Well, I guess you can blame me somewhat for the hijacking of the
original question referring only to the Ps/2, because it intrigued me as
to whether this was also a 'feature' of the PC version. Sorry, it has
deflected things away from your original enquiry. Can't help I'm
afraid.
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'The most notable addition is the new alliances and grudge system. Your
performance dictates how difficult or easy a race can be for you. If you
race like a maniac and hit your opponents and knock them off the track
youll end up making enemies. During, or at the end of each race a red
or green icon appears above certain racers who either have a grudge or
have an alliance with you green represents alliance, red represents a
grudge. Both grudges and alliances are also represented by percentages,
Naturally the higher the percentage, the greater the grudge or alliance.
Having an alliance with another racer can cause him to allow you to pass
or share a draft quite frequently. Having a grudge will cause your
opponent to give you a bump at every opportune moment, which can cause
you to lose the race. The best part of the grudge and alliance system is
that it lasts throughout your career or season mode.'
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I've tried the Thunder 2004 demo, and I still prefer NR2003. As you've said
though, each has its "qualities." Personally, I find the grip in Thunder to
be a little wacky, particularly at speed. At Texas, I was practically
drifting through the corners. I couldn't get my time down to match the AI
(100%) in practice until I just threw the car into the turns, waited for the
back end to start sliding, and countersteered. Mind you, I wouldn't want to
do that in a race, but the fact that it even works seems strange. If I take
what I'd consider a more normal approach, the front end just plows while the
AI flies by. Then again, if I get glued to the wall and pull the car off
it, the back end starts a gradual yet uncorrectable slide that leaves me
down in the grass. The setup probably has a lot to do with it, and if you
have one that works better than the defaults, I'd love to give it a go.
That isn't to say I think NR2003 is perfect. The clutch is practically
useless, there might be a tad too much grip at low RPM (especially at the
non-plate tracks), and there are other intangibles that feel off too. It
just seems that -overall- it responds more like I would expect an actual Cup
car to respond. FWIW, I love F1C. Actually, one thing I love about both
F1C and NR2003 is that when the setup is working well, you can really feel
it. I only wish I felt it more often. Anyway, that's just the opinion of
an average driver whose real world experience doesn't extend beyond 40 mph
karts and my daily driver, and I have no misgivings about my naivety when it
comes to the real deal. :)
Alan
Hey buddy, just a couple of tips. I know it takes away from the realism,
but I use the auto clutch feature in the options menu. I do this because I
don't have a clutch pedal, but I have ordered one. Pushing a button for the
clutch seemed a little lame to me. There is also an option to keep the car
stable at low RPM. I think it is in the advanced tab on the options page.
You might try that.
Have a nice day,
Shock
Shock
> > The clutch is practically
> > > useless, there might be a tad too much grip at low RPM (especially at
> the
> > > non-plate tracks), and there are other intangibles that feel off too.
> > > Alan
> > Hey buddy, just a couple of tips. I know it takes away from the
realism,
> > but I use the auto clutch feature in the options menu. I do this
because
> I
> > don't have a clutch pedal, but I have ordered one. Pushing a button for
> the
> > clutch seemed a little lame to me. There is also an option to keep the
> car
> > stable at low RPM. I think it is in the advanced tab on the options
page.
> > You might try that.
> > Have a nice day,
> > Shock
Get extra springs or do the upgrade (http://www.slottweak.com/ IIRC)
yourself as you'll go through a few springs a year. Good feel poor design.
Mitch
> Shock
> > I had the AL perf pedals but I never used the clutch because the clutch
is
> > still modeled as an on/off switch not the linear feel of a real clutch.
> > > The clutch is practically
> > > > useless, there might be a tad too much grip at low RPM (especially
at
> > the
> > > > non-plate tracks), and there are other intangibles that feel off
too.
> > > > Alan
> > > Hey buddy, just a couple of tips. I know it takes away from the
> realism,
> > > but I use the auto clutch feature in the options menu. I do this
> because
> > I
> > > don't have a clutch pedal, but I have ordered one. Pushing a button
for
> > the
> > > clutch seemed a little lame to me. There is also an option to keep
the
> > car
> > > stable at low RPM. I think it is in the advanced tab on the options
> page.
> > > You might try that.
> > > Have a nice day,
> > > Shock
Shock
> Get extra springs or do the upgrade (http://www.slottweak.com/ IIRC)
> yourself as you'll go through a few springs a year. Good feel poor
design.
> Mitch
> > Oh really! D*mn, thats what I ordered! Guess I should have done more
> > research. Oh well, I think AL has a good return policy. Do you know
> about
> > the clutch on the TSW pedals? I might get those if it is more
realistic.
> > Shock
> > > I had the AL perf pedals but I never used the clutch because the
clutch
> is
> > > still modeled as an on/off switch not the linear feel of a real
clutch.
> > > > The clutch is practically
> > > > > useless, there might be a tad too much grip at low RPM (especially
> at
> > > the
> > > > > non-plate tracks), and there are other intangibles that feel off
> too.
> > > > > Alan
> > > > Hey buddy, just a couple of tips. I know it takes away from the
> > realism,
> > > > but I use the auto clutch feature in the options menu. I do this
> > because
> > > I
> > > > don't have a clutch pedal, but I have ordered one. Pushing a button
> for
> > > the
> > > > clutch seemed a little lame to me. There is also an option to keep
> the
> > > car
> > > > stable at low RPM. I think it is in the advanced tab on the options
> > page.
> > > > You might try that.
> > > > Have a nice day,
> > > > Shock
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Definetly no "Sim"; but that is a fun game to play. I have it for the
GameCube and the controls are not too bad, I love racing and banging around
on the dirt tracks and my oldest son is having a blast with his career :-)
Youngest son still thinks it is a crash derby game LOL
Sean
Mitch
> > > Thanks Shock for your reply. By chance do you have the PC Version of
> > > Thunder? If you do does it have this Alliance and Grudge stuff or is
> > > this just something exclusive to the console versions?
> > Exclusive to console version.
> This is an abuse of the word "exclusive". How about - "only the PS2
> version has this bug"?
http://www.easports.com/games/thunder2004/home.jsp
*Online game play available for the PC and PlayStation?2 console only.
^Grudges & Alliances feature available only in console games.
Sean
> > > > Thanks Shock for your reply. By chance do you have the PC Version of
> > > > Thunder? If you do does it have this Alliance and Grudge stuff or is
> > > > this just something exclusive to the console versions?
> > > Exclusive to console version.
> > This is an abuse of the word "exclusive". How about - "only the PS2
> > version has this bug"?
> Not quite correct.
> http://www.easports.com/games/thunder2004/home.jsp
> *Online game play available for the PC and PlayStation?2 console only.
> ^Grudges & Alliances feature available only in console games.
> Sean
Elrikk
As far as the grip feel on the track, I think EA screwed up the
vibration function and you cannot feel your wheels. I believe that is
why it feels more slippery. I went back to Thunder 2002 and compared
from there to 2004. I think 2002 "feels" better to me.
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>> The only game I have that even makes a dent in Papy is
>> Atari/Infogrames Nascar: Dirt to Daytona and even this would need a
>> radical overhaul to be as good as Papy.
>Definetly no "Sim"; but that is a fun game to play. I have it for the
>GameCube and the controls are not too bad, I love racing and banging around
>on the dirt tracks and my oldest son is having a blast with his career :-)
>Youngest son still thinks it is a crash derby game LOL
>Sean
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