rec.autos.simulators

> > I actually bought Thunder 2004 because of all the hype and I was deeply
> > disappointed.

> Then why are you asking if you have to press a button to draft?!

> > I think for most people it is a shock that somebody even slightly
defends
> > Thunder as being a sim, so don't take people too seriously when they
joke
> > around about it.  I personally think EA has the potential (and $$$) to
> make
> > a great sim (F1C is great), but I don't think they will do it because
more
> > $$$ are related to arcade style games rather than sims.  What I would
like
> > to see happen is EA hiring Papyrus to make a sim or to even release
future
> > versions of Nascar Racing Season.  At the same time EA could continue to
> > release Thunder for all the little kiddies to play.  My nephews love it,
> but
> > they are 10 and 7.  Opinions are opinions and more power to ya if you
like
> > Thunder!  Play it until the end of time, but unless it improves it is my
> > humble opinion that most dedicated sim racers probably won't join ya.

> > Have a nice day!

> > Shock

> You're a no nothing dumbass. The PS2 and PC versions of Nascar Thunder
2004
> are not even developed by the same people. Look up Tiburion and then ISI.
> No! There is no button to press in order to draft in the PC version. The
PC
> version of Thunder *2004* is almost as much a sim of Nascar racing as the
> Papyrus version.

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> > >   If you could run N4, as you imply, you can run 03 just fine.

> > Really?  My frame rates dropped in half from N4 to N2003, until I
upgraded
> > my PC.  N2003 asks a lot more of a system than N4 does.

> > My exerience.  Your mileage may vary, as, I'm sure, does Lacy's

> > cheers
> > John

>   <shrug>  No change at all here, maybe even slightly better with 03.  On
a
> lowly P4 1.4

> Mitch

> > > >   If you could run N4, as you imply, you can run 03 just fine.

> > > Really?  My frame rates dropped in half from N4 to N2003, until I
> upgraded
> > > my PC.  N2003 asks a lot more of a system than N4 does.

> > > My exerience.  Your mileage may vary, as, I'm sure, does Lacy's

> > > cheers
> > > John

> >   <shrug>  No change at all here, maybe even slightly better with 03.
On
> a
> > lowly P4 1.4

> No, it doesn't affect the draft itself. You can still do this without
> pressing R2. Draft sharing is for the Grudges and Alliance sytem that
> EA has in Thunder 2004. I have raced without it before and done quite
> well. The only thing I had a question about is whether you can "share
> a draft" with the car behind you as the manual seems to indicate but
> does not specifically say how to accomplish within the Grudges and
> Alliance Sytem.

> I have found things I like about all of them and thing I don't like.
> It is really up the the individual which one he likes at any
> particular moment in time.

> Anyway, my original question still has not been answered. Any
> intelligent person would have answered the question (even if it was to
> say that they don't know) and been done with it. Instead we have some
> people who would rather argue about something that has nothing to do
> with the original point of the topic.

> Bill Bollinger
> www.gsxn.com

> > > When I started this thread it was just a simple question about Thunder
> > > 04 for PS2. I never intended to start a "which sim is better" debate.
> > > I have raced Papy since the first one came out untill the last
> > > versions came out. The game outgrew my system after N4. I have since
> > > that time been using the PS2 Versions from EA and  Infogrames.

> > > I have found things I like about all of them and thing I don't like.
> > > It is really up the the individual which one he likes at any
> > > particular moment in time.

> > > Anyway, my original question still has not been answered. Any
> > > intelligent person would have answered the question (even if it was to
> > > say that they don't know) and been done with it. Instead we have some
> > > people who would rather argue about something that has nothing to do
> > > with the original point of the topic.

> >     To be further pedantic, a game of this nature has no place in a
forum
> > called rec.autos.***simulators***

> >     Sorry, couldn't resist.

>> I think for most people it is a shock that somebody even slightly defends
>> Thunder as being a sim, so don't take people too seriously when they joke
>> around about it.  I personally think EA has the potential (and $$$) to
>make
>> a great sim (F1C is great), but I don't think they will do it because more
>> $$$ are related to arcade style games rather than sims.  What I would like
>> to see happen is EA hiring Papyrus to make a sim or to even release
>future
>> versions of Nascar Racing Season.  At the same time EA could continue
>to
>> release Thunder for all the little kiddies to play.  My nephews love it,
>but
>> they are 10 and 7.  Opinions are opinions and more power to ya if you like
>> Thunder!  Play it until the end of time, but unless it improves it is my
>> humble opinion that most dedicated sim racers probably won't join ya.

>> Have a nice day!

>> Shock

>You're a no nothing dumbass. The PS2 and PC versions of Nascar Thunder
>2004
>are not even developed by the same people. Look up Tiburion and then ISI.
>No! There is no button to press in order to draft in the PC version. The PC
>version of Thunder *2004* is almost as much a sim of Nascar racing as the
>Papyrus version.