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by **Karl Zose** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Hi,

So I finally gave up on the PDPI-L4 gameport.
I think it doesn't exist anymore.

So I will replace my T2 with a newer USB wheel.

What is the best wheel for GPL??

Important:
1 not TOOOO expensive (TSW... forget it!)
2 split axis for throttle and brakes
3 good solod quality

Karl

by LL » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

ACT LABS! ACT LABS!

by **m.seer** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Over to you Mr Kenewell <G>

MS

by **Ace** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Was the incorrect spelling of"Kennewell" done on purpose?

by **Simon Brow** » Thu, 04 May 2000 04:00:00

Haven't used the Act Labs, so can't comment, but you may like to know that
the Guillemot Ferrari is a load of cheap rubbish, and the new USB version of
the MS Sidewinder FF wheel has a driver bug that slows GPL down about 30%
(hopefully MS will fix this).
Also the Thrustmaster FF is poor.
I use the Logitech which is excellent, apart from the pedals, so I bought a
MS USB Sidewinder Precision Racing Racing (non FF, doesn't have the driver
bug either) so i could use just the pedals.
A very nice combination.
BTW force-feedback makes me much more consistent on GPL.

by **m.seer** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

;-)

MS

> Was the incorrect spelling of"Kennewell" done on purpose?

> > > 3 good solod quality

> > Over to you Mr Kenewell <G>

> > MS

> > > Karl

by **m.seer** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

You should know by now that anyone correcting gramma or sbelling is obliged
to make some mistakes himself, otherwise the thread dies <G>

MS

> Was the incorrect spelling of"Kennewell" done on purpose?

> > > 3 good solod quality

> > Over to you Mr Kenewell <G>

> > MS

> > > Karl

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

I've used the Guillemot, MS, and Logitech wheels extensively, and without
doubt my favourite is the Guillemot Ferrari wheel. It has solid
construction, excellent feel to the wheel, well placed paddles and good
effects in GPL (and others). Some people had problems with the paddles
breaking, but they changed the design, and everything is fine now.
It also has good pedals, which is my main problem with the Logitech wheel -
they are just too close together.
I liked the MS wheel, and didn't experience the slowdown that Simon
mentioned, but I was using the serial version not USB.
Iain

by **Karl Zose** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

WHY? Please explain

by **Ace** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

Oh wil u loik at taht, youve' dun it agen!!!
(help, I've turned into Keiran Larkin<eg>)

> You should know by now that anyone correcting gramma or sbelling is
obliged
> to make some mistakes himself, otherwise the thread dies <G>

> MS

> > Was the incorrect spelling of"Kennewell" done on purpose?

> > > > 3 good solod quality

> > > Over to you Mr Kenewell <G>

> > > MS

> > > > Karl

by **m.seer** » Fri, 05 May 2000 04:00:00

LIL.

Datz better d00d <S>

Miok

> Oh wil u loik at taht, youve' dun it agen!!!
> (help, I've turned into Keiran Larkin<eg>)

> > You should know by now that anyone correcting gramma or sbelling is
> obliged
> > to make some mistakes himself, otherwise the thread dies <G>

> > MS

> > > Was the incorrect spelling of"Kennewell" done on purpose?

> > > > > 3 good solod quality

> > > > Over to you Mr Kenewell <G>

> > > > MS

> > > > > Karl

by **Kieran Larki** » Sat, 06 May 2000 04:00:00

The Guillemot is a good wheel

by **Simon Brow** » Sun, 07 May 2000 04:00:00

Ok, and don't shoot me, this is my honest opinion, and I do actually own
this wheel (it's sat gathering dust in my cupboard).
Firstly, the software. You can't set the sensitivity of individual axis.
Also you can't make profiles, so you have to change the settings yourself
for individual games.
The hats and the buttons on the face of the wheel are badly placed and
difficult to reach. Also the hats are a gimmick. It would have been
preferable to have 4 or 6 quality buttons. The F1-style shifters are very
flimsy, and wobble about. They have to me moved along way to activate.
Also i've heard they break within a month of use.
The stick shifter is too far from the wheel, and sort of round a corner,
which makes it hard to use. Also the shifter is very stiff.
The clamping mechanism is really awful. It's a copy from the MS wheel, but
a poor copy. It's just really difficult to detach from the desk quickly.
The pedals are very light and cheap. The tops of the pedals pivot for some
bizarre reason, which makes them difficult to use precisely (i had to modify
mine). The pedals have virtually no resistance.
Finally, at full lock either way, the thumb rests can snag your thumbs and
the wheel can become uncomfortable after prolonged use.

As for the MS wheel, the driver bug was introduced with the new version 4 of
the sidewinder software which ships only with the USB version of the wheel.
This slow-down was replicated on a PC World machine when I took the wheel in
to be tested and also several other people on this NG had the same problem
(search back a few days for my posts about it).

Simon :)

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Sun, 07 May 2000 04:00:00

I'm convinced there must be different versions of this wheel, and you have a
very early one.

Not on mine they don't.

See above. They only need a fairly slight movement to change gear on mine,
which is great for quick shifting.

Apparently some people with very early wheels had this problem. Pedals were
redesigned and problems disappeared.

Don't see the 'MS copy' thing at all. The clamp is not great for quick
removal, but the MS wheel is streets ahead of all others in this respect.

They pivot (like other wheel types, e.g. SC&T) to suit different chair
heights, foot-to-pedal angles, etc. My pedals have just the right amount of
resistance and provide perfect sensitivity.

The Guillemot is the 3rd wheel I've owned and certainly the best.

I have never found this, and don't see how the snagging could physically
happen to be honest. After many hours of use in one session, I still find
the wheel the most comfortable I've ever used.

Iain

by **Karl Zose** » Sun, 07 May 2000 04:00:00

Can you tell me how I can be sure I get a recent version of the wheel?
What are the visual differences between the ealry and later versions??

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BEST USB wheel for GPL??

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