new Hollywood film project which will bring up
a generation of people thinking that Americans cracked the Enigma code in the
US (rather than the British in Buckinghamshire).
I find the whole process of accepting heresy as fact rather disturbing- say it
enough times and maybe it will "become" true.
In anycase, i'll take your flippant replies as defensive against your own
knowledge shortcomings.
Perhaps it would be time to refresh your memory before postly rashly in future
about things it is apparent you know nothing about.
Oh, and btw- go *** yourself, idiot.
Z.
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