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OT: A Few Comments

Tom Pabs

OT: A Few Comments

by Tom Pabs » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 07:12:43

A few OT comments:

1.  I have been on a business trip/family visit....to Los Angeles, CA since
Tuesday, Nov 6th (morning), I returned the evening of Nov 11th (Saturday).
On the trip home, I managed to acquire some form of food poisoning (not
anthrax) and have been recovering since.  Because of the airport security
issues here in the US, I did not take my laptop with me on this trip which
meant I would not have access to this newsgroup or my email.  Today is the
first day I've visited R.A.S. since the afternoon of Nov 5th.  I thought
this might be useful information for a few of you who seem to think I would
be an active and vocal member of this sim community for nearly five
years......and a few "flames" would chase me away.

2.  I'm calling this post an "OT" post because I'm not going to comment
about the pre-Nov 4th topics any further than I already have.  I said, I was
kidding about the "fast guys (Aliens) cheating in GPL post".....those of you
who won't or can't accept that answer can FOAD.  Thank you....the majority
of this sim community would appreciate you expediting that.

3.  Who the fark is "Gavel".....???  I don't remember him from TEN but he
sure seems to remember me.  I guess that just explains why I stopped sending
out those defective T-shirts with my autograph and picture on it.....near
the end of the TEN era!  He must have gotten one of those (maybe he bought
the "two-pack" set???).... and has really been pissed off all this time for
spending $129.95 and didn't get my real autograph!  There's a very good
reason I couldn't sign thousands and thousands of those "Pabst Photo"
t-shirts.....but that's just old news so I'll let it be in the past.  To
Gavel:  If you send me back the Pabst T-Shirt....I promise I will sign my
real signature on it and return it to you "postage pre-paid".....  Will that
make you happy?  Will you stop being such an asshole if I do that?  I hope?
I'm really sorry for stressing you out for all these years, dude!   And by
the way, Greg.....what you might have thought were "lectures" by me about my
SCCA racing was probably something more along these lines:  4 years ago I
was probably the only active and vocal member of the online racing community
with extensive experience and background also in real-world racing.  There
may have been a couple other guys who'd won two SCCA championships,
instructed in SCCA race licensing schools and so forth....but I didn't know
of any.  Because of that, I was pretty much bombarded when ever I would race
on TEN using my own name.  There were tons of people who wanted to know if
"sim racing was realistic"....questions about racing lines at tracks I had
raced on for real....and I can imagine that you can guess other questions?
After a few months of this, I realized I couldn't "race" on TEN under my
real name, so I created (and paid for) a second account which I used for
pickup racing and did most of my racing about 90% under that pseudo-name.
When I had time to talk about racing and chat with other sim drivers, I
would sign onto TEN with my real name....and was very glad to answer
questions, take new drivers into a track and help them with problems they
were having and so forth.  If you popped into a TEN arena chat room and saw
me engaged in one of these "conversations," it might be easy for you to
think that's all I did...and that I was "lecturing" everyone in the room
about how much I knew about racing.  Perhaps had you been in the chat arena
from the first question....you might have realized I was just engaging
others in answers for questions they had asked me.  Since I haven't got a
clue who you are or remember ever talking with you about this issue, you
clearly never asked me why I was doing this "lecturing" as you called it.
Had you done that Greg, you would have heard from me the same thing I've
said countless times in the last 4 to 5 years: "My real racing background is
a handicap for me to become "fast" in sim racing.  I will never be as fast
or as good of a sim driver as many who dedicate themselves to this e-sport
as a full-time hobby.  My brain will always be confused to a certain extent
by the 15 years it spent racing in a real race car......by the sim car I now
drive."  I believe this is a fact also explained by many other real-world
drivers who have taken up sim racing in the last four years.  Today, I'm not
so unique in that regard.......you know?

I don't know what the fark your remark was about "saying goodbye and going
off to make sim racing better for everyone".....you pulled that out of your
arse for sure.  I left TEN the same month you did....when it closed.  If you
want to press the issue?  Let's do this.  Let's start a new string right
here on r.a.s.  I'll put my record up for the last three years of what I've
done to "Bridge the gap between real-world racing and sim
racing".....against your record for what you've done ....and we'll see who
has contributed to this new e-sport....and who hasn't.  Is that a deal?  I
know what I've done in the last three years to help raise the level of
awareness about sim racing, its drivers and participants to people I know in
real-world racing!

What the fark have you done in that same time?

4.  There's a "sub-post" under the string: "Re: GPL2 Confirmed" by "Ryan"
made on 11/13/01 at 11:12 pm:

    Comment:  You owe somebody $20 bucks, jack!  I don't need it......maybe
you should send it to Gavel....he might?  Better yet, send it Guy Wilson via
PayPal, so he can use it to fund the continuance of the VROC servers.  I
expect you to post "proof" that you have done that on this newsgroup.
Thanks.....but you probably won't.

5.  There's a string below starting on 11/12/01 at 3:16 am by Andre,
entitled: "Aliens VS Pabst" with 38 sub-posts under it.  Not one of them
refers to me or anything about this "issue" between myself and the so-called
"aliens" of GPL (and N4).  However, the entire string that I read (I stopped
reading after a dozen or so sub-posts...since it had nothing to do with me)
would have been better titled: "Aliens VS Fisher"......how the fark did my
name get sucked into this?  And to David Fisher:  I don't know why
everyone's pounding you dude, but your "slate" is clean with me since I
don't really know you.  But, I would like to "thank you" for the things you
pointed out in the original post that started all this crap.  At the time,
you were a "lone voice of reasonableness" and I appreciate you having the
guts to stand up and say what you did.  That was cool.

6.  To those of you organizing the "Pabst For President" write-in campaign:
I should tell you that I'm not officially a candidate for this position at
this time.  However, I will tell that if for some reason I should be elected
to the presidency, one of my first acts as the new US President would be to
ask Congress to send $4.5 million funding to Papyrus....immediately.....with
the proviso that they create GPL-2, covering F1 cars and physics for years
1968 through 2001......with annual releases of at least 5 years each year
starting this coming Spring-2002.  Also, Papyrus would be required to
release a beta version of a GPL -physics- CART sim....no later than June
2002...and allow all current VROC and GPL sim community members to
participate in the beta testing and development of this "add-on" sim for
GPL-2....which must be completed by Christmas-2002 (or they won't get
another $4.5 mil for 2003).  Now, as I said, I'm not officially running for
this position....but I just thought it would be important to let you all
know what I would do if I was accidentally to be elected via this write-in
campaign that has seem to have been started while I was traveling in Los
Angeles last week.

7.  To those of you who have organized the nightly VROC "Death To Pabst"
championship race series:  I was going to send you a bill for the
unauthorized use of my now-infamous name to promote your new online racing
series (league).  However, my attorney pointed out that with those races
being primarily driven by the GPL "hotlapping" aliens......nobody ever
completes more than two or three laps of the 20 lap event.....so it might
not be worth actually trying to extract any funds for this illegal use of my
name.  Of course, I totally forgot about that....and I agreed with him
completely.  So, you may continue using my name for your new GPL
league......you now have my permission to do that and continue your activity
(I wanted to called it "racing" but I have a hard time using that term with
hotlapping-crashing......what else could I call this???  "activity" seems
like the only word I could use at the moment).

8.  To those of your who participated in the nightly "Pabst Bashing" on Nov
3rd thru Nov 6th on VROC.......even though you admitted to never having
actually read any of my posts on r.a.s. and you were just pissed at me
because of what a few of your fellow VROC'ers were posting in the VROC chat
room, about what "they said, I said"........I say this to you, now:  "Shame
on you."

I should be 100% recovered from this food poisoning by tomorrow....and will
be "back" on r.a.s. regularly - soon thereafter.  Sorry...I am aware that
may be "bad news" to some of you.

Regards,

Tom Pabst

PS:  To those of you who wrote email to BRD expressing a reasonable concern
about whether I should be representing their products in the USA, when I am
at the same time, one of the vocal participants within the online sim racing
community....and may at times in that role, be involved in some level of
controversy:  May I say that your right to notify of BRD of this concern of
yours is not at issue.  But, I would point out to you that BRD is not my
employer, they can not "fire me" as such, and they have been working with
Pabst-Racing for over three years now and they are fully aware of my status
within the sim racing community as a vocal participant in it....they always
have been.  I'm sure BRD is fully capable of making the ongoing decisions
whether I and others who ...

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Dan Leac

OT: A Few Comments

by Dan Leac » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 08:41:36

     Once again soemone has to point out to pointless pabst that the fastest
hotlappers are the most consistent racers too. Look at any top div in the
main leagues. btw .. do u take lessons in boring?
   dan ( an insect)
"Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@home.com> wrote in message

news:v%BI7.12774$RG1.6430189@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com...
> A few OT comments:

> 1.  I have been on a business trip/family visit....to Los Angeles, CA
since
> Tuesday, Nov 6th (morning), I returned the evening of Nov 11th (Saturday).
> On the trip home, I managed to acquire some form of food poisoning (not
> anthrax) and have been recovering since.  Because of the airport security
> issues here in the US, I did not take my laptop with me on this trip which
> meant I would not have access to this newsgroup or my email.  Today is the
> first day I've visited R.A.S. since the afternoon of Nov 5th.  I thought
> this might be useful information for a few of you who seem to think I
would
> be an active and vocal member of this sim community for nearly five
> years......and a few "flames" would chase me away.

> 2.  I'm calling this post an "OT" post because I'm not going to comment
> about the pre-Nov 4th topics any further than I already have.  I said, I
was
> kidding about the "fast guys (Aliens) cheating in GPL post".....those of
you
> who won't or can't accept that answer can FOAD.  Thank you....the majority
> of this sim community would appreciate you expediting that.

> 3.  Who the fark is "Gavel".....???  I don't remember him from TEN but he
> sure seems to remember me.  I guess that just explains why I stopped
sending
> out those defective T-shirts with my autograph and picture on it.....near
> the end of the TEN era!  He must have gotten one of those (maybe he bought
> the "two-pack" set???).... and has really been pissed off all this time
for
> spending $129.95 and didn't get my real autograph!  There's a very good
> reason I couldn't sign thousands and thousands of those "Pabst Photo"
> t-shirts.....but that's just old news so I'll let it be in the past.  To
> Gavel:  If you send me back the Pabst T-Shirt....I promise I will sign my
> real signature on it and return it to you "postage pre-paid".....  Will
that
> make you happy?  Will you stop being such an asshole if I do that?  I
hope?
> I'm really sorry for stressing you out for all these years, dude!   And by
> the way, Greg.....what you might have thought were "lectures" by me about
my
> SCCA racing was probably something more along these lines:  4 years ago I
> was probably the only active and vocal member of the online racing
community
> with extensive experience and background also in real-world racing.  There
> may have been a couple other guys who'd won two SCCA championships,
> instructed in SCCA race licensing schools and so forth....but I didn't
know
> of any.  Because of that, I was pretty much bombarded when ever I would
race
> on TEN using my own name.  There were tons of people who wanted to know if
> "sim racing was realistic"....questions about racing lines at tracks I had
> raced on for real....and I can imagine that you can guess other questions?
> After a few months of this, I realized I couldn't "race" on TEN under my
> real name, so I created (and paid for) a second account which I used for
> pickup racing and did most of my racing about 90% under that pseudo-name.
> When I had time to talk about racing and chat with other sim drivers, I
> would sign onto TEN with my real name....and was very glad to answer
> questions, take new drivers into a track and help them with problems they
> were having and so forth.  If you popped into a TEN arena chat room and
saw
> me engaged in one of these "conversations," it might be easy for you to
> think that's all I did...and that I was "lecturing" everyone in the room
> about how much I knew about racing.  Perhaps had you been in the chat
arena
> from the first question....you might have realized I was just engaging
> others in answers for questions they had asked me.  Since I haven't got a
> clue who you are or remember ever talking with you about this issue, you
> clearly never asked me why I was doing this "lecturing" as you called it.
> Had you done that Greg, you would have heard from me the same thing I've
> said countless times in the last 4 to 5 years: "My real racing background
is
> a handicap for me to become "fast" in sim racing.  I will never be as fast
> or as good of a sim driver as many who dedicate themselves to this e-sport
> as a full-time hobby.  My brain will always be confused to a certain
extent
> by the 15 years it spent racing in a real race car......by the sim car I
now
> drive."  I believe this is a fact also explained by many other real-world
> drivers who have taken up sim racing in the last four years.  Today, I'm
not
> so unique in that regard.......you know?

> I don't know what the fark your remark was about "saying goodbye and going
> off to make sim racing better for everyone".....you pulled that out of
your
> arse for sure.  I left TEN the same month you did....when it closed.  If
you
> want to press the issue?  Let's do this.  Let's start a new string right
> here on r.a.s.  I'll put my record up for the last three years of what
I've
> done to "Bridge the gap between real-world racing and sim
> racing".....against your record for what you've done ....and we'll see who
> has contributed to this new e-sport....and who hasn't.  Is that a deal?  I
> know what I've done in the last three years to help raise the level of
> awareness about sim racing, its drivers and participants to people I know
in
> real-world racing!

> What the fark have you done in that same time?

> 4.  There's a "sub-post" under the string: "Re: GPL2 Confirmed" by "Ryan"
> made on 11/13/01 at 11:12 pm:

>     Comment:  You owe somebody $20 bucks, jack!  I don't need
it......maybe
> you should send it to Gavel....he might?  Better yet, send it Guy Wilson
via
> PayPal, so he can use it to fund the continuance of the VROC servers.  I
> expect you to post "proof" that you have done that on this newsgroup.
> Thanks.....but you probably won't.

> 5.  There's a string below starting on 11/12/01 at 3:16 am by Andre,
> entitled: "Aliens VS Pabst" with 38 sub-posts under it.  Not one of them
> refers to me or anything about this "issue" between myself and the
so-called
> "aliens" of GPL (and N4).  However, the entire string that I read (I
stopped
> reading after a dozen or so sub-posts...since it had nothing to do with
me)
> would have been better titled: "Aliens VS Fisher"......how the fark did my
> name get sucked into this?  And to David Fisher:  I don't know why
> everyone's pounding you dude, but your "slate" is clean with me since I
> don't really know you.  But, I would like to "thank you" for the things
you
> pointed out in the original post that started all this crap.  At the time,
> you were a "lone voice of reasonableness" and I appreciate you having the
> guts to stand up and say what you did.  That was cool.

> 6.  To those of you organizing the "Pabst For President" write-in
campaign:
> I should tell you that I'm not officially a candidate for this position at
> this time.  However, I will tell that if for some reason I should be
elected
> to the presidency, one of my first acts as the new US President would be
to
> ask Congress to send $4.5 million funding to

Papyrus....immediately.....with

- Show quoted text -

> the proviso that they create GPL-2, covering F1 cars and physics for years
> 1968 through 2001......with annual releases of at least 5 years each year
> starting this coming Spring-2002.  Also, Papyrus would be required to
> release a beta version of a GPL -physics- CART sim....no later than June
> 2002...and allow all current VROC and GPL sim community members to
> participate in the beta testing and development of this "add-on" sim for
> GPL-2....which must be completed by Christmas-2002 (or they won't get
> another $4.5 mil for 2003).  Now, as I said, I'm not officially running
for
> this position....but I just thought it would be important to let you all
> know what I would do if I was accidentally to be elected via this write-in
> campaign that has seem to have been started while I was traveling in Los
> Angeles last week.

> 7.  To those of you who have organized the nightly VROC "Death To Pabst"
> championship race series:  I was going to send you a bill for the
> unauthorized use of my now-infamous name to promote your new online racing
> series (league).  However, my attorney pointed out that with those races
> being primarily driven by the GPL "hotlapping" aliens......nobody ever
> completes more than two or three laps of the 20 lap event.....so it might
> not be worth actually trying to extract any funds for this illegal use of
my
> name.  Of course, I totally forgot about that....and I agreed with him
> completely.  So, you may continue using my name for your new GPL
> league......you now have my permission to do that and continue your
activity
> (I wanted to called it "racing" but I have a hard time using that term
with
> hotlapping-crashing......what else could I call this???  "activity" seems
> like the only word I could use at the moment).

> 8.  To those of your who participated in the nightly "Pabst Bashing" on
Nov
> 3rd thru Nov 6th on VROC.......even though you admitted to never having
> actually read any of my posts on r.a.s. and you were just pissed at me
> because of what a few of your fellow VROC'ers were posting in the VROC
chat
> room, about what "they said, I said"........I say this to you, now:
"Shame
> on you."

> I should be 100% recovered from this food poisoning by tomorrow....and
will
> be "back" on r.a.s. regularly - soon thereafter.  Sorry...I am aware that
> may be "bad news" to some of you.

> Regards,

> Tom Pabst

> PS:  To those of you who wrote email to BRD expressing a reasonable
concern
> about whether I should be representing their products in the USA, when I
am
> at the same

...

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Jan Verschuere

OT: A Few Comments

by Jan Verschuere » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 09:23:17

Oh dear, a hypocrite with a lawyer. Sad.

Jan.
=---
"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

don hodgdo

OT: A Few Comments

by don hodgdo » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 11:08:42


*yawn*

Ryan

OT: A Few Comments

by Ryan » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:24:20

"> 4.  There's a "sub-post" under the string: "Re: GPL2 Confirmed" by "Ryan"

Yes sir, Mr. Pabst, sir!!  We were all "expecting" you to post "proof" of
all this cheating too, so when that happens, I'll gladly put in $20 for
VROC.  I was simply commenting on your absence from RAS over the last ~10
days or so, that's it.  Anyway, my name's not jack.

Ryan

Andre Warrin

OT: A Few Comments

by Andre Warrin » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 18:59:15



That sucks Tom.. Hope you feel better soon (nobody will believe me,
but I mean that :)

<S>
<N>
<I>
<P>

<snip>

You must have missed my original post then.. you challenged me to a
Monza race and I replied it would be a nicer idea to have a full
distance race on the Ring, full damage, together with a bunch of
aliens. What better way to test who are the better/more consistent
drivers Tom, average drivers like you and me or the aliens?

Come on, accept it, let's have some fun. Who knows, maybe all the
aliens will crash and you have proven your point, maybe all the aliens
will finish and you will see them in a different light. It's NOT meant
as a 'lets kick Tom's ass' race, allthough obviously a lot of people
will think differently :)        

Yes.. that is quite obvious :)

YEAH I got my first DGF fanclub member! :)

Andre

Martin Granbe

OT: A Few Comments

by Martin Granbe » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 19:38:55



I'm in! Can swedish guys vote too, please? :)

Cheers,

/Martin

Scott B. Huste

OT: A Few Comments

by Scott B. Huste » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 23:09:59

*cough, cough*  Hey Tom.. you forgot somebody!!   ;)

Scott
PA-Scott



> <snip>

> > 4 years ago I was probably the only active and vocal member of the
online
> > racing community with extensive experience and background also in
> real-world racing.

> <cough> untrue, and also quite ego-centrical.  Plenty of us are real-life
> racers around the world, and yes even the vocals ones.  That was
unecessary,
> you are NOT superior to anybody.

Wayne Bradle

OT: A Few Comments

by Wayne Bradle » Sat, 17 Nov 2001 00:55:48

Man Tom,

You are really touched in the head. The more I read from you through the
years, the more convinced I become that you are mental.

And it seems to be getting MUCH worse.

Please seek help!

And spare us the book!

"Tom Pabst" <tmpa...@home.com> wrote in message

news:v%BI7.12774$RG1.6430189@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com...
> A few OT comments:

> 1.  I have been on a business trip/family visit....to Los Angeles, CA
since
> Tuesday, Nov 6th (morning), I returned the evening of Nov 11th (Saturday).
> On the trip home, I managed to acquire some form of food poisoning (not
> anthrax) and have been recovering since.  Because of the airport security
> issues here in the US, I did not take my laptop with me on this trip which
> meant I would not have access to this newsgroup or my email.  Today is the
> first day I've visited R.A.S. since the afternoon of Nov 5th.  I thought
> this might be useful information for a few of you who seem to think I
would
> be an active and vocal member of this sim community for nearly five
> years......and a few "flames" would chase me away.

> 2.  I'm calling this post an "OT" post because I'm not going to comment
> about the pre-Nov 4th topics any further than I already have.  I said, I
was
> kidding about the "fast guys (Aliens) cheating in GPL post".....those of
you
> who won't or can't accept that answer can FOAD.  Thank you....the majority
> of this sim community would appreciate you expediting that.

> 3.  Who the fark is "Gavel".....???  I don't remember him from TEN but he
> sure seems to remember me.  I guess that just explains why I stopped
sending
> out those defective T-shirts with my autograph and picture on it.....near
> the end of the TEN era!  He must have gotten one of those (maybe he bought
> the "two-pack" set???).... and has really been pissed off all this time
for
> spending $129.95 and didn't get my real autograph!  There's a very good
> reason I couldn't sign thousands and thousands of those "Pabst Photo"
> t-shirts.....but that's just old news so I'll let it be in the past.  To
> Gavel:  If you send me back the Pabst T-Shirt....I promise I will sign my
> real signature on it and return it to you "postage pre-paid".....  Will
that
> make you happy?  Will you stop being such an asshole if I do that?  I
hope?
> I'm really sorry for stressing you out for all these years, dude!   And by
> the way, Greg.....what you might have thought were "lectures" by me about
my
> SCCA racing was probably something more along these lines:  4 years ago I
> was probably the only active and vocal member of the online racing
community
> with extensive experience and background also in real-world racing.  There
> may have been a couple other guys who'd won two SCCA championships,
> instructed in SCCA race licensing schools and so forth....but I didn't
know
> of any.  Because of that, I was pretty much bombarded when ever I would
race
> on TEN using my own name.  There were tons of people who wanted to know if
> "sim racing was realistic"....questions about racing lines at tracks I had
> raced on for real....and I can imagine that you can guess other questions?
> After a few months of this, I realized I couldn't "race" on TEN under my
> real name, so I created (and paid for) a second account which I used for
> pickup racing and did most of my racing about 90% under that pseudo-name.
> When I had time to talk about racing and chat with other sim drivers, I
> would sign onto TEN with my real name....and was very glad to answer
> questions, take new drivers into a track and help them with problems they
> were having and so forth.  If you popped into a TEN arena chat room and
saw
> me engaged in one of these "conversations," it might be easy for you to
> think that's all I did...and that I was "lecturing" everyone in the room
> about how much I knew about racing.  Perhaps had you been in the chat
arena
> from the first question....you might have realized I was just engaging
> others in answers for questions they had asked me.  Since I haven't got a
> clue who you are or remember ever talking with you about this issue, you
> clearly never asked me why I was doing this "lecturing" as you called it.
> Had you done that Greg, you would have heard from me the same thing I've
> said countless times in the last 4 to 5 years: "My real racing background
is
> a handicap for me to become "fast" in sim racing.  I will never be as fast
> or as good of a sim driver as many who dedicate themselves to this e-sport
> as a full-time hobby.  My brain will always be confused to a certain
extent
> by the 15 years it spent racing in a real race car......by the sim car I
now
> drive."  I believe this is a fact also explained by many other real-world
> drivers who have taken up sim racing in the last four years.  Today, I'm
not
> so unique in that regard.......you know?

> I don't know what the fark your remark was about "saying goodbye and going
> off to make sim racing better for everyone".....you pulled that out of
your
> arse for sure.  I left TEN the same month you did....when it closed.  If
you
> want to press the issue?  Let's do this.  Let's start a new string right
> here on r.a.s.  I'll put my record up for the last three years of what
I've
> done to "Bridge the gap between real-world racing and sim
> racing".....against your record for what you've done ....and we'll see who
> has contributed to this new e-sport....and who hasn't.  Is that a deal?  I
> know what I've done in the last three years to help raise the level of
> awareness about sim racing, its drivers and participants to people I know
in
> real-world racing!

> What the fark have you done in that same time?

> 4.  There's a "sub-post" under the string: "Re: GPL2 Confirmed" by "Ryan"
> made on 11/13/01 at 11:12 pm:

>     Comment:  You owe somebody $20 bucks, jack!  I don't need
it......maybe
> you should send it to Gavel....he might?  Better yet, send it Guy Wilson
via
> PayPal, so he can use it to fund the continuance of the VROC servers.  I
> expect you to post "proof" that you have done that on this newsgroup.
> Thanks.....but you probably won't.

> 5.  There's a string below starting on 11/12/01 at 3:16 am by Andre,
> entitled: "Aliens VS Pabst" with 38 sub-posts under it.  Not one of them
> refers to me or anything about this "issue" between myself and the
so-called
> "aliens" of GPL (and N4).  However, the entire string that I read (I
stopped
> reading after a dozen or so sub-posts...since it had nothing to do with
me)
> would have been better titled: "Aliens VS Fisher"......how the fark did my
> name get sucked into this?  And to David Fisher:  I don't know why
> everyone's pounding you dude, but your "slate" is clean with me since I
> don't really know you.  But, I would like to "thank you" for the things
you
> pointed out in the original post that started all this crap.  At the time,
> you were a "lone voice of reasonableness" and I appreciate you having the
> guts to stand up and say what you did.  That was cool.

> 6.  To those of you organizing the "Pabst For President" write-in
campaign:
> I should tell you that I'm not officially a candidate for this position at
> this time.  However, I will tell that if for some reason I should be
elected
> to the presidency, one of my first acts as the new US President would be
to
> ask Congress to send $4.5 million funding to

Papyrus....immediately.....with

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> the proviso that they create GPL-2, covering F1 cars and physics for years
> 1968 through 2001......with annual releases of at least 5 years each year
> starting this coming Spring-2002.  Also, Papyrus would be required to
> release a beta version of a GPL -physics- CART sim....no later than June
> 2002...and allow all current VROC and GPL sim community members to
> participate in the beta testing and development of this "add-on" sim for
> GPL-2....which must be completed by Christmas-2002 (or they won't get
> another $4.5 mil for 2003).  Now, as I said, I'm not officially running
for
> this position....but I just thought it would be important to let you all
> know what I would do if I was accidentally to be elected via this write-in
> campaign that has seem to have been started while I was traveling in Los
> Angeles last week.

> 7.  To those of you who have organized the nightly VROC "Death To Pabst"
> championship race series:  I was going to send you a bill for the
> unauthorized use of my now-infamous name to promote your new online racing
> series (league).  However, my attorney pointed out that with those races
> being primarily driven by the GPL "hotlapping" aliens......nobody ever
> completes more than two or three laps of the 20 lap event.....so it might
> not be worth actually trying to extract any funds for this illegal use of
my
> name.  Of course, I totally forgot about that....and I agreed with him
> completely.  So, you may continue using my name for your new GPL
> league......you now have my permission to do that and continue your
activity
> (I wanted to called it "racing" but I have a hard time using that term
with
> hotlapping-crashing......what else could I call this???  "activity" seems
> like the only word I could use at the moment).

> 8.  To those of your who participated in the nightly "Pabst Bashing" on
Nov
> 3rd thru Nov 6th on VROC.......even though you admitted to never having
> actually read any of my posts on r.a.s. and you were just pissed at me
> because of what a few of your fellow VROC'ers were posting in the VROC
chat
> room, about what "they said, I said"........I say this to you, now:
"Shame
> on you."

> I should be 100% recovered from this food poisoning by tomorrow....and
will
> be "back" on r.a.s. regularly - soon thereafter.  Sorry...I am aware that
> may be "bad news" to some of you.

> Regards,

> Tom Pabst

> PS:  To those of you who wrote email to BRD expressing a reasonable
concern
> about whether I should be representing their products in the USA, when I
am
> at the

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Goy Larse

OT: A Few Comments

by Goy Larse » Sat, 17 Nov 2001 01:45:43




> >6.  To those of you organizing the "Pabst For President" write-in campaign:
> >I should tell you that I'm not officially a candidate for this position at
> >this time.  However, I will tell that if for some reason I should be elected
> >to the presidency, one of my first acts as the new US President would be to
> >ask Congress to send $4.5 million funding to Papyrus....immediately.....with
> >the proviso that they create GPL-2, covering F1 cars and physics for years
> >1968 through 2001......with annual releases of at least 5 years each year
> >starting this coming Spring-2002.  Also, Papyrus would be required to
> >release a beta version of a GPL -physics- CART sim....no later than June
> >2002...and allow all current VROC and GPL sim community members to
> >participate in the beta testing and development of this "add-on" sim for
> >GPL-2....which must be completed by Christmas-2002 (or they won't get
> >another $4.5 mil for 2003).

> I'm in! Can swedish guys vote too, please? :)

> Cheers,

> /Martin

I'm not in, I'm not *that* desperate.....

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OT: A Few Comments

by Goy Larse » Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:02:58

Sorry to hear about your food poisoning, I hear it's not much fun.....

Gavel is Greg Avella, used to be a fairly vocal member of the t.g.n.s
and later Jacob's NG.....

And btw Tom, I think most of us, even the non english speaking members,
didn't assume you had anthrax poisoning when you said you had food
poisoning, even without looking it up in a dictionary

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OT: A Few Comments

by Martin Granbe » Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:06:42


>I'm not in, I'm not *that* desperate.....

Well, I must admit I rarely have the mental strength to read Tom's
lengthy posts so I'm not sure how he compares to the average
president. Can't be that bad can it?

But when I comes to good open-wheeler sims I'll do almost anything! :)

Cheers,

/Martin

Goy Larse

OT: A Few Comments

by Goy Larse » Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:17:37


> *cough, cough*  Hey Tom.. you forgot somebody!!   ;)

No, he was talking about people with racing experience, doing a bit of
Sunday Driving just isn't the same Scott :-)

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OT: A Few Comments

by Goy Larse » Sat, 17 Nov 2001 02:24:02



> >I'm not in, I'm not *that* desperate.....

> Well, I must admit I rarely have the mental strength to read Tom's
> lengthy posts so I'm not sure how he compares to the average
> president. Can't be that bad can it?

> But when I comes to good open-wheeler sims I'll do almost anything! :)

Put it like this Martin, I'm a Socialist, the good old fashioned
Scandinavian kind :-) and I'd rather vote GWB....

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