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NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

Brian P. Sweeney, Es

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Brian P. Sweeney, Es » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I bought this last night, on the strength of a 100% rebate, and I'm not
terribly impressed. My main problem is that the controls are so poor that
they make the car undriveable.

I have Nascar1, Nascar2, Indycar1, Indycar2, and a ton of other driving
games/sims which all recognize my wheel and work perfectly with it. Nascar
1999, however, would only partially work with my wheel, so I threw my old
joystick back on, and I got the same problem. The car wants to turn hard
left and smack the infield fence. If I really try, I get get a few hot
laps in, but it is a tremendous amount of work, and the slightest twitch
will send the car hard left. Definitely not the enjoyment one seeks in
buying a program such as this.

Ove 20 attempts at calibrating the wheel/joystick have been fruitless. The
situation simply cannot be corrected. The game simply has too many bugs in
it to be recommended.

For half the price, buy the Nascar 2 edition with the Busch expansion pack
in it. Nascar 2 is terrific, and it doesn't have the bugs of the new
release. Further, I didn't see a significant graphics improvement in
NASCAR 1999 over Nascar 2.

The latest, greatest, thing isn't always that.

D/A Fische

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by D/A Fische » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Have to almost agree with you.  From what I understand is that all of the
tracks from N2 do not appear in 99.  I've already made the decision to stay
with the 50th edition and wait for the NASCAR 2000 to come out.


Ron Higg

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Ron Higg » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Thats strange, I haven't had any problem with N1999. I have used N1, N2
and the expansion pack. In N1999 it is generally tougher to race the AI
at the same 'opps' setting as N2 but have had no problems with the wheel
calibration or steering that you describe.

Ron


Robert F. Souc

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Robert F. Souc » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I have to agree with Ron.  The games act no differently to my wheel than N2
did and only pocono is missing which you can import and then run a patch
from the Pits to fix it.
Don Burnett

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Don Burnett » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Same here Ron, N99 has worked great for me. No problems installing,
calibrating, or getting the sim to run. I think it is well worth it for the
extra tracks, the tracks, the modified tracks from N2, and the improved AI.
No, I'm not going to say it is perfect, but it is a blast to run for me.

--
Don Burnette
Palmetto Racing
Dburn on Ten


>Thats strange, I haven't had any problem with N1999. I have used N1, N2
>and the expansion pack. In N1999 it is generally tougher to race the AI
>at the same 'opps' setting as N2 but have had no problems with the wheel
>calibration or steering that you describe.

Don Burnett

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Don Burnett » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Brian, I'm curious. Are you running the windows executable, or dos? If your
wheel and pedals worked fine for N2, they should work fine for N99 running
in dos. If they only don't work in the win executable, you probably need to
set them up properly in windows.

--
Don Burnette
Palmetto Racing
Dburn on Ten


ymenar

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by ymenar » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

D/A Fischer wrote

Err no.

The only tracks that do not appear are Pocono and North Wilkesboro.  The
first IIRC is because they didn't had the license, the second because it's
not a Nascar track anymore. They also took out the two Fantasy tracks, but
they are also in the /NROS folder.  There is still more than 34tracks in the
title.. so please have facts before saying something.

And you can find those tracks in your /NROS folder btw.  It seems you do not
have the software, so how can you judge it ?

Nascar Racing 3 will be a complete different title, but while waiting,
Nascar Racing : 1999 Edition is an excellent choice.  And it's NOT buggy
<g>. I could tell you that 99% of the racing software on the market are more
buggy than Nascar 1999 Edition.

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

ymenar

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by ymenar » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Brian P. Sweeney, Esq. wrote

Ok.. the best thing is to ask for help..  There's the Sierra tech support
and us also <g>.

Have you tried to calibrate in BOTH the Windows enablers and the Dos
versions ? If so.. in the Windows version, have you tried to calibrate under
both "Papyrus" and "DirectX" ?

And are your sure that your wheel is correctly configured in your Game
Controller panel of Windows95/98 options ?

If you tried all those situations it should work.

And if it doesn't work, try to copy the controls.cfg and calib.val files
from your N2 folder into NR99.  It's absolutly false to judge a title and
say it's buggy just because you have some calibration problems. The
calibration routines of Papyrus are the BEST on the simracing market, and
they even have the possibility now with Direct Input for EVERY wheel or
joystick on the market.

-= Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-= NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-= SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-= Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-= May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

T

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by T » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I really love the game. I am only having problems with the TNT video cards.
Everyone is having that problem. After the Diamond BIOS flash Saturday. I am
not really having any problems now....Itreally love the game

> Same here Ron, N99 has worked great for me. No problems installing,
> calibrating, or getting the sim to run. I think it is well worth it for the
> extra tracks, the tracks, the modified tracks from N2, and the improved AI.
> No, I'm not going to say it is perfect, but it is a blast to run for me.

> --
> Don Burnette
> Palmetto Racing
> Dburn on Ten


> >Thats strange, I haven't had any problem with N1999. I have used N1, N2
> >and the expansion pack. In N1999 it is generally tougher to race the AI
> >at the same 'opps' setting as N2 but have had no problems with the wheel
> >calibration or steering that you describe.

buzar

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by buzar » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Sorry you are having problems. I made a shortcut to the desktop for the
"NR1999.BAT" and everything run great. I patched the sim to TPTCC
for 1999 and am REALLY impressed with the handling model and control.

buzard


John Jone

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by John Jone » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00


What kind of wheel are you trying to use?

 The car wants to turn hard

Are you sure that it isn't the car setup that is causing yor problem?  Check
the steering lock setting.

I also had some trouble initially with wheel calibration, (I use the
thrustmaster NASCAR pro), but eventually I broke down and carefully read the
book.  There is also a great deal of help available at the sierra web site
on their message boards.

If you like NASCAR 2 better, by all means stay with it.  I like NR 99
better.

Have to agree there.

Daxe Rexfor

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Daxe Rexfor » Mon, 25 Jan 1999 04:00:00



You aren't impressed with something that's free?  What do you want for
nothing?  :o)

Works great for me!

Me, too.

It's not the game.  It works fine for me with the wheel and joystick I have
tried with it.

Have you checked the setup of the car?

Well, if it was a bug that could not be corrected, then everyone would be
having this problem and they don't.  Please don't blame the program when it
isn't the program's shortcoming.  Did you first calibrate the wheel or
jooystick in Windows' control panel and THEN in the N1999 calibration?

I do, but then again I have a 3dfx card.

True, but I think your bad experience with the program is peculiar to your
situation, not to the program.  And since it's free anyway, what the heck
are you complaining about?  If you don't like it, throw it away or give it
to someone who likes it, it won't cost you anything.

~daxe
"religion is remedial spirituality"

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Ted

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Ted » Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I have had no problem with it. In fact. I can run it under
windows, which I could not do before. and I never could get
the sound to work with 1 or 2. I works great in 99


Greg Cisk

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Greg Cisk » Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:00:00


I see.

Me too.

Really!

The joystick routine for the DOS version of the game is the same as
Nascar Racing 2 (unfortunately). If you are running the Windows version
and you have your driving device setup properly in the control panel it
will work properly.

What type of wheel do you have and what version of the game are you
running?

Too many bugs? Well in that case I guess I should delete the game and
tell my friend that we can't do modem racing any more. I'll just tell him I
read on the internet that the game we found to be flawless is full of bugs
so we need to ge trid of it. Haha.

Sheesh.

--

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Brian P. Sweeney, Es

NASCAR 1999 - Not Impressed

by Brian P. Sweeney, Es » Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:00:00



>Have you tried to calibrate in BOTH the Windows enablers and the Dos
>versions ? If so.. in the Windows version, have you tried to calibrate under
>both "Papyrus" and "DirectX" ?

Arrrrggghhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No wonder I prefer Macs. Things work right immediately and always on Macs,
and 2 to 3 times faster than on Wintel machines. I mean, Wintel machines
still run antiquated Pentiums, for Pete's sake.

Actually, it's not. Unless things work right form the moment you
double-click on an icon, the program is buggy. Wintel incomplete programs
simply shift programming costs to the user.

Anyway, thanks for the info. I'll slog trough all of this to see if I can
fix the problem.

Well, maybe, but things are factorially easier with a Mac. The game does
look to be worth the trouble.

Thanks a bunch. I'm off to work on this.


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